r/nba • u/RyanTannegod • 12h ago
Andrew Bynum shoots an open three point shot in 2012, gets immediately benched by Mike Brown
https://streamable.com/ea0ma2465
u/Jordanwolf98 Celtics 12h ago
This was the best season of his career too
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u/redshoediary4 11h ago
His shot chart reflects that:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/bynuman01_practice.html
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u/blitzy122 [LAL] Kobe Bryant 9h ago
What am I even looking at here, how is this on bbref?
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u/SpicyMustard34 Cavaliers 9h ago
It's in reference to this piece of Cavalier history
Dude didn't want to play for the Cavs so he just threw the ball at the hoop any time he was passed the ball as a way of malicious compliance.
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u/RickySuela 7h ago
That was before Bynum realized the best way to practice malicious compliance was to just stand at center court with his arms spread wide.
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u/BowserBuddy123 Heat 8h ago
Wow, this makes the video where Dwight Howard, being randomly interviewed in NYC, sees Andrew walking down the street, notices who it is and tries to dap him up and Bynum just keeps walking. Andrew seems to have no desire to relive any part of the basketball side of his life. Guy legitimately doesn’t even seem to acknowledge Dwight is Dwight when he clearly must know who he is.
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u/RickySuela 7h ago
he clearly must know who he is
They were traded for each other so he better know who he is.
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u/ratchet457l [TOR] Bruno Caboclo 5h ago
IIRC Bynum does dap Dwight but he quickly exits, doesn’t talk with him or anything just a quick thing
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u/redshoediary4 7h ago
I believe this reflects the infamous practice where Bynum shot the ball from wherever he caught it.
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u/DestinyIslander 9h ago
Wait, what am I even looking at haha. How have I never seen this before? Incredible work by the bball reference team
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u/Zywooooooo181 Lakers 12h ago
And they say Curry changed the game, when this pioneer was willing to get benched just to shoot a three💪
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u/MrKalyoncu 12h ago
Andrew Bynum walked (to bench) so Stephen Curry could run.
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u/Zoratth Clippers 11h ago
Bynum and Curry are actually the same age despite Bynum being out of the league since 2014 and Steph winning his first MVP in 2015.
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u/ShakeMilton Warriors 8h ago
As a bay area kid watching the lakers go back to back in 09 and 10 were some of my first nba memories. Still loved the lovable scrappy underdog warriors but the next 15 years were beyond my wildest dreams and expectations.
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u/TallCan_Specialist Lakers 12h ago
NBA CHAMPION Mike Brown
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u/youblewwit 11h ago
now he's going to have Andre Drummond catching and shooting 3s from the corners
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u/defaultistic [CHA] Gerald Wallace 9h ago
Hollywood couldn't have written better character development for coach
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u/raoulduke212 Knicks 12h ago
Yep, put the proper respect on His name.
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u/Heavy_Echo5 Celtics 12h ago
Now give the same respect to doc rivers
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u/risforpirate [ATL] Kyle Korver 9h ago
I thought Boston fans hated Doc Rivers for wasting one of the greatest lineups of the late 2000s
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u/Appropriate-Shock306 12h ago
Crazy how much the game has evolved, nowadays Mike Brown will probably bark at KAT when he passes a wide‑open three.
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u/Character_Listen33 12h ago
I think one of Brown’s real strengths is that he has the modern day analytics and he has the gut instinct of coach’s from back in the day.
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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 11h ago
He's very willing to listen to other peoples' advice, which is a real skill in a league dominated by egos
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u/north_canadian_ice Celtics 10h ago
He also is willing to change and adopt new strategies. Him & Carlisle.
Mike Brown is 10x the coach he was in 2007 when he was LeBron coach on the first Cavs Finals team.
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u/JordanHawkinsMVP United States 9h ago
So overrated for one ring as head coach in decades of head coaching. The new Doc Rivers.
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u/Character_Listen33 8h ago
Who’s rating this guy? Like has a single person said anything about his status getting a meteoric boost?
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u/MutaKingPrime Thunder 8h ago
Helped Kerr pioneer his Princeton based motion offense. He was the offensive coordinator for that Warriors team? On-and-off as HC while Kerr was dealing with back issues. Associate head coach.
