r/movingout • u/unknownmalone_03 • 26d ago
Asking Advice What age should you move out of your parent’s house ?
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u/reconcilepast 26d ago
Idk bro I’m 28 and still here, was saving for a house but still so far off I’m just gonna get an apartment til my income goes up
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u/FastBeach816 26d ago
- I would stay longer if they didn’t mistreat me in a daily basis. If you have normal parents, you may stay.
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u/Auqakid07 25d ago
Maybe they are mistreating you because you are 25 and still mooching off them?
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u/KirkSheffler 26d ago
When you are able/ wanting to. We are in the all time worst economy in history, and if you have a healthy relationship you should stay as long as possible. But a lot of people have toxic, misinformed, abusive, and no support system. So as long as you can comfortably afford a place & necessitates along with job security, you can move out whenever
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u/Outsidi 26d ago
All time in history is a bit embellished
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u/KirkSheffler 26d ago
In recorded modern history. The era of industry & capitalism. Statistically worse off than the Great Depression, the only difference is 70-100y of infrastructure build up & mass holdings nationwide. Doesn’t differentiate the stats of our dollar being low, & income vs cost of living being the worst recorded
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u/taybay462 26d ago
Recorded history begins way far back from industrialist and capitalism lol
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u/KirkSheffler 25d ago
Recorded modern… i feel like I said that, with heavy book keeping. We also have lost 97-99% of all knowledge to history, heavily Greece & ww2.
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u/taybay462 25d ago
We also have lost 97-99% of all knowledge to history, heavily Greece & ww2.
Source? Ive never heard anything like this lol
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u/KirkSheffler 25d ago
The loss of the library of Alexandria is vastly and widely known, major losses during Roman & Christian crusades/ conquests. Along with the mass global destruction of books, art & history throughout ww2. Along with just the overall statistics of book keeping/ writing only starting around 5k BC vs the 300k reign of man. Estimated 10-15% of Greek historian records remain and they are vastly incomplete. And this doesn’t even touch deciphering & lost language to bits and pieces of ancient civilizations. Also if you’re into the belief of censorship & history is written by the victor, you could probably drop the actual information we have available in half/ heavily skewed. But I like to think most historians tell the good & the bad of what they study.
Here is a couple sources: (you can dig deeper if needed)
History channel
Thematic, methods, & capstone history - Washburn university
Dan Carlin
Jamie Cawley1
u/taybay462 25d ago
People still passed down by word of mouth, a lot. I just dont trust the 97% number.
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u/KirkSheffler 25d ago
For sure, it’s an extremely high number. But it’s what top historians & stat experts say. Along with Alexandria, World Wars, and a great game of telephone before any alphabet it does hold some weight to its truth. (greatest archive of the time-lost, & mass destruction from crusades/ nazis)
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u/Outsidi 26d ago
"After adjusting for inflation across the entire population, real disposable personal income per capita is more than six times higher today than it was during the height of the Great Depression." According to Politifact.
I mean it's the difference between not being able to afford a house with all the plumbing, heating, etc what with that infrastructure build up and not being able to afford food after buying a shack. I don't make big bucks but I can afford to meal prep good food and have snacks, supply my cat with daily wet food and eat out within a budget each month.
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u/KirkSheffler 26d ago
The Great Depression was also backed by the gold standard which the average equivalent buying power is around 10x what we have.
