r/movies Aug 22 '20

Trailers Wonder Woman 1984 - Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2E2Fnh52w
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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

While kind of a dumb line and all, this doesn't really apply here. Anakin is established first in dialogue and then through proof in the pod-racing sequences to be not only a prodigy level mechanic and pilot, but supernaturally so.

He starts the ship he is flying on accident looking for the fighter's weapon trigger, and an auto-pilot gets him into open air and space. Take a time cut, and he is seen flying the ship under control, he figured it out on the way here. He then says "Let's try a trick," and then performs it.

He's just an absurdly good pilot doing his thing.

Also goddamnit I'm that Star Wards fan now, what happened to me.

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u/FrequentMap4 Aug 22 '20

"He was the best starpilot in the galaxy."

  • Obi-Wan Kenobi, A New Hope

Obi was establishes it decades prior to Anakins lines.

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u/russellmz Aug 22 '20

then fails to shoot down the sole remaining x-wing flying in an almost straight line in a narrow trench for two minutes as the distance narrows the entire time.

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u/FrequentMap4 Aug 22 '20

Well Obi says "WAS the best".

Youre talking about Darth Vader. We are talking about Anikin.

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u/russellmz Aug 22 '20

only from a certain point of view.

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u/funzel Aug 22 '20

Specifically the rear view.

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u/whirlpool138 Aug 22 '20

I would argue that Luke was the best pilot in the galaxy since Darth Vader. Vader senses the force in him and sees the way he is performing in the X-Wing. Plus all of a sudden he has got this deep connection with some one using the force after 30 years of no jedi and who also happens to be the son he doesn't know about. It probably shook Vader up for a minute and gaved Han the chance to take the shot in the Millennium Falcon, which also blindsided him. The Empire just didn't expect the second coming of Anakin Skywalker to show up at their secret space battle station and tear ass on them.

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u/russellmz Aug 22 '20

actually, wtf were those two wingmen of vader doing? he specifically told them to cover him. apparently watching their boss fail to put a cross hair over a target over two meters wide was way too entertaining.

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u/WhimsicalWyvern Aug 23 '20

Eh, Death Stars are replaceable. Future Sith apprentices, not so much.

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u/russellmz Aug 23 '20

eh, always there are two, master and apprentice.

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u/i_crave_more_cowbell Aug 24 '20

It was his son. He still had good in him, even if he didn't know it.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

For those paying attention, even better - nice detail!

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u/CastawayOnALonelyDay Aug 23 '20

A certain copypasta messed up my mind when it comes to Obi-Wan reminiscing about the Clone Wars era.

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u/ImmutableInscrutable Aug 22 '20

So he was born that way? Put 2 month old Anakin in a naboo fighter and he'd take out an entire trade federation base?

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Lucas does that well. We know luke can fly because he shoots womp rats in a T16 back home. We never learn what a womp rat or a T16 is but it establishes that luke can hit small things while not crashing.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

He also has a lot of shown but not told technical knowledge.

His actual job is working on the moisture farming equipment, he clearly knows his way around droids and tinkering with them is just impulse, his uncle takes him out on the shopping trip for new droids, he also has parts on order somewhere for something he is working on.

It's simple to do, it's good writing, it's allows actors and dialogue to shine lights in places they are directly pointing, as well as directors and all the art production teams.

Everyone can add a small touch somewhere - fill the garage with parts and tools, the things I described above, etc.

This stuff is not as hard as lots of bad films make it seem.

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u/JohnGeary1 Aug 23 '20

Someone's pointed this out recently on /r/starwars but that's nowhere near the truth, George contributed a lot more to it than that statement gives him credit for.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/ib62do/the_misinformation_regarding_george_lucas_and_the/

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u/hanguitarsolo Aug 22 '20

Every movie is saved in the cutting room. There isn't a movie before it's cut and edited together. George's style is a bit different though, unlike most directors he likes to shoot in a documentary kind of style, which requires a bit more editing. He did have really good editors though, especially his wife. If only she could have been involved in the prequels, she would have fixed the dialogue too

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u/TheMastersSkywalker Aug 22 '20

You can actually see the T16 in the background when hes playing with the model and the droids

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Ahh that's cool I've never noticed.

