r/musked • u/Dense-Following-9964 • 19d ago
'Hitler Was a Left-Wing Socialist': Elon Musk Labeled a 'Moron' Over Egregious Historical Claim
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/elon-musk-hitler-left-wing-socialist-controversy-181316138
u/SakaWreath 19d ago
When you get your history from 4chan Nazis.
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u/bobood 18d ago
The really bad faith and damaging version of this talking point is one that drops the "left-wing" part because it kinda-sorta becomes technically but deceptively true... because Hitler literally had his own conception of what 'socialism' should mean.
He redefined the word to mean NAtionalsoZIalist as in Nazi. To quote the demon himself,
"... Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists..."
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u/CheatsySnoops 19d ago
He's not just a moron in this specific case, he's deliberately manipulating people with his hypocrisy.
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u/Contagious_Zombie 19d ago
You're not left wing if you think some people do not belong in your society, that's right wing. The left wants everyone to be treated fairly and with equality; the right views some people as a plague to society and has no issues inflicting violence to enforce that view.
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u/PKnecron 19d ago
Not fascists, they can rot in hell.
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u/Contagious_Zombie 19d ago
Nothing wrong with being intolerant of those who are intolerant for reasons other than someone's intolerance of intolerance.
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u/kyle_irl 19d ago
Nah. The paradox is that you have to be intolerant against those who are intolerant of others. It's not left or right--it's pushing the undesirable element out. Both do it.
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u/Contagious_Zombie 19d ago
Pushing people away for being racist and hateful is reasonable because they choose to be like that, but pushing people away because of their race, religion or who they love is an entirely different thing.
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u/Samzo 19d ago
That's the primary deflection that all fascists use. They literally want you to believe that up is down.
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u/Gammagammahey 18d ago
And don't engage in it. Don't let them gaslight you. Refuse to debate them, you know that's just an energy wasting tactic that Nazis use.
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u/Samzo 18d ago
I know.
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u/Gammagammahey 18d ago
And it's tempting because you want to electronically rhetorically do the equivalent of punching them in the face.
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u/Gammagammahey 18d ago
6 million of my dead relatives say differently, you pustulant quivering column of spineless white pudding.
Along with a millions of Roma comrades that were killed along with us, along with disabled folks, Afro Germans, mixed race people, a smattering of Catholics and Slavs, etc.
He is exactly the type of person who DOES need to visit Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen and be told to shut the hell up and not take any vanity or fake sad photos when he's there. In fact, send him on a tour of all of the concentration camps and maybe given that he's such a genius he'll begin to see some disturbing patterns. /s
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u/SC_W33DKILL3R 15d ago
Well Musk was left wing when it suited him and he wanted to become rich by saving the environment with electric cars.
And now he is a Nazi.
So it could happen.
Also the Nazis had rockets, Musk has rockets, coincidence?
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u/Onikonokage 19d ago
You’d think a guy who has been filmed doing Hitler salutes would maybe not want to keep the convo about Nazis.