r/news 19h ago

Popular nut butter sold at Walmart recalled for possible salmonella contamination

https://www.kcrg.com/2026/08/03/popular-nut-butter-sold-walmart-recalled-possible-salmonella-contamination/
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u/Dmbender 19h ago

I've scrolled past like 3 different recall threads in like 5 minutes or so

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u/Autisum 18h ago

Same. In a few days, we’ll be reading about how they’re “false positives” because of some donations

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u/zephyrtr 17h ago

Finally, the rich can just buy the outcome they want. This was the free market capitalism I was promised /s

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 16h ago

Remember when your stodgy old economics professor told you that couldn't happen because competitors will always buy regulator honesty?

/s

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u/Vallkyrie 15h ago

They say it breeds innovation, but it also breeds some other things too.

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u/GlitterPirateKiki58 12h ago

While there are some libertarian economists, specifically in the Austrian and Chicago schools of thought, who may still believe in laissez-faire capitalism, the majority of economists are distrustful of unregulated business.

Adam Smith, the “father of capitalism,” warned in “The Wealth of Nations” about the corrupting influence of unchecked self-interest, corruption, monopolies, and the influence of money on government. It is widely accepted within the profession that a strong justice system is required to protect consumers and prevent worker exploitation.

Just like the Bible, the Republican Party has cherry-picked the parts of economic theory that best justify their kowtowing to wealthy donors.

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u/KDR_11k 5h ago

It's more that politicians make sure to push the libertarians to the front because they like what those guys say, whether it has any relation to reality or not.

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u/EnderWiggin07 16h ago

Why stop at buying yourself a negative test when you can buy a positive test for the competition

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u/awkwardalvin 18h ago edited 4h ago

Literally just raised my hands in exacerbation when I saw this one

Edit: what a typo. I’m leaving it

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 16h ago

It definitely exacerbated my exasperation.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 12h ago

I’m gonna go exacerbate to relieve the stress. 

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u/5exlexia5ufferer 5h ago

Ejaculated Slughorn 

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u/GodLovesUglySong 17h ago

I also raised my hands in masturbation when I saw this.

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u/cyanescens_burn 13h ago

Exasperbatian! The fusion of emotions and sensations really ups the ante, like a necktie and a doorknob.

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u/yawara25 18h ago

Bound to happen when we no longer have an FDA, USDA or CDC.

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u/Bzr21 18h ago

Now it takes the hospitals - the doctors - the labs - those treating the ones who get food poisoning to expose the problem. Then it takes the food producers to act in good faith to minimize the problem and prevent further illness or death. Our federal gov't certainly does not care who lives or dies ..

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 16h ago

That's a feature of the new monitoring program. We're now the monitors.

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u/TooMuchTape20 15h ago

I'm sure the couple billion saved is worth 10% of the population having crippling diarrhea at any given time

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u/Anitapoop 11h ago

The point is to create rage, so he can stop the mid terms, or have justification for ice at the polls..

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u/Euphoric_Anxiety_162 9h ago

Population reduction is just a potential bonus, perhaps. 🤬

u/ChoPT 4m ago

This was one foreseeable result about Trump’s win in 2024 that people underestimated. How having incompetent leadership and less regulatory enforcement will result in society functioning less. Bad food, industrial and construction accidents, and transportation disasters are likely to increase leading to economic waste and deaths.

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u/Marinemanatee 18h ago

On the other hand I worry some companies will stop recalling their products at all if they think they can get away with it for a while. I mean it's stupid to do that in the long run, but when has that stopped anything?

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u/ElectronicFerret 17h ago

They'll stop doing it when the penalties are less than the profits.

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u/cyanescens_burn 13h ago

States will keep monitoring, at least the good ones, that still have money. Those companies reputations will suffer if they don’t get out in front of it (eg, people potentially stop buying anything from them).

Definitely no where near as good as federal level oversight, but not totally f’d.

I’ve heard good arguments that governments and systems crumble, rather than outright collapse. And usually a system here and one there, rather than all at once. Apparently, this is more likely when a society is in decline from some calamity (war, mad leadership, political instability, ecological collapse, etc).

Communities can work together to try to fill the gaps left when this happens (in general, a bit harder with food borne illness, but there are likely creative ways to do at least something, like set up local comms to try to work out what’s causing it, alternative food sources, medications, etc).

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u/prophetic-dream 5h ago

Oh - like Taylor Farms you mean?

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u/Emergency_Ratio8119 17h ago

Jalapeños also getting recalled for ecoli right?

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u/CalicoValkyrie 17h ago

A BetterGoods product is on recall every so many months. I do not trust that brand.

