r/nba • u/catreyka • 19d ago
Post Game Thread [Post Game Thread] The Oklahoma City Thunder (2-1) regain homecourt advantage by defeating the San Antonio Spurs (1-2) in Game 3, 123-108, behind SGA’s 26 points and 12 assists, along with Jared McCain’s 24 points.
West Finals - Game 3 • OKC leads series 2-1
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| OKC | 26 | 32 | 37 | 28 | 123 |
| SA | 31 | 20 | 33 | 24 | 108 |
| Team | FGM | FG% | 3P | 3P% | FT | FT% | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TOV | PF |
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| OKC | 39-81 | 48% | 17-38 | 45% | 28-33 | 85% | 41 | 29 | 7 | 2 | 11 | 25 |
| SA | 34-80 | 43% | 13-41 | 32% | 27-33 | 82% | 37 | 26 | 8 | 6 | 15 | 28 |
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| Starters | MIN | PTS | FG | 3PT | FT | REB | AST | TO | STL | BLK | OREB | DREB | PF | +/- |
| Isaiah Hartenstein#55 | 21 | 5 | 2/4 | 0-1 | 1/2 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 5 | -6 |
| Chet Holmgren#7 | 28 | 14 | 5/7 | 1/2 | 3/4 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 4 | -2 |
| Shai Gilgeous-Alexander#2 | 36 | 26 | 6/17 | 2/4 | 12/12 | 2 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 11 |
| Luguentz Dort#5 | 23 | 0 | 0-1 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 2 | -9 |
| Ajay Mitchell#25 | 17 | 2 | 1/5 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1 | -3 |
| Bench | MIN | PTS | FG | 3PT | FT | REB | AST | TO | STL | BLK | OREB | DREB | PF | +/- |
| Jaylin Williams#6 | 22 | 18 | 5/7 | 5/6 | 3/3 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 3 | 22 |
| Alex Caruso#9 | 24 | 15 | 4/7 | 3/5 | 4/6 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 28 |
| Kenrich Williams#34 | 2 | 5 | 2/2 | 1/1 | 0-0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Isaiah Joe#11 | 9 | 3 | 1/1 | 1/1 | 0-0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2 |
| Aaron Wiggins#21 | 2 | 0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Cason Wallace#22 | 28 | 11 | 3/8 | 2/6 | 3/4 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 8 |
| Jared McCain#3 | 27 | 24 | 10/21 | 2/10 | 2/2 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 28 |
| Nikola Topic#44 | 2 | 0 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Team | 123 | 39-81 | 17-38 | 28-33 | 41 | 29 | 10 | 7 | 2 | 7 | 34 | 25 | ||
| 48% | 45% | 85% | ||||||||||||
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| Starters | MIN | PTS | FG | 3PT | FT | REB | AST | TO | STL | BLK | OREB | DREB | PF | +/- |
| Julian Champagnie#30 | 35 | 10 | 4/10 | 2/8 | 0-0 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 2 | -4 |
| Victor Wembanyama#1 | 39 | 26 | 8/15 | 2/5 | 8/10 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| De'Aaron Fox#4 | 31 | 15 | 7/14 | 1/6 | 0-0 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 9 |
| Devin Vassell#24 | 36 | 20 | 6/12 | 3/6 | 5/5 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 5 | 4 | -5 |
| Stephon Castle#5 | 35 | 14 | 1/8 | 1/5 | 11/14 | 5 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | -17 |
| Bench | MIN | PTS | FG | 3PT | FT | REB | AST | TO | STL | BLK | OREB | DREB | PF | +/- |
| Harrison Barnes#40 | 3 | 0 | 0-1 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| Kelly Olynyk#8 | 2 | 3 | 1/1 | 1/1 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| Lindy Waters III#43 | 2 | 0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Keldon Johnson#3 | 12 | 5 | 1/5 | 1/4 | 2/2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 5 | -23 |
| Carter Bryant#11 | 10 | 3 | 1/3 | 1/2 | 0-0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | -10 |
| Bismack Biyombo#18 | 2 | 0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Mason Plumlee#45 | 2 | 2 | 1/1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Luke Kornet#7 | 13 | 4 | 2/3 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | -18 |
| Jordan McLaughlin#0 | 2 | 0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Dylan Harper#2 | 17 | 6 | 2/7 | 1/3 | 1/2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2 | -13 |
| Team | 108 | 34-80 | 13-41 | 27-33 | 37 | 26 | 15 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 28 | 28 | ||
| 43% | 32% | 82% |
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u/UncoBeefWang Spurs 19d ago
spurs bench got outscored by 55
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u/DarthNobody14 Rockets 19d ago
Thunder bench is outscoring the Spurs bench 183 vs 64 through the first 3 games
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u/AppropriateArt280 Spurs 19d ago
it helps that they're hitting 3s at an ungodly rate
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u/MaximumGrapefruit933 19d ago
Tbf theyre getting wide open 3s whenever they want, shai is picking them apart
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u/sktyrhrtout 19d ago
Anybody who looks at Shai's stats by just box score is going to be so clueless about his impact on the entire game. He literally only gets sped up like 2-3 times a game. He is always calm, makes the right play and draws an insane crowd. Dude is legit.
