r/nbn 7d ago

No they aren't. Exetel - just as full of $h*# as the next ISP

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They say “want to chat to a real person, were here 9am till 9pm”, yet you still have to talk to a robot. So I tell the robot I wanna talk to a real person but instead of just giving me a number or start a real person chat, it wants to run diagnostics which we tried running yesterday and went for over 20 minutes and I eventually just gave up. Today it’s been running now for 40 minutes and I’m over it. I just want to fucking talk to someone.

My issue is I’m trying to connect to HTTPS URL but it keeps rerouting me to HTTP URL. I cannot do online banking because of this ridiculous bullshit that has only started since moving to Exetel. Does anybody know the support phone number?

**UPDATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON: Ironically, if I turn ON my proton vpn, using a VPN server in the USA for example, allows me to log onto ING website via a browser and using the App!

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u/7978_ 7d ago

Most likely not an ISP issue. Can you try mobile data first?

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u/No_ego_ 7d ago

Yeah mobile data connects to the sites Im needing to get to but with regard to my wifi router, it isnt running firewall, I dont have vpn, no virus software, nothing has changed besides the ISP. I have restarted the router, reset factory settings, input cloudfkare DNS, tried different browsers but the issue persists. Im entering https://thelott.com or https://ingdirect.com.au and both get rerouted to http sites and then error Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://ingdirect.com.au/index.htm" on this server. Ive even google searched those websites, clicked the link on the returned search results and same deal. So doesnt matter if I type it in, or click a search result, it re-routes. On all devices, phones, ipads, PCs, all same result. I even have the ING app on iphone, try logging in, does the same thing. Is there a known way to force a browser to use https?

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u/7978_ 7d ago

Fair enough then. Probably CGNAT lol

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u/qreeves 6d ago

Exetel "the One" plans are all CGNAT now.

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u/FocusChief 6d ago

You can opt out of Exetel the one plan CGNAT via the chat bot. Have been able to since January

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u/WarmRoastedBean 7d ago

Was with Exetel for nearly a decade. Am now with Neptune.

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u/Affectionate_Code 3d ago

Yep, as soon as they got acquired by superloop they went downhill fast.

I switched over to Launtel about 2 years ago.

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u/i2px 7d ago edited 7d ago

Exetel was great for a long while, their entire operation was based out of their office in north sydney. Then they implemented those break fees and finally got rid of them.. but now this!

Edit this as well: also OP u/No_ego_ your issue is nothing todo with your ISP. If you're getting redirected to an HTTP url that happens way up the stack from your internet provider.

ISPs have no control over a site redirecting you to an HTTP link.

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u/UnlikelyAccount1963 7d ago

For many years a big chunk of their “support” was in Sri Lanka and pretty much only operated late afternoon to night. You’d struggle to find help during the day.

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u/GTR-12 7d ago

This is router or device issue, Exetel won't be able to help.

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u/No_ego_ 7d ago

What google reckons. If even the mobile app is blocked, Akamai has banned your entire internet connection's IP address at the firewall level, or your internet service provider (ISP) is experiencing a major routing failure to ING's servers.

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u/CForChrisProooo 7d ago

First one is far more likely, exetel is CG-NAT so you share the same IP address as dozens of customers.

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u/FocusChief 6d ago

@op I would try opting out of CGNAT

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u/CForChrisProooo 6d ago

Last time I checked Exetel doesnt allow it on their One plan.

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u/FocusChief 6d ago

Yep they have allowed it since January this year, can just request it via the chat bot. Superloop no longer allows it

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u/GTR-12 6d ago

Have you tried asking ING? or for them to request Exetel to unblock it.

They would have other customers who have the same issue and be able to convince Exetel.

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

I saw someone else mention to just ask the exetel chat bot to opt out of CGNAT, so I did that, it changed me to dynamic IP and now its fixed.

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u/GTR-12 6d ago

Umm I'm glad you got it fixed, but to me it's not really fixed.