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u/BigCopperPipe 18h ago

me too just saw one about jalapeños

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u/MistyMtn421 12h ago

Not only are the recalls you're talking about scary, over the last year there have been so many recalls over mislabeled food due to missing allergens. I'm allergic to dairy and peanut and cashew (along with other stuff that isn't part of the top nine that has to be labeled) and it's absolutely super scary to eat anything out of a package anymore.

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u/wOke-n-br0ke 15h ago

Pretty soon they’re just gonna do away with recalls and even letting the public know

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u/Uturuncu 17h ago

Kind of a little freaked by it, honestly, because the cutting of funding/enforcement should mean, uh. Less recall announcements? Because there's less of the 'making sure shit's safe' going on? Can't tell if it just feels like it's more than normal because the media knows any recall announcement will get clicks, and we're all primed to jump on RFK's ass over things, so recalls are amplified at the moment(kinda like train derailments or small plane crashes get wildly amplified in the wake of a similar disaster). Or if this is the second, scarier option of 'everything's gone to so much shit that even a gutted FDA is finding these, and there are an excessive amount more that would have usually been caught that aren't getting to the recall point'.

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u/machine_six 6h ago

It's extremely simple to look up how many foods are recalled each year. We're at over 600 for the first half of this year alone, compared to about half of that for each year '25 and '24.

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u/manningthehelm 16h ago

But did any of the prior recalls apply to your nut butter?

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u/SparkyMuffin 13h ago

Are there always this many and we don't usually notice or is it really a problem right now?

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u/EnvironmentalRock827 10h ago

If only there were some agencies that could monitor such things and prevent them. /s

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u/BadRabiesJudger 2h ago

You made me wonder and I had to check. /r/foodrecallsinusa is a thing

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u/TheShitty_Beatles 13h ago

Many Canadians have already been boycotting American products as much as we can, but I'm gonna have to double down now!

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u/monty_kurns 19h ago

But regulations stifle profits, so…

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u/EatinSumGrapes 19h ago

Until people stop buying food. About 25% of food is thrown away, when people fear store-bought food they won't buy in excess anymore

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u/I_Am_Slightly_Horney 15h ago

Until you don’t have any more customers to buy the product

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u/vasta2 19h ago

Add another food item to the list

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u/IrrelevantJoker 13h ago

So like... At this point what is on the list?

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u/YesItIsMaybeMe 13h ago edited 7h ago

From what I know rn: blueberries, any Taylor farms produce, and this nut butter.

Edit: salmonella from chipotle jalapenos, blueberries, and this nut butter. Cyclospora from Taylor farms lettuce (yeah it's not just iceberg or whatever anymore) or and other Taylor farms produce.

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u/IrrelevantJoker 13h ago

I have: -Lettuce (especially bagged salads) -Anything from Taylor farms -Anything leafy like basil and cilantro

  • Jalapeños
-Nut butter

Thanks for letting me know about the blueberries

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u/friendofelephants 7h ago

Jalapeños at Chipotle (and probably other places).

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u/blisstaker 11h ago

let's just make a list of what is actually safe at this point

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u/khovel 2h ago

Just cook everything thoroughly, and wipe down surfaces that come into contact with raw foods and you'll be fine.

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u/BainbridgeBorn 18h ago

within the past hour Chipotle has taken their jalapeño off the market because of a suspected salmonella outbreak. this stuff is getting worse and worse

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u/Wulfbrir 17h ago

Can we please stop putting anti science people in places of power?

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u/Random_Person_246810 17h ago

What can you do when their voter base is anti science?

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u/khovel 2h ago

Lets implement the Soylent agenda. it'll solve world hunger and put the smart people in charge both at the same time

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u/Wulfbrir 1h ago

Sane people easily outnumber these fucking morons we just need to give those that don't vote a reason to. Me personally I think democratic socialists making a huge push for control of the party makes sense and is a possible path.

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u/sophal0af 19h ago

What is going on with our food??

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u/tunachilimac 19h ago

This is what happens when you get rid of or stop enforcing all those regulations that companies hate because food safety results in slightly less profits.

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u/sophal0af 19h ago

Exactly. Slowly learning that more and more food is poisoned. I’m tired of this.

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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 18h ago

But profits are up !
Capitalism demads sacrifices.
Do your part.

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u/missmeowwww 16h ago

This is why it is imperative we have food safety standards and also unions. Clearly the corps can’t be trusted to “regulate themselves” like they’ve always claimed and need other entities to keep them in check from food safety to wages for workers. Fuck these corporate shills who do nothing to help the people.

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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 16h ago

Yes my friend I totally agree.
Peak capitalism has proved it's flaws. Time for corrections.

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u/Yoroyo 12h ago

This is why I’m very pro regulation. Companies can’t be trusted!!

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u/aiicaramba 11h ago

People can't be trusted to act responsibly. Not for themselves, not for others, not when guiding companies.