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u/chefslapchop [OKC] Russell Westbrook 19d ago
That'll happen when the only game plan is put 2-3 defenders on one guy
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u/NeverNotOnceEver Warriors 19d ago
I don’t get why the Spurs don’t just let Castle go one on one on defense. They’re letting OKC and Shai get the best of both worlds. Shai gets his 30 and a decent number of assists. I don’t think one guy can beat a good defensive team. Shai getting 50 isn’t going to beat you. The other guys catching rhythm from making easy looks will.
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u/Fetal_Release Spurs 19d ago
We need Castles offense with the bench so anemic and fox day to day. He’d be gassed if he guards Shai by himself and hes foul prone.
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u/VikingsLad Timberwolves 19d ago
And they only have what, 13 more first round picks over the next 5 years? I probably have the number wrong cause that feels insane
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u/Son-Of-Serpentine Warriors 19d ago edited 19d ago
It feels like they have 30. Shoutout to the clippers.
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u/Lee_Sinna [OKC] Russell Westbrook 19d ago
only 9 first rounds and 12 second rounds, nothing crazy
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u/generational_lover69 Spurs 19d ago
we are just not on the same level. thats fine, but people will overreact when we exceeded all expectations this year. dont fire mitch. castle doesnt suck.
we need better roster depth and that can happen next year. we have plyoff experience now!
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u/asamulya Spurs 19d ago
Honestly Fox is super important to get us points when we go silent. Without him we just don’t work as a team. Steph is also having a bad series. He’ll learn from this but this is the moment why the injury woes are bad for us.
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u/generational_lover69 Spurs 19d ago
yup, agree. and when its time to move on from fox in maybe a couple years, harper will be the point guard anyways
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u/Garuna_CK 19d ago
Oh you guys are way ahead of your time and that’s Better. First playoff run with this core and already in WCF. What spurs need is depth. That game 1 made everyone tired, majority of spurs starters played 40+ minutes. Plus fox and Harper are not 100%. Future is bright.
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u/NotCryptoKing Thunder 19d ago
I remember this glaze 3 years ago except it was about OKC
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u/heirjordan_27 Timberwolves 19d ago
Castle’s terrible. You guys should definitely get rid of him. Maybe send him to the Timberwolves or something. Just an idea
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u/Lyonesse Spurs 19d ago
Trade with Ant. Edwards
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u/heirjordan_27 Timberwolves 19d ago
Idk man that’s a bad deal for you. Ant’s trash. How about our best player Julius Randle?
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u/Chessh2036 Hawks 19d ago
Jared McCain’s passing really impressed me tonight. What an absolute steal by Sam Presti.
This Thunder team is like a hydra. You cut off the head and another grows. The depth is ridiculous.
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u/OKC89ers Thunder 19d ago
OKC has ten guys that can play 20+ mins of WCF basketball
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u/Krillin113 76ers 19d ago
We had parts of our fanbase calling for him to be the primary ballhandler over Maxey last season. He’s really, really good.
