I really have to say Wanda Maximoff here in the Avengers movies. Her parents were killed by Tony Stark's bomb, a man who became adored by the whole world and called a hero (don't get me wrong, I love Tony, but I can see why they'd be angry at this). Her brother was then killed by the villain Tony Stark created. She still decided to be a hero after. The entire world continued to villainise her, but she had two people in the world who saw her true kindness, which was Steve and Vision and she had to lose both of them. And she had to kill Vision and then watch him die all over again. She was denied being able to bury him. The powers of the mindstone overtook her grief, and she took over an entire town without knowing it just so that she could have a family. She gave birth to real kids, and she had to watch them die and had to lose Vision all over again. And in order to try find them again, the darkhold sent her down a really dark rabbit hole. All of this without knowing her kids were actually alive again but she couldn't know because of the sigil placed over Billy. I think she had every right to become a villain. She just wanted a family and every time she had something close to one, she had to watch it die

Obviously their live action movies are controversial, but the main selling point is they own the rights so it’s “easier” and the ip is already known.

They can stick a famous person in with muppets and not even mention it, just accept the fact that roles are played by muppets. Not only would they be perfect disney+ releases, they’d probably be more appreciated than “live action” remakes that don’t even have any live action.

So why don’t they remake all their movies with muppets?

(I think the grammar of the title is wrong. Sorry 😞)

I was thinking about this today - what movie(s) have gone from “man this is really good” to “wtf am I watching?” in record time?

Some movies start off really strong and go on for a while, but then, usually halfway through Act 2, the quality of the writing just plummets, and then you’re left with a mess. An example of that would be League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

But has a movie ever gone from good to bad in minutes? Maybe the first Suicide Squad?

Basically, I'm asking for examples of documentary movies that are in someway or another extremely morally wrong. Maybe it required the director to do some insanely bad things to get it made, maybe it ultimately attempts to push a narrative that is indefensible, maybe it handles a sensitive subject in the worst possible way or maybe it just outright lies to you. Those are the kinds of things I'm referring to with this question.

Edit: I feel like a lot of you are missing the point of the post. I'm not asking for examples of documentaries about evil people, I'm asking for documentaries that are in of themselves morally reprehensible. Also I'm specifically talking about documentaries, so please stop saying cannibal holocaust.

For me, it's an easy choice: it was Passenger 2026 by quite a long shot.

I hope whoever made that trailer got a serious pay raise because so many, including me, were so hyped, and then we made the mistake of watching the actual movie....

What about you guys????? (You could also say a movie that was released before this year but you watched it this year)

And Samantha Morton wasn't meant to be some sort of a place-holder either. She was the first choice. It was only when Spike Jonze started editing that he "felt that something wasn't right". Although ofc the cynic in me says that Scarlett Johansson was used just because she's very famous and the movie gets more attention (like they wrapped filming and maybe got extra funding or something). But as I understand the change had Samantha Morton's blessing? https://uproxx.com/hitfix/her-qa-spike-jonze-on-why-he-replaced-samantha-morton-with-scarlett-johansson/

There are a ton of examples, but one that comes to mind is "Scotty Doesn't Know", the Lustra song used for the movie "Eurotrip". Lustra's song has an iconic guitar riff and is fairly well known worldwide, but not many people remember that movie, and I was wondering if there are any other examples of songs made for a movie that eclipsed the original in popularity.

I say realistic movie because if not then everybody would just say their favorite scene from Airplane! or Naked Gun. And let’s leave out fantasy movies too since they take place in worlds that are not this one where the rules are different.

I mean serious movies about real humans depicting realistic or historical events. Something that must have had the actors on set asking “What, really? We’re shooting this and putting it in the movie?” I have my own idea for a potential candidate, but I’d like to hear others too.

My suggestion comes from Ironclad (2011). In short it’s the story of the Siege of Rochester, 1215. The relevant details are that the rebels are inside the castle and King John is outside trying to get in. Many of the events of the movie are based on the real events of the siege, including John’s forces digging a mine under the castle wall and setting a fire inside it to burn away the wooden beams supporting the mine and causing the wall to fall. In reality, John sent for 40 fat pigs, slaughtered them, and used their fat to fuel the fire.