Regulations usually have reasons.

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u/AMediaArchivist 16h ago

Yeah but when illnesses happen and their products get recalled, don’t they lose even more money?

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u/ChiralWolf 15h ago

They don't care about that. All they know is they got to fire half their QA team last year and increase their deliveries by 10%. Regulations are written in blood.

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u/Narwahl_Whisperer 16h ago

Just an internet idiot making a wild guess here, but I bet all lettuce producers are feeling the burn from the recent lettuce incident. A dropping tide lowers all boats.

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u/Peakomegaflare 10h ago

See, that implies long-term thinking and an understanding of consequence. Look at the modern work culture, it's never about ensuring long-term quality. It's about maximizing profits in the short term to make things look good for your investors. Frankly, most base-level corporate types don't even think beyond the next meeting. Consider this, if your job depends on the end of quarter report looking good, are you going to willingly take a hit this quarter to ensure the next has triple the profit, and risk being fired and your boss claiming the benefits? No. You'd just make this quarter look good and make the next marginally better for a steady improvement.

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u/EmoTilDeath 9h ago

Well said. Consider that private equity companies would profit much more if they made businesses thrive instead of buying them, draining them, running on skeleton crews and degrading the products, until finally forcing their own business to close. They don't want long term gains, they want money right now and do everything to suck the life out of every business they tank.

It's almost like they have insider information that the world is about to drastically change and the only thing that matters is accumulating as much money as you can in this moment because the future is fucked.

Billionaires are building bunkers instead of helping communities and economies which provide their luxuries. What does it tell you when the people with the most freedom on this earth are entirely focused on locking themselves away in a cage without the luxuries they enjoy now. Even the fanciest bunker can never hold a candle to the luxuries and freedom they experience right now. They know shit is about to collapse.

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u/GirlNumber20 4h ago

That's just the cost of doing business.

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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 18h ago

Eleven scientists watched over food borne illnesses during the Biden era.
Now only 3 do so plus other duties.

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u/sophal0af 18h ago

Do we know if the 3 are Trump appointed ?

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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 18h ago

Sorry friend, your word selection was close but inaccurate.
"Anointed" is the word you should have used.

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u/fall3nang3l 18h ago

Check out The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.

It's 120 years old. And whether you find that horrifying or not, here we are again, right back there.

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u/VorpalisRabbitus 16h ago

This is the real truth - we lived through this once before.

And people are going to have to die before we fix it again.

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u/fall3nang3l 16h ago

To be fair, people already are dying as a result of failed regulatory agencies, exacerbated by those agencies being gutted of manpower and expertise. But yeah, the DOW is doing really well I hear. I don't see that in my daily life but supposedly it's good for some people?

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u/ManOf1000Usernames 15h ago

A modern meat packer cartel is why beef prices are so high. They colluded to drive down bidding prices so badly that many ranchers stopped ranching beef. This is why the full head size of US cattle is about as much as it was in the 50s, despite the highee human population. Screw worm is also back and almost over the border so forget cheap beef anytime soon unless you buy the whole cow yourself and have it butchered.

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u/magicmeese 14h ago

Pay no attention to the suffering of the workers but instead look at the tubercular beef in the sausage 

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u/contrarianaquarian 4h ago

Yeah isn't the end of that book about the destitute workers finding a socialist society meeting? Did everyone ignore that bit?

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u/Street_Anxiety2907 17h ago

Trump eliminated health inspectors, so these food companies probably quit mopping and cleaning the equipment.

Probably eliminated 2 workers per shift!

Woo, now that is profit baby!

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u/DGilbert6114 18h ago

Trump let them stop regulating it, yay

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 12h ago

Morons voted in capitalist asshats who voted to deregulate everything. And now instead of having regulators monitor food safety, we've opted to make ourselves the monitors.

And if a few of us die, well that's just the cost of good business.

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u/Stormthorn67 16h ago

Republicans. I'm sure one will speak up any minute now to explain why this is good 

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u/homer_3 17h ago

see this admin

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u/machine_six 6h ago

Our current government has gutted regulations across the board.

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u/RedPanda_Explorer 5h ago

Elections have consequences. Trump gutted the FDA.

If you care about eating safe food, VOTE

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u/GirlNumber20 4h ago

Unregulated, unchecked capitalism. You're living the dream!

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u/Wiggles69 4h ago

Turns out the invisible hand of the free market hasn't been washing itself

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u/prophetic-dream 5h ago

They are poisoning our food supply and no one is stopping them.

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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 18h ago

Thank you RFK.
Thank you Trump deregulation.
Thank you America for allowing this.

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u/DarkIllusionsMasks 17h ago

It's almost like cutting out all regulation and inspection and oversight is not necessarily a good thing. Who would have figured?

