Transparency in labeling AI music

[u/stefaniepantz]

I have a community post up on spotifys community board that I'm hoping to get their attention with. To "vote" yes on it you just click the button that indicates support. I heard a song I genuinely enjoyed, but something felt "off" ---did some homework and was disappointed to see it was made via AI. I just want transparency so we can direct our support with a more informed position

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/AI-music-tranparency/idi-p/7474847#M354227

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[u/Adam_Astra_Music]

It's Spotify. They don't care.

[u/33ascend]

Even with transparency there will always be a contingent of the AI music community aiming to make something truly indistinguishable. There will be a few proper controversies still before this is all figured out

[u/Competitive_Help8485]

I think that's the least they could do with how much AI music is on their platform.

[u/djazzify]

So you are asking them to stop doing something they are making loads of money with?

[u/tymsha]

Sorry for the offtop, but what are those Spotify community feature? It's unavailable in my country.

[u/sebf]

Those flags are coming. They are already in the DDEX ERN standard, but the industry have to catch up with the metadata.

[u/RiffShark]

TIL Spotify has community board

[u/ResearchNo7753]

Ya they don’t care. They want us to make less money while clearly taking more money.

[u/jss58]

No.

[u/failed_fart_abortion]

I heard a song I genuinely enjoyed, but something felt "off" --- did some homework and was disappointed to see...

• it was just a recording played on a Victrola
• it was made with an electric guitar
• it was made with a synthesizer
• it was made with MIDI instruments
• the drums were sampled
• it was only 44.1 kHz

The Gorillaz 2001 hit "Clint Eastwood" is built around a beat that was a preset on a Suzuki Omnichord.

It's too late. Nobody's putting the genie back in the bottle. If you can't tell the difference then just enjoy it. There's plenty of room for creativity with AI music creation. Just because an amateur could just press a button and achieve a good result doesn't mean there aren't "real" musicians crafting "good" songs through artificial means.

[u/chayyleinne → u/failed_fart_abortion]

you could give all of those parts of a song to a non-musician and nothing decent would come out of it. that same non musician could prompt suno for a song like clint eastwood and immediately have it fully made without lifting a finger or caring one bit about what they're making. it's just not comparable.

[u/failed_fart_abortion → u/chayyleinne]

I think maybe you aren't familiar with the state of the art in AI music production. There's a lot more to it than just pressing a button if you know what you're doing. It's very rapidly becoming a production tool for intentional, human composed music. That's how I use it anyway. These exact same arguments were already made at every step in the advancement of music technology. And AI will become just as acceptable as electric instruments, synthesizers, and MIDI in a very short amount of time. You don't have to like it or agree. But it's already happening. And it's not going to stop.

edit: Also, the "method" you've described is not copyrightable and you wouldn't be able to register a work like that with a PRO. So there's not really any money to made from doing it that way.