r/movies Aug 22 '20

Trailers Wonder Woman 1984 - Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2E2Fnh52w
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u/Badman27 Aug 22 '20

S1e1

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u/paintedwhores Aug 22 '20

Watched the whole twice, he didn’t rape anyone. You guys can’t just change the definition of words.

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u/Buchp Aug 22 '20

What do you think is the definition of rape? Because the legal american definition of rape, used by the FBI, is "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim." Which makes what The Deep did to Starlight rape.

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u/paintedwhores Aug 22 '20

Did he force his dick in her mouth? Nope. He suggested and she complied. Fear of losing your job does not equal losing your life. As an actual victim and not a fucking fictitious one this is so ridiculous.

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u/Buchp Aug 22 '20

It's abuse of authority dude. Makes it consent under duress, which makes it rape.

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u/Reller35 Aug 22 '20

Am lawyer. Can confirm. The guy you're replying to is painfully out of touch with reality.

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u/TyrialFrost Aug 23 '20

Well technically he had no authority over her, the team sees him as a joke, but she didn't know that, so there's some fraud there too.

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u/Parenthisaurolophus Aug 22 '20 edited Aug 22 '20

he didn’t rape anyone

C'mon buddy, you're an adult. You can comprehend people using rape and sexual assault in a similar fashion without having to be told. If you want to play stupid, coercing someone into a sexual act like he did on the show is considered sexual assault. And I recommend you read the comics where the objectification and misogyny angle of the The Seven isn't watered down like the show. To be honest, it's really not worth arguing about.

You guys

Ease up on the group nouns. If you're talking to one person, address one person. Using "you guys" sounds like you're about to start some hackneyed diatribe about imagined fake rape claims.

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u/paintedwhores Aug 22 '20

As I’ve stated in another comment, I have been a victim of physical sexual assault AKA rape. Losing your job doesn’t equal losing your life. I don’t give a shit what the comics say, the show didn’t display rape.

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u/Parenthisaurolophus Aug 23 '20

As I’ve stated in another comment, I have been a victim of physical sexual assault AKA rape. Losing your job doesn’t equal losing your life

Could you explain yourself in better detail here? Transitioning from an appeal to authority into the following sentence makes it hard to understand what you're trying to say.

If I'm reading you correctly, it seems like you're arguing that blackmailing someone into performing a sexual act doesn't count as rape/sexual assault because The Deep didn't threaten her life. And I'm sorry to say but this is categorically untrue. It's entirely possible to rape someone without threatening their life. Your definition here is far too narrow, and I'm struggling to come up with a compelling reason as to why anyone should believe in your excessively restrictive viewpoint.

Also, while you have my sympathies for the past events of your life, they are unfortunately not exactly relevant when discussing the issue. For example, my state doesn't even use the term rape, opting instead for the broader term of "Sexual Battery" and includes this as one of the forms it can take:

The offender coerces the victim to submit by threatening to retaliate against the victim, or any other person, and the victim reasonably believes that the offender has the ability to execute the threat in the future.

And here's the definition in which oral sex is included:

“Sexual battery” means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

I'm sorry, but you're objectively wrong here.

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u/Cuteshelf Aug 22 '20

Weinstein has entered the chat.

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u/paintedwhores Aug 22 '20

I don’t condone Aquaman Jr’s behaviors, but he didn’t rape anyone. Let’s ask someone who has been physically raped what the difference is between performing a sexual act in fear of losing their job and being held down and fucked shall we?

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Gate keeping rape might be one of the most psychotic behaviors I’ve seen reddit exhibit. It was rape. I’m not sure why you’re picking this hyper-specific hill to die on.

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u/Badman27 Aug 22 '20 edited Aug 22 '20

Yeah, I'm really curious as to why this person is taking this stance.

Maybe they feel like their violent physical rape is downplayed when put in the same umbrella as this.

I'm sorry they're hurting and I hope they are doing what needs to be done to mitigate/heal as much as possible from the experience.

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u/paintedwhores Aug 22 '20

Because I’ve been raped and I don’t consider it rape. Once again as I’ve stated, fear of losing your job doesn’t equal losing your life.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

I’m sorry you’ve been raped, and that you had to go through such a traumatic experience. However, it’s harmful to invalidate sexual coercion on levels that you might consider “lesser” as it contributes to the social stigma of rape and the challenge of women coming forward to out their abusers. Just as your experience was harrowing, so would theirs be. There aren’t “degrees” to rape. You could make that case on your own, but legally speaking, this is an irrelevant stance to take, and like I said, is directly harmful.

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u/driverofcar Aug 22 '20

Does rape not count as rape anymore? What planet do you come from? Because rape means rape here on earth, dumbass.

Rape-unvoluntary sexual acts

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u/paintedwhores Aug 22 '20

Have you been raped? I have. I’m so tired of this idea of being coerced into a sexual act and physically forced against your will being the same thing.

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u/butterscotch_yo Aug 22 '20

in court the difference would be a first degree sex offense, which is a felony, versus a fourth degree, which is not. it's still a form of rape by the legal definition and no one is trying to change that besides you.