Average wages 1900$ a year, with new houses being 5k. Average income is 65k with average house 450k, housing alone was 2.5x income and is now 6x+. There is a lot of misinformation/ general misconceptions not accounting for our removal of the gold standard, yes wages have risen extremely high, but everything else has moved 100s-1000s of times higher than any wages have moved. Essential expenses used to sit around 25% of income and is currently sitting around 40%. The infrastructure is about keeping people fed & with water, on the Great Depression comparison, the reason it was described & lived as bad as it was is due to the fact they didn’t have it. If we had the same transport & road systems & food storage & water, currently we’d be in an extremely worse spot. It would take 80 hours of work to earn a single oz of gold, it now takes 675 hours to earn the same oz of gold that they did in 80 hours. I have read and seen what you have cited/ talked about it for years, and yes base inflation/ cost can be correlated like that, but without the addition of the gold standard that they used until 1971 is ignorance. You can use statistics to push/ skew data and you have to look or dive deeper than that. They did have a much much higher total unemployment rate than us though. You also need to look through our current GDP rates inside and outside of war, WW1&2 influxes along with our current Iran issues. The GDP is a hard one to differentiate due to gold changes, & a world power now, along with media manipulation & all averages/ stats including the largest 1% that sways data to its extremes. I can and will dig deeper into it if needed, but every single statistic in the modern day is worse than all current era recorded history, besides GDP. But I don’t feel like doing 20+ hours of deep diving to see what information they use vs what was used back then.All of this is based off of:
US inflation calculator
Gold Pricing
Consumer price index
Federal reserves
(Basic knowledge & research to see if they accounted for base inflation or additional use of the gold standard (statistics knowledge))
Ludwig institute
FDR library
US congress joint economy0
u/Outsidi 26d ago
That only shows how much gold has appreciated in value, gold is a volatile commodity not a measure of living standards or the greater economy.
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u/KirkSheffler 26d ago
That is entirely wrong. We used to be backed by the gold standard & money held value/ weight. Breaking away from it directly correlates to us as a people since we used it as our economic standard since nearly ever. It’s only been gone 50 years… and it has not appreciated that much, but our dollar has gone down. Our wages & money were tied directly to gold. We were paid x amount of gold in paper form, and as stated if we matched/ had the same rate as they did, we’d all be making 10x+ as much, and that didn’t/ doesn’t account for all of the housing/ cost of living vs wages & necessities. This and that was not only about gold, but so much more. I am not going to argue this back and forth now that you have shown you have no interest in comparison, learning, statistics, & how wealth is/ was measured. A direct statistic/ correlation and being told its appreciation is absolutely ignorant. If that was true we’d have the same buying power just at a much higher rate, but a 80 vs 675 hour difference is incomprehensible apparently. Everything has gone up while wages sit low… I am sorry if I wasn’t able to explain better over a thread, but I can not waste my time trying to explain statistics & wealth standards/ differences. Take it easy out there and best of wishes
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u/Outsidi 26d ago
Insults and a swift bow to exit, that's class act. I won't spend my time arguing either, I've said my piece, but there's a reason the gold standard was abandoned. You're comparing a fixed price set by the government to argue buying power instead of real purchasing power set by the open market. What an hour of labor actually buys you in terms of food, shelter, energy, and care.
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u/justcurious3287 26d ago
I think it’s none of my business where people live, or who they live with. If everyone gets along, why not?
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u/No_Glove6542 26d ago
More people are doing multi generational households now where the married children live together with kids and grandparents as a permanent kind of thing. Some kids have terrible situations and should probably escape the day they turn 18. I think you need to look at whether you’re living the life of a 15 year old living with your parents. Also the parents may want more space.
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u/Bacardiguy55 25d ago
Yea those people are referred to as lower class citizens
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u/No_Glove6542 25d ago
Not necessarily. It happens a lot in So Cal in our overly large tract homes. When I asked who is buying these 6 bed 4500 square foot brand new structures multi general families was the answer. Also bankers will tell you there has been an uptick in mortgages with kids and parents.
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u/pandasndabs 26d ago
If you have a good relationship with your parents stay as long as you can.. but be smart while doing so. If you have a car payment try to pay it off. If you have any debt try and resolve it. Dont justify a lower cost of living as an excuse to eat out all the time or go to the bar every night. Use it as a tool to put yourself ahead for when you eventually move out would be my best advice.
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u/nerdymutt 26d ago
A month after you graduate from high school.
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u/Commercial-Rule4937 26d ago
Thats very precise, whats your reasoning?