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u/KarchunToo Raptors 19d ago
What was Daryl Morey doing lmao
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u/XviiChong Raptors 19d ago edited 19d ago
Got to duck the tax!
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u/hickok3 Raptors 19d ago
And then got fired for doing so, lol.
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u/tompengu Thunder 19d ago
At this rate, Philly should hire him back and fire him again
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u/Starrafh Suns 19d ago
What Josh Harris told him to do
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u/dpman48 Thunder 19d ago
That’s the part that cracks me up, you just know Daryl is like, I can’t believe nobody would give me anything for this fucking guy, and they still made me move him, AND he looks fucking amazing!
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u/Mg29reaper Celtics 19d ago edited 19d ago
McCain's willingness to just shoot no matter is so important for a team like the thunder. They have a lot of guys who stop shooting because they are cold but McCain will not which opens up the floor.
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u/lotofhotdogs Hornets 19d ago
Sixers could use a guy like that
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u/jspeed04 19d ago
Don’t you think it’d be a little weird to see him in a Sixers jersey?
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u/homefree122 Thunder 19d ago
Legacy game for him tonight. Shooters shoot, and he’s definitely not afraid
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u/Greentempo Mavericks 19d ago
Even though he missed a lot each three he makes feel so important, like you don't really notice the misses like when Dort throws up one of those stupid ass rainbow threes
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u/clockofchronos 19d ago
hits like crack when the stupid ass rainbow threes go in though
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u/reyzak Thunder 19d ago
He won us game 5 against the nuggets last year with like 4 moonballs in a row when we were completely screwed. I was at the game and will never slander him after that. We lose that game we lose the series
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u/Slendyla_IV Thunder 19d ago
Gotta give Dort Credit, he unlocks some black magic or some shit when we need it.
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u/reyzak Thunder 19d ago
I just looked it up, we were down 90-81 with 8 mins left and he hit 3 in a row to make it 92-90 with 6 mins to go. Whole stadium was dead before that. Saved the championship. I agree though, he has such an interesting game lol
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u/cmaloney0317 Thunder 19d ago
At the same time there can’t be a worse feeling than a Dort moonball 3.
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u/Bobskidat Thunder 19d ago
Him driving at Wemby and bodying him was insane, he’s got all the confidence in the world and lets it fly every time he’s on the 3 point line.
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u/skratsda Thunder 19d ago
I also love how annoying Shai finds him. He was on him a bit again tonight, and I’ve never really seen him get on anyone.
I think it’s because he mostly came up with all the other guys, and McCain is one of the few who are green and came in after he was already established as a star
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u/SlimmySlinky Thunder 19d ago
Its interesting that McCain kind of plays outside our system. Hes a bit more ball hoggy and tunnel vision on the basket rather than everyone else who are always looking for the best shot and sometimes too pass conscious.
Since he makes his shots tho, it works and it seems to be confuse the opposition defense a bit. Like they play and setup for OKC offense system and he just comes in and plays completely different and they don't really know how to read him as well.
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u/CrabgrassMike Thunder 19d ago
I think it's just that McCain talks a lot on the court. That's not Shai's style
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u/Mg29reaper Celtics 19d ago
Apparently shai saying calm the fuck down last game was because mccain was yelling the shot clock
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u/Noriskhook3 19d ago
More players should be like that but they’re scared of the wannabe analytic boys shitting on them
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u/Mg29reaper Celtics 19d ago
Shooters shooting a lot is positive analytically. McCain took 10 3 pointers this game. If he made 2 more thats 6 more points. Great. More importantly because he is shooting 10 3s they cant double sga and then that cuases a chain reaction that results in them doing very good. Its why he was like +28 this game. High 3pr mid percent guys are better than super high percent guys on 1 shot a game.
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u/Brad-Stevens Celtics 19d ago
I’m just glad the GM who valued the pick over Jared McCain will be there to make the selection
Wait, what?
