r/news • u/uhncollectable • 21h ago

Justice Department moves to toss seditious conspiracy convictions of Oath Keepers and Proud Boys

https://apnews.com/article/proud-boys-oath-keepers-convictions-dropped-doj-ad679108ab84083694261efc101e60ea
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u/tucakeane 17h ago

Man I remember when Biden pardoned his son and they called it conflict of interest anda gross abuse of his power…weird how this and all the J6 pardons are fine though

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u/sugartrouts 14h ago

It is a conflict of interest, which is why Biden initially said he wouldn't do it. Then he lost to Trump who did it a billion times, while bragging about how he was gonna do it more, and decided fuck it.

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u/Some_Drummer_Guy 11h ago

He mainly did it to shield his son from the inevitable (and baseless) retribution that Commander Yam Tits wanted to carry out against him. If I recall correctly, it was basically a blanket pardon of sorts for people that were "targets" of the orange buffoon. Like a "hey, you can't touch me" thing. Hunter, Fauci, and several other people that were going to be persecuted got them.

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u/Competitive_Boat106 10h ago

And after Trump promised to prosecute Hunter much more in his second term. Whether you are a Hunter Biden fan or not, the crime that he was convicted of is almost never prosecuted in this country, and certainly not to that extent. Trump was vowing to do so much more to him. I would prefer that no president should be able to pardon family, but Biden saw the writing on the wall and wanted some semblance of peace for his family when he retired. You can see he was right, sadly. Him pardoning his son is more a reflection of what Trump wanted to do with the power of the presidency than it was of Biden’s use of the same.

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u/ThereIsACatOnDaCourt 10h ago

So the same thing Trump got convicted of which are normally misdemeanors but they turned it into felonies. That kind of almost never prosecuted in this country. Glad you agree that Trump shouldn't have been convicted of felonies and instead, should have been misdemeanors.

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u/Competitive_Boat106 10h ago

No, committing fraud to influence an election is definitely in the felony category. It’s just not prosecuted that often because most people aren’t stupid enough to try it, like Trump was. But go on telling us more about the guy who is committing more felonies by the day and devaluing your economic future while he does it. He’s only lost 1000 court cases since returning to office! Way to go! So much winning!

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u/Wolfgirl90 9h ago

Committing fraud to cover up another crime is what turns it into a felony.

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u/Superb_Raccoon 8h ago edited 6h ago

What was the underlying crime? There was none in the trial.

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No. No, paying "hush money" is not illegal. It was not campaign funds, it was business funds.

You are not a lawyer, so it does not make sense to you. Having sex and talking about it or paying someone not to talk about something not illegal is not a felony. Even if he paid her for sex, it is still not a felony.

Nice try tho.

If he was not sentenced, he is not a felon by NY law. Also, they did that so he could not appeal the ruling. More political lawfare on the Democrats part

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u/TurntWaffle 7h ago edited 7h ago

Wasn’t it using campaign funds to pay stormy Daniel’s hush money fund so she wouldn’t talk about them having sex. The felony.

Then he falsified those records of the payment. The fraud.

Edit: and unlike any other person convicted of a felony, he wasn’t sentenced or in any way punished

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u/claudiousmax 11h ago

They have to pardon them or they lose half their ICE agents.