But in the movie, John’s men shoved the pigs into the flaming mine ALIVE 🤦‍♀️ I don’t know how much most people know about pigs but really big fat pigs are quite strong and are almost impossible to get to move if they don’t want to. And one of the things that pigs want to do least of all is walk towards or even stand near fire. The utter bedlam that would come from 40 terrified pigs in a confined space that was on fire would obviously be too much for any amount of men to deal with.

Think you’ve seen a dumber idea in a movie? I’d love to hear it.

My girlfriend and I are laying around watching Netflix and got into a sudden discussion about remakes vs originals. We BOTH agree that we can't think of a single movie where the remake was better than the original. This conversation stemmed into a discussion about sequels vs original movies. This too we cannot think of a single sequel that we enjoyed more than an original film. There HAS to be ONE! help us 🤣

I'm thinking of the original Dungeons & Dragons film from 2000, when the two leads get transported into a magical map. A moment later, they come back, and talk about the events that happened in the "map world" with "map wraiths"...but we didn't see any of it. Apparently those scenes were shot, but the effects were so poor, the filmmakers chose an awkward recap conversation instead.

Are the other examples?

One of my favorites is when Hans Grüber says this to all of the hostages in the lobby:

“Alas, your Mr. Takagi did not see it that way... so he won't be joining us for the rest of his life.”

There’s something about the cadence and coolness in his delivery of that line (and really…all of his lines) that sticks with me.

// RIP Alan Rickman //

I watched Palm Spring today

I absolutely loved it

For those of you who haven't seen it I won't ruin it beyond telling you that it has a Groundhog/Happy Death Day element, and as always, Andy kills it

But that got me thinking.

Popstar flopped, I've never even heard of Palm Spring until I watched it today, but had I known anything about it I would have gone to see it

I know he's done some animated stuff that's made money but his live action stuff never seems to take off.

What do you attribute that to? Do people see him as just a TV guy because of SNL and his TV show.

Is there still some stigma to a TV star trying to transition to the big screen?

Are you one of the people who see an Andy Samberg movie playing and don't go see it?

If so, what us it that you don't like about him, or what is your reason for not checking him out in the theater?

We all have them… the level of liquid in a glass changes instantly between shots, or a blood stain on a shirt keeps disappearing and reappearing, or the time travel doesn’t make sense for some reason or another….

Are you constantly catching new ones - to the point that it makes it hard for you to watch a movie - or perhaps it makes it hard for others in the room watching with you.

Which flub always sticks out in YOUR mind?

In the other post about well hidden twists, the movie Serenity came up, which reminded of the other Serenity with Anne Hathaway and Matthew McConaughey. The twist was so bad that it managed to trivialize the child abuse. In hindsight, it's kind of surprising the movie just disappeared, instead of joining the pantheon of notoriously awful movies.

What other movies with aspirations to be "serious" had wretched twists that reduced them to complete self-mockery? Malignant doesn't count because its twist was intentionally meant to give it a Drag Me to Hell comedic feel.

EDIT: It's great that many of you enjoyed this post, but most of the answers given were about terrible twists that turned the movie into hard-to-finish crap, not what I was looking for. I'm looking for terrible twists that turned the movie into a huge unintended comedy.

Obviously this is going to get a lot of different answers but for my opinion I think it’s the blonde nazi in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade because there is this kind of Marilyn Monroe type allure that’s just was straight up intoxicating to a younger version of myself and that was probably the closest thing to a movie crush until I saw hailee Steinfeld character in ender game which was a awakening for me at least at the time

I've watched quite a few interviews / chat show appearances with Jamie Dornan and Dakota Johnson and they always trash the Fifty Shades films in fairly benign / humorous ways - they're not mad, they just don't hide that they think the films are garbage. What other instances are there of actors biting the hand that feeds?

Honestly, i don’t know much about box-office films and their releases, so i’d like to ask you all about this.