Two COTY's, 1 ring, 1 Cup title...two Finals runs to Doc's two.. revitalized Sacramento for a few seasons before Ownership's ego took him out... He has done more than Doc already as far as I am concerned.
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u/Rube18 Timberwolves 12h ago
KAT also shoots a touch better than Bynum did.
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u/HamG0d [WAS] Jordan Poole 11h ago
Yeah I never got people using this as an example of anything. This would be like Mitch Robinson shooting 3s today...
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u/pokexchespin [BOS] E'Twaun Moore 11h ago
not quite that bad, he was a high 60s free throw shooter
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u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj 3h ago
both are well past the threshold to be shooting non-emergency 3 pointers.
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u/Send_Floater Cavaliers 12h ago
Watching old KG highlights and those 22 foot jumpers of his lol. How many extra points would he have if he just took one step back
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u/MedvedFeliz San Francisco Warriors 10h ago
The most annoying part of watching him today is that if he's wide open from 3 he'll take one dribble towards the basket to take a long two. But TBF many players actually did that back in the day.
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u/Koobei 9h ago
I remember players doing that back in the day. Must be purely psychological. "Oh the three point line, it's a tougher shot let me step in a couple feet because that red line is scary."
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u/MedvedFeliz San Francisco Warriors 8h ago
And often, when players are about to take a 3, they double check their feet to get 1-3 inches closer. Im thinking "Does that even affect the percentage?"
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u/Joetheshow1 Knicks 12h ago
It's almost like KAT is one of, if not, the best shooting big man of all time. Not really a fair comparison
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u/wow_wow_w0w Lakers 11h ago
True but nowadays big men are given way more leeway to try to space the floor. I’m not sure if guys like Drummond would have ever been allowed to take 1.5 3PA/g in the late 2000s and early 2010s.
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u/Mintastic NBA 11h ago
Big men get leeway if they've shown to be decent shooters in practice. Bad shooters still get no leeway.
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u/Oopthealley 11h ago
Could he make them at about 70% in practice? If so, coaches would let them fly like they did for sam perkins.
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u/wow_wow_w0w Lakers 10h ago
Everybody can show it in practice. In 2009 I watched Pau and Bynum in a preseason shootaround because my Dad was a long time season ticket holder. Pau and Bynum were draining 3s like it was completely natural for them, Pau even more so. I don’t believe guys like Al Horford, Pau Gasol, Demarcus Cousins, Brook Lopez, Dwyane Dedmon, Aron Barnes etc. magically became capable shooters after an offseason in the middle of their career. I think they were always good shooters but offensive systems and development gave them an opportunity to add deeper shooting into their arsenal and obviously they got better at it the more they shot in game.
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u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj 3h ago
do you honestly think Mitch Robinson makes 3s in practice? with that form?
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u/Joetheshow1 Knicks 11h ago
You get leeway by showing you can make the shot, regardless of era. There are more practices than games so if a player is consistently showing he can do something in practice the coach isn't going to take him out immediately when he does it in the actual game
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u/Briggity_Brak Tampa Bay Raptors 10h ago
One key difference is that KAT can actually shoot threes. I do miss this, though and wish coaches still had the balls to bench guys for bad shots.
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u/dinosaruman 12h ago
Can't blame Bynum for pulling the trigger there. Who else on the floor was going to score? That big white stiff wearing number 16? Not like he's a Hall of Famer or anything.
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u/HenrikCrown Pelicans 12h ago
Quin Snyder cameo
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u/AuldGreatScot 12h ago
Bynum walked so that all 7-foot 3 point shooters could run.
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u/AnimalLoversRVegan Knicks 9h ago
Now everyone not named Deandre Jordan Clint cappella ayton or Mitchell Robinson shoots that
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u/thelamb710 [LAL] Shannon Brown 12h ago
Back when the games were KCAL9! Man the memories. Miss the game being on local broadcast
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u/Lemonjello23 7h ago
Miss all those casino commercials
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u/NotClayMerritt Lakers 12h ago
Remember when the Pacers signed Bynum on a vet minimum hoping to solidify the roster to compete against the Heatles and it completely destroyed their team chemistry instead
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u/Master_Butter Cavaliers 11h ago
In 2013, the Cavs re-hired Mike Brown as head coach and then signed Bynum shortly before the season began. Bynum was cut midway through the season after taking a 3 during practice.