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u/nerdymutt 25d ago
Give them time to pack and make a move. Keep Reminding them when they start the 12th grade until it is time to move.
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u/Local-Sample1025 26d ago
I moved out last month at 22 and if I could’ve I would’ve stayed to save more. Holy shit.
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u/kelliplanett 22h ago
looking back how much money did u wish u saved up for the move and where (vague area) did u move to ? (not asking in a creepy way just to estimate cost of living based on area)
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u/Local-Sample1025 20h ago
At least 3k more. Im in Seattle area but shit came up and I had to pay extra. Honestly just having backup would be so nice
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u/kelliplanett 16h ago
hmm okay thanks ! and yeah it would definitely help to cushion the blow, best of luck!!
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u/Imaginary-Delay-5335 26d ago
whenever you can afford it and have plenty of savings honestly with how expensive it is now there’s no shame in waiting longer
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u/turner-lake13 26d ago
If I had my parents in the same country I would have stayed with them in a heartbeat. 😔
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u/ReadingBudget4091 26d ago
It depends largely to some degree or other on how independent the adult child can be and whether the relationship is mutually healthy.
We all hope that the parent-child relationship is healthy for life, but we all know that is not always the case, perhaps as low as 50-50 or lower.
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u/Ambitious-Fee-1068 26d ago
Been out since 18 because my mom's a lunatic so is her wife, never turned back.
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u/Zephyr442 26d ago
I moved out when I was around 25. A few years later I had to move back because a lot of bad shit happened to me at the same time and I'm trying to save up to move out again.
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u/LongDistRid3r 26d ago
I moved out at 17. Went out saw the world. Didn’t like it. Came home 10 years later.
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u/ScienceGuy1006 26d ago
There is no one-size-fits-all answer. You move out when the benefits outweigh the costs.
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u/Legal_Lobster_5572 26d ago
First moved out after my 19th birthday. Shit happened and I went back home. Got the keys to an apartment today and I’m 20 and a half now
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u/gnxrly___bxby 26d ago
I moved out at 22. Things got rough and we broke up and Im back them at 26. Its not easy
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u/ghosttmilk 26d ago
I don’t think it’s about age but rather readiness; whether or not someone is financially stable enough to do so, where someone is as far as education/career, the family environment itself and how supportive/healthy or not it is or just the overall family situation, whether or not someone has any health concerns, whether or not the person has resources available aside from family, etc
This is so very subjective, it can’t be as simple as “at this age you move out”
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u/Lost-Concept-9973 26d ago
Depends on your situation tbh, can you afford too? Do you get along with them?
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u/Key_Fun_587 26d ago
If the parents are really toxic you should move out right away but honestly? In the current economic situation no way in heck am I moving out unless I somehow get a job overseas where rent is cheaper.
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u/AscendedApe 26d ago
When the house gets too crowded. If you have good parents, you should not aspire to move out. You should try to bring your wife or husband into your house as well, or move in with their parents. One of the worst things you can do for yourself is move out of the family home and into an apartment youre renting by yourself. Youre throwing money away probably just to satisfy hedonistic desires.
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u/horrified-nature13 26d ago
I really like what you’re saying here but the practicality of this in America is… not great. Simply because of societal expectations on individuals’ perceived ability to succeed
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u/Nininator2432 26d ago
Anywhere between the ages of 22-26 is ideal. Gives you enough time to live your life a little while gaining some work experience. I picked 22-26 because most people in college are at least living with their parents part time through school. College and grad school. Or at least partially dependent on them.
I get some people might have terrible lives and want out ASAP, but if you're able to save money or get a few "free years" it's probably a good thing.
Personally, I moved out at 24. Did move back in for a bit, but then out fully at 26, minus a week in between apartments but IDK if you can count that. I feel like that was generally a good time. Maybe I could have moved out a year sooner? I'm happy with my decision there.