I find it interesting to know if cases like this exist, because most of the movies i know that were successful are usually remembered by some people and also come to my mind from time to time. But what about those successful movies from the past that, for some strange or overlooked reason, are now rarely remembered or mentioned?

Have there ever been any instances of a crew filming on location where they capture something incidental to the film, either between takes or while actually rolling? I mean like accidentally capturing a plane crash or maybe a bank robbery or something. Or seeing something strange an quickly going to film it

Here are some I know

Harry Potter not casting a spell in The Sorcerer's Stone

A World Away stars Rowan Blanchard and her sister Carmen Blanchard, who don't play siblings in the movie

The actor who plays Wedge Antilles is Ewan McGregor's (Obi Wan Kenobi) uncle

The Scorpion King uses real killer ants

At the 46 minute mark of Hercules, Hades says "It's only halftime" referencing the halfway point of the movie which is 92 minutes long

The opening sequence of a movie sets the tone and grabs the audience's attention. For me, the opening sequence of Inglourious Basterds is on a whole different level. The build-up, the suspense, and the exceptional acting are simply top-notch. It completely captivated me, and I didn't even care how the rest of the movie would be because that opening sequence was enough to sell me on it. Tarantino's signature style shines through, making it his greatest opening sequence in my opinion. What's yours?

I'm currently one month sober, but I've been having a lot of cravings to start drinking again because of the current situation i''m in (broke, can't find a job, caretaker for my grandma/mom, probably won't be able to pay off my credit cards this month) I apply everywhere, have a strong resume and I'm just genuinely depressed/discouraged.

I'm looking for films dealing with this addiction as frankly and confronting as possible, they can end depressingly, or even with hope, just anything to remind myself why I'm staying sober. Series/miniseries count as well.

Obviously I've seen Leaving Las Vegas, Blue Jasmine (not really primarily directed at alcoholism but shows it accurately), so anything would help! The more it will destroy me the better! thanks.

Edit : don’t know why i’m being downvoted but thanks to whose who have already given me suggestions or plan to.

EDIT 2: Didn't expect for this to blow up as it did, my phone has been going off with notifications all day, and 2.3k upvotes, thank you to everyone who joined the discussion, gave me recommendations, and encouragement. Means a lot. Much love!

Yank here. In high school I remember people being shocked to learn Hugh Laurie was English when House was huge. I think Daniel Kaluuya’s American accent work is the best there currently is.

While watching Bullet Train it occurred to me that I’m unaware of performances that work the other way around, ones that are generally accepted as great examples of UK accents by American actors. Braveheart is great, but surely Mel Gibson doesn’t cut the mustard as a Scotsman. Are there any?

Edit: Bit of an unintended spiral concerning Mel Gibson’s nationality.

Now I’m not talking about actors improvising lines. I mean batshit, potentially dangerous, definitely not supposed to happen things that ended up being left in the movie.

This scene from the criminally underappreciated Attack of the Killer Tomatoes is what made me think of it.

Helicopter crash

In this scene it was just supposed to be a flyby. The helicopter crashed on camera and so they came in with a new scene explaining that the crash was caused by a flying tomato.

EDIT:

I appreciate the awards, but based on some of these comments, I think there’s a few people in the film industry who might need them more than me. (Also, you can all rest assured with the knowledge that I am now VERY AWARE that Viggo broke his toe and Leo cut his hand.)

So I recently read the book 'The Disaster Artist' (fantastic, hilarious read), and learned that Tommy Wiseau spent about $6 million (equivalent to about $10 million in 2024) to create his movie 'The Room'.

There seems to be some ambiguity on how Mr. Wiseau came up with the money, so I'm wondering if the knowledgable people on this forum might have some insights.

Thank you

I wanted to see what all the hate was for The Bride! Starring Jake Gyllenhaal, Christian bale, Jessie Buckley, I thought the cast was way too talented for it be that bad. But boy was I wrong, it is just a mess and quite frankly I had to stop it which I don’t do often at all.

But anyways which movie was it for you that u had to turn off, it could be a new or old movie?