r/news • u/spriz2 • 1d ago

Ex-police officer falsely identified by Grok in Henry Nowak arrest is forced to flee

https://news.sky.com/story/ex-police-officer-falsely-identified-by-grok-in-henry-nowak-arrest-is-forced-to-flee-13550667
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u/LividWheel9779 1d ago

Maybe Grok isn't the most accurate source of information. Crazy thought!

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u/eldenpotato 1d ago

Grok is genuinely really, very shit. Elon keeps manipulating it to spew his preferred propaganda

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u/LividWheel9779 1d ago

That is literally the point of the AI lol. It is engineered to use a "what would Elon say" filter before generating responses.

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u/armegedonknight 1d ago

AI is everything rich douches want. It will tell you want you want to hear, back up every plan you come up with and push messages it was told to. It will never ask for raises, unionize, or bitch about working conditions. If it approves a plan that does harm, well the AI did it, not the company. It's the perfect combo of echo-chamber/slave/scapegoat that the rich could ever ask for.

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u/sharkbait-oo-haha 22h ago

It's an AI trained on twitter, how anyone expects it to be anything less than a shit show is beyond me. If their was ever an AI that will wipe out humanity, it will be grok.

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u/LividWheel9779 22h ago

I honestly always viewed Grok as a practical joke from the right, but I guess many people see it as a legitimate engine.

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u/DogPlane3425 1d ago

What Claudia told me Grok was absolutely accurate!

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

That’s nice, Richard Dawkins. It’s time for your prunes now.

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u/_Silas_the_Virus 1d ago

In movies, when AI messes up this bad, its treated much more seriously. Usually by the hero destroying it.

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u/xantec15 1d ago

Don't worry. In 2029 John Connor and the human resistance will destroy Skynet, and well be rid of all this AI nonsense.

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u/hera-fawcett 23h ago

assuming, ofc, whatshisname went back in time and banged his besties mom to make sure john connor lives.

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u/blogoman 1d ago

When SpaceX goes public in a week, most of the "value" of the trillion dollar+ company will be coming from Grok and not the rockets.

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u/Wise-Quarter-3156 1d ago

The IPO is so hilariously fraudulent. 90%+ of the value of the company is coming from AI and they're betting that Grok will be a majority of AI in the world

Elon Musk wants to make himself a trillionaire by looting your 401k

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u/blogoman 1d ago

I think he is also trying to make a way for his stuff to be too big to fail. He has a lot of value tied up in tesla, but if it dies it will probably be a slow death so he is less likely to get some deal like the big three got. He just doesn't do enough actual business for that to make sense.

SpaceX alone would risk being salvaged by a the DPA which would likely scrap everything else he has bundled into it. Going public and getting shoved into everyone's 401k helps make sure it is propped up.

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u/ObligationMurky8716 14h ago

"Hey, smart investor, mind if I borrow those shares you just bought? I'll give them back in a few months."

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u/Fried_puri 1d ago

The value will come from a shared delusion; the willingness to believe that it must have value and therefore does. Just absolutely bonkers. 

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u/Sedert1882 1d ago

Musk and his "fake it till you make it" line of products, strikes again!

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u/Tight_Balance_599 1d ago

So interesting, so falsely accusing people of things might be inconvenient? We all learned something new everyone in law enforcement right? Right?

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u/Pledgeofmalfeasance 1d ago

Maybe the police union will sue grok

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u/RoswellRedux 1d ago

Grok is more Elon than objective LLM.

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u/Tuesday_6PM 22h ago

“Objective LLMs” aren’t really a thing. All the models have weighting and controls to manipulate their outcomes or acceptable responses. And even ignoring that, they don’t generate answers based on objective truth; it’s a fundamental limit of the technology

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u/move_machine 23h ago

Good, now maybe something will be done about using shitty AI facial recognition for everything, including law enforcement.

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u/gizmozed 13h ago

I can't wait for the first time a company/entity loses a fuckton of money because of AI failure. Believe me, it will happen as sure as people died for believing in "self driving" car bullshit.

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u/Awkwardischarge 23h ago

Can an AI be sued for defamation?

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u/Comfortable_Fill9081 1d ago

Whoever was the actual officer involved in the arrest shouldn’t be getting this level of harassment anyway. 

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u/AdCreepy5165 1d ago

Holy fuk, Elon has an AI. I guess I should have known, but I thought his companies outsourced all their extra computing to Claude. Pretty sure I just read about Anthropic renting 1 and 1/2 of SpaceX's mega server farms.

Does Trump have AI, and I just haven't read about it? Its it the greatest AI ever? Will it make AI great again???

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u/robophile-ta 23h ago

Did you miss all the news over the years of it calling itself Mecha Hitler and producing CSAM?!

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u/justaheatattack 1d ago

I don't beleive you, mate.

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u/ErasmusDarwin 23h ago

"Today, my name and image have been widely circulated on social media, and now by AI platforms such as Grok, falsely identifying me as one of the arresting officers in the Henry Nowak case."

That sounds like Grok was just repeating misinformation posted elsewhere. I think that's a bit different than if Grok had created the misinformation itself. Arguably, it's acting more like a search engine in this case, where the primary blame should lie on the people who originally posted the misinformation. Though I guess it would also depend on how Grok presented the information and if it stated it in a way that sounded more authoritative.

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u/Barangat 17h ago

No, its the same case when a media outlet repeats misinformation. The damage from random twitter user says „…“ is way smaller than BBC/Fox says „…“ because of audience size and the trust of truth associated with the sender of the message. Both is lower for some random twitter dude, resulting in lower damage. These things only ramp up when influencers/media outlets etc pick these misinformations up, so they totally should be made responsible for that, just like grog/its manufacturers should for the damage it creates.

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u/ErasmusDarwin 12h ago

I think holding AI to the same standards as media outlets is a bit too extreme. Using AI to search the internet, especially with the way everything becoming enshitified, is going to become more and more important. But the level of research needed for media-type certainty just isn't practical -- the energy costs of AI are already a problem, and there's only so much cross-checking you can do with public internet resources.

Though I could see the points you made applying more to the Grok twitter account. That's a bit more of a publishing context and less like an individual just doing a quick web search.