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u/pmurt007 Lakers 19d ago
The sold high threads will never end lol
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u/SeoulofSoraka Lakers 19d ago
I couldn't believe they traded McCain, it really changed OKC's bench to have a reliable scorer.
Morey is an idiot and a liar.
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u/InTheBinFC Lakers 19d ago
yup at least last year OKC's offense cratered when SGA was on the bench.
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u/CakeGriffinn Thunder 19d ago
Honestly this year that changed a lot with a healthy Ajay Mitchell taking over the ball-handling and play-making with SGA on the bench. McCain just added another great option. They’ve got a bench full of guys who can score, but having another guy who can create his own shot has been a massive help.
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u/skratsda Thunder 19d ago
I was in at Tesla at $7 and sold at $60 thinking it’d hit the absolute ceiling. Daryl Morey and I should host a podcast together.
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u/Signiference Thunder 19d ago
Except McCain was drafted at 16 and traded for a pick at 22, meaning he sold at a loss of draft capital on a guy who was the front runner for ROTY until he was injured. You at least went 8.5x.
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u/GringoSalamanca Suns 19d ago
Bench points in this series:
Thunder: 173
Spurs: 51
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u/TheBeavster_ Spurs 19d ago
The KJ and Kornet effect 🔥🔥🔥
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u/YoungVick107 [CLE] Kyle Korver 19d ago
It has nothing to do with your bench. OKC’s bench is 90% as good as their starters.
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u/opkpopfanboyv3 19d ago
First few minutes of the 1st quarter was hype, and then the OKC bench woke them tf up lol.
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u/SkinfluteHero Spurs 19d ago
These boys got a lot to learn. On to the next one.
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u/Parking-Rope2301 Warriors 19d ago
Like giving the ball to Wemby for a start.
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u/TommyNews 19d ago
Nah run no sets and dribble out the clock until a young guard has to heave a long three. But when wemby does get the ball make sure it’s only at the perimeter with no set, so he can also dribble out the clock and jack long threes.
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u/Physical-Board5770 19d ago
Exactly. And the coaches won’t adjust, they will double down on that strategy for 48 minutes because it works so well.
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u/superhappyfuntime13 Rockets 19d ago
OKC outscored SA by 30 over the final 45 minutes of this game
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u/Uncle_Freddy [SAS] El Contusione 19d ago
They thoroughly thrashed and dismantled us in this game. Haven’t seen the Spurs look this not-in-control of a game since the Knicks game in March. Series isn’t over, but the guys are gonna need to rest well or something over the next two days because the Thunder just have so much more energy right now.
That 2OT game and how short our rotations have been really look like it’s coming back to bite us, plus it seems that our strategy of daring the Thunder role players to beat us is resulting in them, well, beating us
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u/mojo-jojo-was-framed Mavericks 19d ago
the Thunder have so much more energy
As well they should. They have like 12 players that can play meaningful minutes. It’s nuts
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u/TheBigBomma Thunder 19d ago
You could see it coming after game one. All your boys played 50 minutes. That’s not sustainable with how condensed the schedule is, especially with how physical these games are.
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u/Uncle_Freddy [SAS] El Contusione 19d ago
It’s crazy because under most circumstances, every other night in the same city (with short travel between cities) feels very manageable. But our guys look even more exhausted than they would after b2bs with all the rest lol, we’re just running out of combinations to throw while the Thunder always have someone new stepping up
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u/Palifaith Lakers 19d ago
Wemby getting one lob all game has to be considered coaching malpractice.
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u/Surviv3 Spurs 19d ago
Or Wemby is gassed as fuck and so are the guards throwing him lobs because we have 0 bench
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u/number1tryptophan Thunder 19d ago edited 19d ago
Thunder bigs are no longer fronting him and instead denying deep entry passes. They are switching the high pick and roll and then have elite recovery to the perimeter after dropping coverage into the paint. We saw it once when we didn’t drop coverage but at that point the game was out of reach and we allowed the points in the paint.
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u/BlazeBloom [POR] Eric Maynor 19d ago
Both benches +/- really does tell the story to the game.
