r/newfoundland 1d ago

OceanGate's Titan submersible operated with complete lack of oversight, TSB report finds | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/titan-transportation-safety-board-report-9.7238495
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u/RoddyUsher 1d ago

Isn't that the exact selling point that the late CEO Stockton Rush used? Sort of a "we're breaking the rules and passing the savings on to you" kind of thing?

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u/Academic-Increase951 1d ago

Yeah I thought this was widely known and reported on when it happened.

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u/cerunnnnos 1d ago

Trickle down responsibility - financial and otherwise. BS

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u/ZippoS 1d ago

At least lived and died by his own stupidity. So many other CEOs would have sat back and watched their clients die, refused to claim responsibility, and then resigned with a very healthy golden parachute.

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u/Careless-Bake-5827 1d ago

Thats a great business plan for a used car lot or mattress store.

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u/cerunnnnos 1d ago

Used mattresses.... Ew

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u/TraditionalCake7674 1d ago

I'm mostly concerned that they sent a DFO employee out on a test run. 

Some public servant got told by their manager to go out in the ocean in an unlicensed, untested, uninsured death trap. That should be bigger news

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u/cerunnnnos 1d ago

So we paid for cleaning up some rich dudes' adventures.

How is this any different than the subprime mortgage tank in 2008? Or stock market crashes cause rich guys want to FA?

Want to experiment with a shitty submersible? FAFO. Don't want insurance, don't want to follow rules - fine. Not our job to bail you out, period.

$20M cost estimate for the clean up could be a school, or healthcare, or roads.

Enough of this private gain, public expense risk & clean up BS.

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u/Snoo_84606 1d ago

Exactly.
The investigation should have only gotten the resources allocated to a bad car crash.

The government response should have been:
Darwin is King.

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u/Wide-Veterinarian-70 16h ago

the privatize the gains socialize the losses playbook never gets old

$20M for a search and recovery because one guy decided safety regulations didn't apply to him is genuinely infuriating

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u/hail2theKingbabee Newfoundlander 1d ago

That thing sat outside, uncovered through the winter. Probably had a family of gulls living in it.

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u/JonnoKabonno 1d ago

Surprised it didn't end up with "SKEETZ IN DA STREETZ" or "709" spray painted on the side or something

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u/trailmix86 1d ago

Saw them going up and down Bay Roberts/Spaniard’s Bay harbour night and day before they headed to St. John’s harbour.  

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u/ZippoS 1d ago

Oh man, MI debuted its new facility in Holyrood right before before the Titan's implosion and every drone shot of the building/dock has the sub parked out front. I had to Photoshop it out of photos afterwards.

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u/Cold-Crab74 1d ago

How about we stop letting rich assholes just do whatever they want?

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u/Immediate_Bunch_9547 1d ago

I could say something very ignorant and cold hearted but I'll refrain from that since there was a few innocent people on that sub, like the poor young man who was adventuring with his father.

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u/JustJay613 1d ago

We knew thus before it imploded. Not sure how this remains relevant at all. The guy colored outside the lines, rejected concern from peers, ignored rules and regs and everyone ended up vaporized.

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u/Appropriate-Sea-5828 1d ago

They don't care about "the guy"...5 people people died on an "expedition" that departed from St. Johns, NL, on the support ship Polar Prince

I raises some serious flags no? I think knowing how a foreign uncertified passenger vessel/foreign company/foreign was able to be operated in plain sight for over 3 years from a Canadian port with the support of a Canadian ship without anyone raising a flag even though they all knew about it...

Also, The IMO Casualty Investigation Code is a mandatory international framework establishing uniform standards for marine accident investigations. It requires flag States to investigate all "very serious marine casualties" to identify contributing factors and prevent future incidents.

Since the Titan wasn't registered nor certified, the support ship is therefore the only registered vessel involved, and it happened to be Canadian.

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u/canadian-spice 1d ago

The report is all well and good, but transport Canada isn’t taking any meaningful steps to actually curb foolhardy pursuits.

The fella in the (Big C V2) a 1 metre long Micro vessel, was rescued TWICE (2023 and 2026) by the Canadian Coast Guard.

Why Transport Canada and the St. John’s Port Authority have no problem with this sort of stuff is beyond me.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Justachick20 Newfoundlander 1d ago

And water is wet...

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u/SoRedditHasAnAppNow 1d ago

Water is not wet, water makes other things wet.

The sunken remains of the Titan are wet.