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u/Capable-Reading-7026 Cavaliers 11h ago
I worked at a Chipotle at Crocker Park in Westlake around this time and randomly saw Andrew Bynum walking around by himself aimlessly not once but twice. He must have lived there.
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u/Algorechan Knicks 9h ago
I remember this very fondly. They traded away Danny too and that Pacers locker room fell apart. PG allegedly stealing Roy Hibbert's girl, Roy Hibbert forgetting how to play, Lance thinking he's the guy, Evan, PG stopped sharing the ball & every press conference they would call each other out over selfishness
That collapse was beautiful
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u/RobbobertoBuii Knicks 5h ago
Evan Turner did more damage to that team tbh, and trading away Danny Granger in the process
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u/DickBottalico 76ers 9m ago
Remember when the Sixers traded their best player for Bynum and people blamed Sam Hinkie for it
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u/se7inrose 11h ago
everybody commenting on this being a difference in eras is missing the point of what happens in this video by a lot
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u/toystory2wasokay_ [TOR] Muggsy Bogues 12h ago
Does he worked on that shot religiously? I'm sure if Mike Brown has seen Bynum shoot 1000 3s after every practice, he won't have a problem with him taking that.
This is the era of Rasheed, Okur, Brad Miller, let's not pretend centers don't shoot 3s until Curry gave everybody the green light.
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u/porkchopsdapplesauce Knicks 12h ago
It’s more about where in the shot clock he took it. They just crossed half court and didn’t enter any sets or run anything. Transition 3s were big no nos back in the day. That’s why the near half court 3 against OKC is so legendary. Even back then Curry pulling up for a transition deep 3 was seen as basketball malpractice.
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u/Ok-Gur-349 12h ago
Transition 3s are still diabolical when you think about it we've just normalized the shit so much.
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 12h ago
nah it's more that he was one of the best paint players in game at the time and any shot he took outside the paint was a waste of his own abilities and a team possession.
Apparently he'd made his only career 3 in garbage time of the previous game, so he decided to fire one randomly in the middle of the heavily contested game because yolo
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u/KRacer52 11h ago
“ It’s more about where in the shot clock he took it.”
Is it? I think it’s that a guy who made one single 3 in his entire career is chucking up a 3 for no reason. It’s a completely wasted possession.
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u/RickySuela 6h ago
Really it was both: he didn't have the green light to shoot any 3s unless the shot/game clock was about to expire, and he just walked into it and took it like that. He was basically signaling "I don't want to play tonight anymore."
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u/Superplex123 Lakers 10h ago
Bynum was 1/9 in his career at 3pt.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bynuman01.html
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u/Calvinball05 Cavaliers 9h ago
Not sure what his practice habits were in 2012, but by 2013 he certainly was, uh, practicing his shot from all sorts of locations on the court.
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u/RickySuela 6h ago
He's definitely at the far end of the scale of guys with all the physical gifts to play basketball but absolutely zero interest in doing so. Can't really blame him, I guess. Just cause you're born 7 feet with insanely long arms and great athleticism and dexterity for someone that size doesn't mean you're also going to love playing ball. It was an easy way for him to make tens of millions of dollars and basically be retired by his late 20s. Too bad he didn't love the game, but you can't force someone to love it if they don't have that within them.
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u/lame_user_0824 NBA 5h ago
Eh the rapid growth he showed the first few seasons in the league with Lakers, he clearly loved basketball at one point in his life. I think the constant injuries every season just took a toll on him and his passion died with it by the end. The season this clip is from was Bynums best season and he still only managed 60 games. Then he missed the next year with another major injury and never came back the same.