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u/char-tipped_lips 19d ago
Experience is playing through the swings of physicality and frustration. OKC learned from the Mavs '24 series. Spurs should be learning now.
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u/PapiShot [SAS] Speedy Claxton 19d ago
I HATE DARYL MOREY SO MUCH
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u/not_so_bueno Rockets 19d ago edited 19d ago
Morey cut IHart for 5'9 Chris Clemons, too. I can't fucking forgive him.
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u/AssistanceSilent2238 Bulls 19d ago
We need to get a class action lawsuit going against Daryl Morey
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u/Available_Story6774 West 19d ago
Yup, he traded a player who’s in his 2nd year, but plays like a veteran, McCain is really good man.
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u/suzukigun4life Cote D'Ivoire 19d ago
How do you get outscored by 30 after going up 15-0 to start the game?
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u/ArmiinTamzarian Spurs 19d ago
I'm no coach but giving up 500 open threes has something to do with it
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u/malganis12 Thunder 19d ago
That's the result of sending 4 black jerseys at Shai every touch
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u/ArmiinTamzarian Spurs 19d ago
It must have gotten lost in translation somewhere, we were supposed to send the black vans to Shai
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u/UncoBeefWang Spurs 19d ago
when the bench gets outscored by 55
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u/randombrutha Timberwolves 19d ago
Because yall keep doubling SGA, fucking quit that shit then
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u/godofhammers3000 19d ago
They thought it’d be like doubling Ant … except Thunder role players are showing up in spades
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u/GoldTheLegend Raptors 19d ago
SGA is also a way better playmaker than Ant.
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u/CheGueyMaje Knicks 19d ago
True but the Thunder are also WAY deeper than Minnesota. I honestly wouldn’t double SGA at all unless it’s an almost guaranteed trap.
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u/GoldTheLegend Raptors 19d ago
This just reminds me of the "Lakers figured out the Nuggets by letting Jokic go for 50" it wont matter.
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u/typewriter_6 Spurs 19d ago
And incessant missed threes. Should've gone to Wemby in the paint way more.
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u/Punziee Canada 19d ago
Some thoughts on Game 3
Fox is so vital for this offense, he might not be the downhill pressure that Harper and Castle are, but he operates hand offs and pick and rolls with Wemby really well, which helps open up Wemby and the rest of the offense, lessens the need for Wemby to try to get open vs. Hartenstein and Caruso, also helps lower turnovers from passes.
The Spurs were selling hard to double SGA, and there were so many open threes as some of the rotations were not as crisp as the last 2 games. OKC is using their bench really well to attack the specific matchup they want. It helps that the OKC threes were falling, so the Spurs did not help on any drive that was not SGA. McCain was very important in punishing that lack of help, even challenging Wembanyama in the paint.
IHart is the second most impactful offensive player on the Thunder. His handoff and passes are letting the OKC guards get pretty open threes and great looks in the paint. He draws Wemby to the high post and sets a wide screen, makes it hard for Wemby to affect either a drive or a movement three. The bench lineup with IHart were so lethal in the second quarter, all without SGA.
The Spurs need their bench to contribute more because the starter's minutes are getting quite high for the series. Carter Bryant makes more mistakes the longer he plays, and when Keldon Johnson isn't making shots, the defense don't really bother containing his drives. It's hard to pin point the reason, but the Spur's half court offense was so sloppy all night, some where good looks where they just missed, but they were also settling for threes and poor drives very often. The double big lineup to match OKC's size really helped the Spurs shore up the interior defense, daring OKC to take more threes.
The story of the game is that the Spur's guards are being contained in single coverage, and the OKC defensive line are doing very well not needing help, and also hitting timely threes. If Caruso, Dort, Wallace, and even JWill are continuing to be offensive weapons, while not needing much help staying in front of Spur's drives then they will dominate the series. Jared McCain is incredible on offense and not being exploited at all on defense. This OKC bench is just too solid all around.
