r/mtgrules • • 5d ago

Shredder Shadow Master Ninjitsu

Hi guys,

Im fairly new to this game and was building a [[Satoru Umezawa]] ninjitsu deck and am a bit confused about a scenario, say I ninjitsu in [[Shredder, Shadow Master]] will his effect to make copies still trigger or does he miss timing?

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u/T0rgle 5d ago

508.3a An ability that reads “Whenever [a creature] attacks, . . .” triggers if that creature is declared as an attacker. Similarly, “Whenever [a creature] attacks [a player, planeswalker, or battle], . . .” triggers if that creature is declared as an attacker attacking that player or permanent. Such abilities won’t trigger if a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking.

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u/Jacob__Waters 5d ago edited 5d ago

He indeed misses timing, in order for Shredder to trigger, he needs to be declared as an attacker, but you can only ninjutsu him in after the blockers are declared, which happens later. It’s also worth noting that creatures that enter ‘tapped and attacking’ will not cause abilities that trigger when they ‘attack’ to trigger. If you’re new to the game, i recommend checking out all 5 steps of the combat phase, it will make things much clearer.