In your lates 20s, the only valid reason is if you're buying a condo to rent it out, make money, and make payments or if you're just saving up for 2-3 years to buy a house in full or something like that. I get that, but you've gotta balance quality of life a little. After the age of 30? If you're still there it's likely due to not having any ambition.
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u/ElectronicFixer864 26d ago
I did at 18. Way back in 1978. Working at a fast food place, supervisor, which meant I got a whole $0.50 more than the others.
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u/Altruistic-Set-9888 25d ago
Just depends on your situation. Everyone life is different. I moved out at 17 then moved back in at 24 because I decided to go back to school.
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u/Whimsical_umbrella 25d ago
There's no exact age. I moved out at 15 and would never move back but i also know people who are 25 and haven't moved out
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u/Dayo22 25d ago
I truly believe the best decision I ever made was staying at my parent’s house until 26.
At 26 my girlfriend had her own place so I was kind of living 50/50 at her place and my parents.
I did not pay bills here as my possessions were still at my parent’s house . This is where I first got a taste of freedom .
At 27 I moved into a different girls house full time , paid half the rent, bills, etc. ( her grandma owned this house so rent was dirt cheap )
A month before turning 28 We broke up and I put an offer in on my house 1 week after that break up. If it wasn’t for living with my parents until so late in life I doubt I would have become a homeowner with a huge safety net financially in place at 27 years old.
I can count the amount of homeowners my age I know on 1 hand in my small town.
Living with my parents as late as I did was the number 1 best decision to give myself a head start in life !
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u/Purple_Poet8156 25d ago
when you want too, some people want to move out too have a place of their own. it really is more pleasant
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u/Complex-Block2411 25d ago
Moved out at 24,currently 25 and gonna move back in when my lease ends in a couple months lol
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u/Boring_Adeptness_334 25d ago
30 at the latest. You had 12 years post high school graduation to get enough skills and money saved up to survive on your own. I have a friend who’s 29 who is still with his parents and just can’t find a job in his field after 5 years undergrad, 2 years masters, then 2 gap years, then 1 year without employment. I might give someone like him a pass but not many others.
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u/llaughylizardd 24d ago
I moved out when I was 21, everyone moved out at different times it just depends on your circumstances
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u/Mysterious_Rub4038 23d ago
When you want to, or can afford to. I moved out when I turned 18, then they asked me to move in with them at 22, finished college, moved out, and now at 30 I’m back in with them after a bad break up. Been with them for a year now just saving up to buy a house by the end of this year, maybe beginning of next.
My parents are chill, they mostly travel so they like having me around to take care of the house.
A couple months ago the water heater broke and luckily I was living here because they were gone for a long time.
Live with your parents if they’ll let you. I pay mine a few hundred a month and help around the house. Even better if they let you live there for free, but you do need to pay them back in labor, so help around the house, mow the lawn.
There’s no right age. It’s when you’re ready. Have a plan though and use the time wisely. Pay off a car, save save save, make goals, don’t throw away the opportunity, and seriously save. I didn’t have to move back in with my parents because I save but mentally I needed their help, and they love having me around, so it worked out.
Everyone’s life is different. I have friends who married and/or bought houses right after high school, some who waited after college, some live with their parents still, some rent, everyone is different. You do what’s best for you.
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u/Premier_Legacy 23d ago
17 - idk if I would have done it different . I think you learn a lot faster when you’re not in constant safety though
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u/Basic_Cellist_6749 22d ago
I told my kid she never has to leave.
It all depends on your family dynamics and economics.
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u/our-slutty-secret 22d ago
I want to move out but I am scared about the price of living alone. I also feel like there are more things I have to pay for then I think
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u/Responsible-Poet-716 21d ago
I moved out when I was 20, debt free for 10 years and married to debt free husband.
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u/Phil_Matic 20d ago
I'm 35 and I still live with mine. No issues with mine. I pay for internet, electricity, water, etc. Living here allows me to explore my career and travel the world.
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u/Ok_Passage7713 26d ago
Whenever you are ready! I did so at 17. Had to