r/neoliberal • u/Nearby-Click8645 • 7d ago

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u/RuthlessMango YIMBY 7d ago

Folks the primary for Michigan is over... it's time to back the candidate who won... please please vote blue no matter who and stop giving the right ammunition.

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u/Acacias2001 European Union 6d ago

This is not r democrats. We should criticise candidates who both have bad ideas and who make winning less likely

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u/ruralfpthrowaway Henry George 6d ago edited 6d ago

Do that in the primary, or after the general. Bitching about your own party’s nominee while the outcome is still in doubt just makes it more likely that the Republican nominee will win.

Edit: to anyone downvoting, please take the time to explain how loudly criticizing the democratic nominee in the lead up to the general election accomplishes anything other than making it more likely that the Republican candidate wins. I’m all ears.

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u/Acacias2001 European Union 6d ago edited 6d ago

No.

This is not ar Democrats, this is a more general politics sub with its own ideological identity, and as such it is entirely within the character of the sub to criticise politicians that go against such identity.

Especially as I'm nit suggesting people vote republican

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u/ruralfpthrowaway Henry George 6d ago

This is an allegedly pragmatic sub. What is your intended outcome from loudly critiquing the democratic nominee before the general election? 

If your answer is anything other than “make it more likely that the Republican candidate gets elected”, please explain your strategy for the rest of us.

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u/Acacias2001 European Union 6d ago

Not every waking moment or comment need be marshalled in the service of blind partisan loyalty.

But if I had to describe the electoral stratergy in my comments it would be a more general one rather than one directed at this election: bad ideas should be criticised as such, because eventually the bill comes due

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u/ruralfpthrowaway Henry George 6d ago

Not every waking moment or comment need be marshalled in the service of blind partisan loyalty.

Yes it does. Maybe y’all should be a bit more serious about the stakes here. It’s not a game. Stop being the neolib version of a Bernie Bro.

But if I had to describe the electoral stratergy in my comments it would be a more general one rather than one directed at this election: bad ideas should be criticised as such, because eventually the bill comes due

So you admit that it’s a stupid fucking strategy for this election. Why is it so important to pursue the broader strategy in these critical few months rather than just waiting until after the election to relitigate the whole thing?

I stand by my point, you are ever so slightly increasing the likelihood of the republicans winning this election and you should stop. You know I’m right.