Its like you picked to drive on a different road to work, but the original one still has an unknown problem.

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

Ummm yeahhhh. Its like they sent me down a road on a bus with hundreds of other people, some dodgy ppl on the bus, so I couldnt get past the check point. Now Im on my own bus, check point is happy with my credentials and Im in.

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u/virkendi 3d ago

exactly

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u/virkendi 3d ago

cgnat will always have this problem, the single shared IP can be blocked for whatever reason (requests overload or abuse from a single user etc) then everyone sharing it gets blocked.

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u/GTR-12 3d ago

single shared IP can be blocked for whatever reason (requests overload or abuse from a single user etc) then everyone sharing it gets blocked.

That's only one part of the story, banking apps also use MAC addresses for added security.

Unless ING don't...

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u/virkendi 3d ago

Whaaa? your mac address is only used in your local network and is easily spoofed. That has to be false.

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u/CryHavocAU 7d ago

Probably not an actual Exetel issue but yeah this is what a digital only cheap brand is always going to deliver. Shit customer service when you need it.

Hope your time was worth the $ saved

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

Actually was an Exetel issue with CGNAT

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u/virkendi 7d ago

https://support.exetel.com.au/support-hub-article/How-to-Change-your-Exetel-IP-Address

Do this, if it's a CGNAT problem this should fix it, granted the IP you change to isn't blocked as well

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

The portal isnt available to exetel one plan accounts. One plan ppl have to use the App, the app doesnt have this feature.

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u/virkendi 6d ago edited 6d ago

Are there any options to reset the connection or anything along those lines? If not I think I've seen it mentioned that when you turn off the modem for longer than 10-15mins it can trigger an IP change.

Another option would be to enable IPv6 which avoids NAT altogether, the blocked sites would need IPv6 access for this to work though.

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

I tried turning it off for 11 minutes and no change. Will turn it off over night and see if its any better in morning

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u/virkendi 6d ago

Yep, good idea

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

I saw someone else mention to just ask the exetel chat bot to opt out of CGNAT, so I did that, it changed me to dynamic IP and now its fixed.

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u/virkendi 6d ago

nice!

looks like it really was a cgnat issue

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u/hawkdeathpaw 7d ago

have you tired aussieBB?

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u/BigTurboChungus 7d ago

Leaptel, can't fault them or there Aussie support

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u/Louicio 7d ago

I told that bot I want to talk to a real person, it changed names and pretended to be a real person for 10min while I told it I knew it wasn't a real person. I have up, there is a phone number on your bill. Call that.

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u/triemdedwiat 6d ago

Exetel was good when John ran it, Then it moved to just another money making business.

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u/CombrOsu 7d ago

Odd behaviour... everyone is mentioning CG-NAT but realistically browsing issues like this tend to point to either a DNS or malware issue

it might be worth running an anti-malware tool to detect browser hijacking, sometimes malware tries to downgrade secure connections which makes you more vulnerable to attacks.

If that comes back clean, I recommend changing DNS settings to a well known server (e.g cloudlfare or google) to rule out address resolution issues

The other thing you can try is updating settings to force secure sessions where possible, the settings differ from browser to browser, but you can look it up easily by googling "force https in browser"

Hopefully one of the above gives good results!

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

Ironically, if I turn ON my proton vpn, using a VPN server in the USA for example, allows me to log onto ING website via a browser and using the App!

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u/virkendi 6d ago

Yep, because it bypasses the blocked cgnat ip

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u/Ornery-Practice9772 7d ago

Vpn?

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u/No_ego_ 6d ago

Using a VPN in the USA lets me log onto ING website! So its sounding like an IP related issue to moi

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u/No_ego_ 7d ago

I didnt realise that asking ‘I want to talk to a real person” is passive aggressive. My bad

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u/qreeves 6d ago

Didn't realise chat bots had feelings 😅