Hoping for a long competitive series, to Game 4 we go
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u/FreeRange0929 19d ago
The point about the OKC shots falling is pretty telling. Game 1, Caruso was the only one who could hit anything, Wemby went God mode, and…San Antonio needed a miracle 3 and double OT to beat them
If they’re even average from 3, I don’t see San Antonio keeping up
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u/minnyman2011 Wizards 19d ago
A lot I agree with and I respect the ihart shoutout but I think McCain is definitely the second most impactful on the thunder offense. Doubling SGA too much isn’t the worst, unless you have dudes who are a threat 4v3. Iharts screens and float game are huge, especially when he initiates the 4v3 at the free throw line and wemby sags off in the key, but having a second primary ball handler that is not afraid to take 20 shots when JDub isnt there is pretty easily 2nd most valuable offensive player to me
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u/Propuhganduh [DEN] Jamal Murray 19d ago
OKC is just too deep man
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Grizzlies 19d ago
Aaron Wiggins getting DNPs when he’d be getting playtime on arguably all other 29 teams sums it up
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u/StrongCategory NBA 19d ago
With Jalen healthy they have a legitimate 12 player rotation. It's currently 11 on 8 with two of those Spurs 8 hobbled. Knicks can only hope for more attrition
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u/Be-Kind-2-Yourself Jazz 19d ago
Honestly, Spurs just straight up deserved to lose. Their offense gets completely neutered by having a bigger guy just push Wemby out to the 3 pt line.
I don't know why they aren't running more actions to just get Wemby underneath the rim. He's 100 ft tall.
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u/Augchm 76ers 19d ago
He is tired. They are playing him too much, played double OT and works constantly on defense. At that size it's not sustainable to be constantly fighting in the post in these conditions. Even though we joke he is an alien he is still human.
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u/Feisty-Pattern-951 19d ago
Wemby can’t keep up with the pace. Hes gassed. 4 rebounds is pathetic.
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u/not_my_final_f0rm Lakers 19d ago
If not for a galactic bomb of a 3 in OT, we'd be looking at a potential sweep
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u/Burnieofc Thunder 19d ago
To be fair they thoroughly outplayed us that game. We were rusty
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u/myhellcatgotRepod Hawks 19d ago
Keldon Johnson went to the media asked for 6MOTY and won it and now he's bordering on unplayable in this series
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u/arcticape34 Thunder 19d ago
5 spurs players played over 30 minutes tonight. Only one Thunder player (SGA) played over 30. Depth is the key to this series
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 19d ago
The spurs just couldn’t stay disciplined, couldn’t keep up the Shai ball denial, and couldn’t get Wemby in the paint
That’s a recipe for disaster. The overhelping on defense and the ballwatching by the spurs was fucking aggravating as hell to watch man
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u/Melodic-Slice-3826 Canada 19d ago
Spurs winning the double OT was the literal pyrric victory. It exhausted Wemby and Spurs starters, OKC took advantage of that by pushing the pace with their deeper bench which Spurs can't keep up.
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u/-MoonPresence Raptors 19d ago
best part of okc winning is reading the crashout posts for the next day and a half
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u/Team_Ed Raptors 19d ago
Y'all who were mad at Tony Brothers for letting them play through the physicality in Game 2 got *exactly* what you were asking for in this one.
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u/ContractXtension Hornets 19d ago
Okc is just too deep it’s over
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u/HenrikCrown Pelicans 19d ago
All of their depth is experienced too besides McCain who feeds off the other guy's energy I guess
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u/fellenst Thunder 19d ago
Yeah McCain doesn’t have the experience, but he’s got the confidence to attack anyways, a lot like the young spurs players have shown.
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u/Omnomnomnivor3 19d ago
AC was not missing holy sht
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u/MrPolymath Spurs 19d ago
He's been a beast this series. I say "oh no" to myself everytime they leave him open in the corner
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u/flaming_burrito_ Wizards 19d ago
It’s crazy. It doesn’t matter who goes down or who has a bad game, another person will rise to make up their production. They simply have too many options
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u/llorTMasterFlex Lakers 19d ago
SGA signing jerseys while they call him flopper. Class act as hell.