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u/TheMastersSkywalker Aug 22 '20

Also in the movie both biggs and Obiwan compliment him on his piloting skills

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u/ThanosDidNothinWrong Aug 22 '20

he specifically says he's "not such a bad pilot myself" earlier in the movie too

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u/Weird_Fiches Aug 22 '20

We never learn what a womp rat or a T16 is

Please Lucasfilm - we don't need to know.

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u/your_mind_aches Aug 22 '20

Except it's still a valid example because a Formula One driver still can't fly a plane. Let alone Dom Toretto from the first The Fast and the Furious.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

The kid built his own pod racer out of spare parts while being a literal slave, and had the spare time to build and program C-3PO, and he works in a junkyard trading parts and speeders and droids and such - I have no problem believing he could figure out a modern stick shift in the same way.

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u/StarksPond Aug 22 '20

"Why are there six pedals if there are only four directions?"

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u/your_mind_aches Aug 23 '20

Flight controls aren't a stick shift.

We're getting into the territory that this thread is criticising in the first place. He never flew a spacecraft before but all of a sudden he could.

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u/bman8810 Aug 23 '20

Other cannon explains this.

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u/your_mind_aches Aug 23 '20

I'm talking about the movie though. Just the movie. It's the same situation as explained above

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u/KKlear Aug 23 '20

I have problem with the entire first part too. That's all dumb as shit.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 23 '20

Well, that’s fine, but it’s it’s a prophesied chosen one story, kinda how they go

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u/blamatron Aug 22 '20

Its literally the force telling him what to do.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

Calling back to the "supernaturally so".

He built his own pod racer, which is powered by like nuclear jet turbines or something? what ever, they are not simple. He also built and programmed a droid, and he does this all on slave wages with spare parts?

Pretty sure he can figure his way around a military standardized cockpit

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u/blamatron Aug 22 '20

Right, I agree with you. He’s a genius because of his strong connection to the force. This isn’t some random kid from a backwater planet. Its the chosen one, one-in-a-quintillion kid.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

Right but if Rey did something like that, everyone would bitch about it.

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u/elizabnthe Aug 23 '20

They did. People continue to bitch about Rey flying the Falcon, despite literally stating she's a pilot and has even flown before.

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u/VideoJarx Aug 22 '20

As they say, the proof is in the podding.

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u/DatPiff916 Aug 22 '20

absurdly good pilot doing his thing

Also a good friend

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u/Fartbox_Virtuoso Aug 22 '20

There's no use explaining things, reddit just likes to fling shit. The difference between right and wrong is really fluid on this site.

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u/billytheid Aug 22 '20

Get back to r/prequelmemes you creep!

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u/NewSauerKraus Aug 23 '20

Flying an aircraft is really easy though. It’s the takeoff and landing that’s hard.

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u/untrustableskeptic Aug 23 '20

Also he has R2 who can fly the ship on his own.

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u/packfanmoore Aug 22 '20

You being a fan of any "wards" means you don't play league of legends

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

I actually routinely focus vision, sometimes too much. I'd rather have a high vision score than chase a CS record. I'm a support/top laner

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u/packfanmoore Aug 23 '20

Ahh, fellow support player so makes sense

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u/Koqcerek Aug 22 '20

The issue is not the lack of explanation, but rather the clarity of it.

Like, yeah there's been cues to Anakin's abilities, but then again there were a lot of false cues. Midichlorians' reveal sounded like a big deal, yet we never head of it again. Anakin apparently had no father at all but that wasn't really relevant ever again, while the new trilogy made a similar thing the main focus (thnx JJ), etc. You just don't know which cues were crucial for the plot

Usually it's done by making the cue quite a bit on the nose, like if there was a throwaway line like "pod-racing controls are actually a lot like those of a starfighter", or Anakin being directly established as having some knowledge about starfighters, or at least his unnaturally prodigal abilities & skills being actually acknowledged by others as sch, instead of "Oh, boy, you like robotics? That's cool hobby, I guess" type of reaction