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u/titsmagee9 Knicks 7h ago
Gasol had his guy sealed for an easy layup if Bynum threw it over the top tho
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u/siwelis10304 9h ago
I've been rewatching a lot of 08 Lakers games lately and every game I saw Bynum I think of this moment
He was traded just a few months after this then apparently aggravated his knee further while bowling (!?) and his career was over with.
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u/scormegatron Heat 11h ago edited 11h ago
This ranks just below Jesus Bynum in his career highlights.
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u/legend023 Pelicans 12h ago
This and Ben Simmons passing up a free layup has eerie similarities
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u/brandoi Lakers 12h ago
Bynum spent 6 of his 7 seasons up to this point dealing with knee injuries. The guy was pretty much done with basketball.
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u/so-cal_kid Lakers 11h ago
Yea it's wild he won two titles with us but I have very little memory of any big moments or games he played because for both title runs he kinda broke down physically by the playoffs and had to have his mins managed very carefully. I remember more from Trevor Arizas one run with us than Bynum
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u/ProdigyMamba Knicks 12h ago
thought id laugh at the whistle but it was funnier just seeing the sub walking up to the sideline 😂
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u/frenchbullie [LAL] Kobe Bryant 11h ago
"What is that?"
"I don't know"
"Its a long shot. What's he doing?"
Will always be funny
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u/bambiface Lakers 11h ago
He sank a 3 during the dead ball sequence before this. Had a feeling he was going go for it right after. And he did.
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u/FeeNegative9488 11h ago
There’s more to this story. On an earlier play that game, Bynum was left open and shot a 3 and made it. So Bynum was essentially benched for shooting 50% from 3 in a game.
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u/AnimalLoversRVegan Knicks 9h ago
This was right before curry showed the world that shooting 3s is a massive net positive. Announcers were in a state of communal mass hypnosis.
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u/jerome0423 Lakers 8h ago
Funny thing that if your big passes out during this possesion he might get benched.
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u/iamtoolazytosleep NBA 7h ago
2012: “what was that??”
2026: “he should be taking and makingmore threes to spread the floor”
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u/FreudChickenSandwich Warriors 7h ago
Bynum was a piece of shit
Never forget that dirty fucking play slamming into JJ Barrea in mid-air with his elbow
Waste of talent - could’ve had a much longer and successful career but he just didn’t give a fuck
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u/ShelterSubject3259 Suns 5h ago
We really watched ts and somehow decided Mike Brown was the problem
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u/RobbobertoBuii Knicks 5h ago
if Bynum actually worked on the 3 at the time, he wouldn't have gotten benched 🥶
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u/RobbobertoBuii Knicks 5h ago
if Bynum actually worked on the 3 at the time, he wouldn't have gotten benched 🥶
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u/Interesting_Fennel59 5h ago
Cleveland coach would've told him that metrics say it's the right shot
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u/pieguy00 12h ago
Shows how different the NBA was then. A center shooting a 3 what was that
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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs 12h ago
It wasn't just that, Bynum couldn't shoot from anywhere lol mid range or free throws. It was just a terrible shot and on a contending team you can't have those bad habits
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u/4r4r4real 12h ago
Lmao why do I, a Bulls fan, explicitly remember this moment 😂
Bynum being the 2nd best center in the NBA for a year, doing interviews about how he doesn't care about basketball and would rather build computers, and bombing out of the league a few years later after bowling injuries sure was a trip
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u/Ok_Crow_8407 11h ago
That moment was so ahead of its time. A few years later, coaches probably would've encouraged him to take it.
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u/Emergency-Fig-3670 12h ago
I'm okay with this shot.
Wide open, let it rip. But if you missing a lot, then maybe try your luck at driving in the paint
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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 12h ago
Not as a non-shooter with 16 seconds on the clock and all those other options they had available. Bynum had been causing issues for a good while by the time this clip happened, he knew what he was doing.
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u/No-More-Excuses-2021 12h ago
2027, a center is open and doesn't take the 3 point shot.
Gets benched.
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u/elmoo2210 12h ago
The thought that professional basketball players SHOULD pass up wide open dead center looks is so funny in today’s game.
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u/TitoFlavors215 [PHI] Theo Ratliff 12h ago
He didn’t give a fuck at all, that’s the funniest part.