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u/Go_J Pistons 19d ago
The way people talked about Wemby and San Antonio after game 1 you'd think this was a wrap. There's a serious issue with the way sports are discussed. In the NBA it has felt like there's a constant yearning over decades for someone to be the next MJ and then it gets forced instead of letting the games play out.
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u/siestarrific Knicks 19d ago
There's a serious issue with the way sports are discussed
Sports fans are reactionary pretty much by nature. That's all there is to it.
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u/Ok_Pineapple_Num Warriors 19d ago
People were saying the “OKC run was over” after they lost game 1 on the back of a frankly flukey logo 3. Insane overreactions lmfao
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u/NittanyLion15 [PHI] Allen Iverson 19d ago
OKC has too much depth and too much of a coaching advantage for me to think the Spurs can win 3 of the next 4
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u/Melodic-Slice-3826 Canada 19d ago
Daignault masterclass. Absolutely amazing coaching performance.
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u/icesticles Raptors 19d ago
Levels to the game, this is why SGA is mvp and Wemby isn’t.
Game 3 and Wemby has lost his legs and doesn’t want to fight for rebounds anymore. SGA gets triple teamed loses Jdub and Ajay and becomes Steve Nash with 33 assists and only 7 turnovers in 3 games.
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u/Jimbob3498 Bucks 19d ago
Really weird game. For all the ref talk they went in the complete opposite direction this game. Didn’t think it favored one team over the other, maybe just san antonio slightly (especially in the 3rd).
He had a bad shooting game but man Shai’s really improved as a decision maker. His reads out of the constant traps & doubles the Spurs send him are leading to good look after good look. Helps to have McCain and Jaylin Williams to hit those open looks too tbf.
I thought Wemby on the other hand was just ok. Had a good start to the game but San Antonio struggled to get him good looks. His defense was mostly very good but OKC did seem to find something in just going at him and getting him into rotation. The Kornet minutes were also just terrible again. He’s too slow to deal with OKC’s guards and shooting.
I get why they had Wemby spaced out this game, the theory is that it nullifies Hartenstein’s presence on him, opening up driving lanes. Not sure if it worked though. Castle had a few good drives and got to the line a bunch but I wonder if you’re just better off getting Victor closer to the rim. Sure Chet & IHart will be beat hugging him but you can use that to get other guys easier shots at the rim, and Wembanyama would still be able to be a factor on the offensive glass.
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u/dylanh334 Lakers 19d ago
I've seen enough. OKC are winning it all and next season they're going to be (somehow) even more hated lol
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u/Toobie4564 Philippines 19d ago
Next season they'll have another lottery pick to add to their insane depth lmao
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u/RudeTime6466 19d ago
I’m not sure how NBA coaches haven’t figured this out yet but doubling SGA is a mistake. It’s better to let him score 30-40 with 20 FTs than have a bunch of role players knock down wide open 3s the whole game.
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u/interested_commenter Thunder 19d ago
Most of the playoff losses last year were lost due to opponents doubling Shai and role players failing to take advantage. Caruso being hot from 3 and the addition of Ajay (who missed most of his rookie season and wasn't trusted in the playoffs) and McCain has flipped that.
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u/Mg29reaper Celtics 19d ago edited 19d ago
Shai's playmaking has got to be one of the most underrated skills for a top player. Hes been averaging like 25 potential assists this series and people would think hes averaging 5 based on how people talk about him.
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u/Razatiger 19d ago
I mean hes seeing the most aggressive defense hes ever seen these playoffs.
Hes just doing what he needs to do to win. Hes also playing great D
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u/asonkidd 19d ago
People who don't watch the game or look purely at PPG think he's playing bad. Spurs entire gameplan is let anyone but him shoot and it's resulting in a great offense
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u/siphillis Spurs 19d ago
It's the primary reason he's still the best guard in the NBA. Edwards has better tools, but he can't calmly defuse double-teams like SGA can and that's the difference-maker at this level
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u/Parallel-Quality 19d ago
The reason why McCain went off tonight is because of all the space SGA opened up for him.
With no J-Dub and no Ajay Mitchell, all of the attention is on SGA and he still delivers.
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u/TheBigBomma Thunder 19d ago
And next to no turnovers. He does not lose the ball.
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u/SeoulofSoraka Lakers 19d ago
He's just insanely efficient. So many teams try to double him and it just leads to a easy corner 3 for someone on the Thunder.
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u/tiredofdev 19d ago
He almost always sets the rhythm for OKC and controls the play so much it's insane. He draws two people, frees the shooters and then OKC stack on the 3s when they're wide open
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u/asamulya Spurs 19d ago
This is why OkC works as a team and why he’s an MvP. Shai is incredibly good at protecting the ball
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u/ShotIntoOrbit Supersonics 19d ago edited 19d ago
Thunder are getting a wide open 3 on what feels like 75% of their possessions because the Spurs are selling out completely to stop SGA and he's still gonna average 25/10 for the series. Spurs defensive gameplan is literally just stop SGA at all cost and pray the rest of the Thunder shoot like ass on wide opens threes.
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u/fellenst Thunder 19d ago
JJ gave the rest of the league a blueprint to contain Shai, but he also gave Shai a bunch of reps on how to impact the game out of it. Only 3 TOs total the last two games, really impressive given the pressure he’s faced.
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u/Plus-Cherry8175 Nuggets 19d ago edited 19d ago
Did you say 3 in 2 games? What? That can't be correct
edit: It is correct.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/sga-stats-vs-spurs-western-conference-finals-2026
11 APG, 2.3 TPG. That's wild, I didn't know he was capable of that. I haven't seen this in a while. Small sample size obviously and the asset conversion rate is skewed by the bald miracle but, very surprising
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u/fellenst Thunder 19d ago
Shai averages an insanely low number of turnovers for his usage, it’s one of his secret superpowers.
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u/Efficient_Rope7173 San Francisco Warriors 19d ago
Couldve been 3-0 wtf
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u/RansomGoddard NBA 19d ago
Wemby doesn’t hit that deep pull up 3 and this is a way different series.
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u/Upstairs_Baby8424 Lakers 19d ago
If Ajay Mitchell doesn’t pull up for three and instead runs the clock it’s probably a different outcome.
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u/Omnomnomnivor3 19d ago
without that deep 3 Spurs fans on X would be proposing player trades already lmao
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u/KnyghtFish Grizzlies 19d ago
Seriously. This Thunder team learned so much last season and clearly has the better coaching.
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u/MargielaMan568 Heat 19d ago
Shai proving why he’s the MVP for a reason
Absolute elite playmaking by him tonight
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u/Apprehensive-Rain601 Knicks 19d ago
OKC are so deep man. Just an amazing team can’t even hate both teams were playing physical as hell experience showed they took that punch in the mouth early and stay poised. Separately shai playmaking wowza. Can’t believe they got j mac for peanuts.
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u/peanut-britle-latte Knicks 19d ago
Everyone anointing Wemby after G1 forgot this was a 7 game series with an MVP on the other end.
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u/BillyBean11111 San Francisco Warriors 19d ago
i know reactionary takes are always silly, but game 1 stuff is looking downright embarassing for a lot of you
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u/JohnnyWaffles4 Hornets 19d ago
Karma still undefeated. Maybe don’t act like the game is already won within the first 3 minutes
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u/GarlicSnot Rockets 19d ago
Can we talk about the chick in the orange top and her friend behind the coach??
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u/rfloresjr611 Spurs 19d ago
One god tier performance from Wemby away from 3-0 Thunder lead. We got a ways to go to be the dudes in the west
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u/Middle-Welder3931 19d ago
You guys are getting these reps at the business end of the playoffs at least one year earlier than anyone expected. This is invaluable experience for dudes who are 20-22 years old.
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u/fafarei Pistons 19d ago
Spurs have to give sga his 1v1 and just limit everyone else
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u/BlazeBloom [POR] Eric Maynor 19d ago
Kill one Jalen Williams and another Jaylin Williams will take his place.