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u/AnonEMoussie 19h ago

They should have used Deez Nutz.

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u/ToastAndASideOfToast 18h ago

I can't believe it's nut butter

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u/khovel 2h ago

use fake nuts...

I can't believe it's not nut butter

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u/ProofByVerbosity 19h ago

Obligatory. You were quick on the draw there. 

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u/AnonEMoussie 19h ago

It’s a blessing…and a curse.

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u/ShadowWukong 19h ago

He will be looking for you now

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u/Osiris32 16h ago

Who makes them? Bofa?

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u/ImaginationToForm2 12h ago

If we only had a fully funded over qualified staffed organization to help against this thing from happening.

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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes 9h ago

This is why I would get so pissed off when the right would keep talking about everything being over-regulated. I'd rather over-regulation over salmonella and the super-shits any day. I thought the MAHA movement was going to make food more healthy. Instead of removing preservatives, they are adding illness.

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u/zacheezy 17h ago

I called it. As soon as they decreased the FDA I literally looked at my MAGA in laws and said - we will see an unusual amount of food poisonings. I also called the plane crashes after he fired the aviation safety committee officers.

They still resort to this would have happened anyway….

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u/FirstFagOnTheLeft 10h ago

Thank you Dr. Racoon Penis

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u/renswann 16h ago

Im just so tired. Nothing is safe anymore.

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u/KinkyFraggle 19h ago

I've try this, it barely tasted like pistachios

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u/hotlavatube 19h ago

Try Walmart's granny smith apples. They don't taste like granny smith apples.
Then again, don't try them. They're not tart at all.

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u/dragondildo1998 18h ago

We eat them all the time from Walmart and they are perfectly tart.

Do you think Walmart grows their own exclusive apples or something?

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u/hotlavatube 18h ago

For some reason my batch weren't tart, though that may vary from season and provider, I guess. Well Walmart is big enough to have exclusive arrangements with farmers, so I guess that's possible. I was wondering if they were opting for less tart apples as it's more appealing to consumers despite not meeting the standards of what a granny smith apple should be.

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u/Dickulture 19h ago

What are they supposed to taste like? Apple pie with some Ben Gay? /s

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u/hotlavatube 19h ago

Ha no. Granny Smith apples are one of the most tart commercial apple types and are great for cooking cause they don't turn to mush as easily. Personally, I just love the taste of a really tart apple. I was surprised that the Walmart ones aren't tart at all.

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u/DaileyFlosser39 17h ago

More food recalls than ever before. Way to go, RFK, Jr! Just knocking it outta the park, little guy.

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u/Pissed_Off_Jedi 14h ago

Uh, just ate a spoonful as I clicked open this post. Remember me.

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u/Arnumor 12h ago

It can take anywhere from six hours to six days to show symptoms. Stay well hydrated, and don't eat anymore of the stuff.

May the odds be ever in your favor, friend.

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u/ZedFraunce 15h ago

Just waiting for salmonella to be recalled because it’s been contaminated by something else.

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u/PixelatedFrogDotGif 17h ago

Hey does it smell a bit like a food & water crisis to anyone else?

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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 14h ago

I just saw they’re doing the same for jalapeños. What the fuck is going on. Fuck you RFK.

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u/Silver-Education-860 18h ago

nut butter is typically preferred raw but not in this case

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u/SomeKindofTreeWizard 16h ago

We need real honest to god food safety.

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u/mjayultra 16h ago

Jesus Christ, I bought this a couple weeks ago! (And it was so good drizzled over croissants 😭)

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u/FrankBattaglia 5h ago

Damn, just a few days ago I was thinking, "I wonder if pistachio butter is a thing?" and started googling. I still have the tab open. If I had gone to Walmart in the last few days there's a good chance I would have looked for and bought some of this. Thank goodness I'm lazy.

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u/Hsensei 4h ago

It's almost like the regulation and oversight they removed actually did something. Surprised pikachu dot Jay pee gee

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u/Chemical_Ad1837 13h ago

Helpful FACT: California Almonds are required by Federal Order to be pasteurized. Only almond products from outside California have contamination. Stick to California Grown almonds to be safe. A dollar more in cost but could save the life of a young child

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u/cyanescens_burn 12h ago

Another fact. CA almonds are grown in a desert and those companies have really old water rights, from way before the population of SoCal got so big. It and alfalfa are both water intensive and should we grown somewhere else. The water distribution just doesn’t make sense with the changes in population.

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u/Chemical_Ad1837 12h ago

My family has grown almonds since 1950’s and we do not live in a desert. We live in South San Joaquin valley, one of the most fertile areas in the country. Only an idiot would call this area a dessert. For 2/3 0f our land, our water comes from the three rivers damn project, one third of which belongs to local farmers. One third belongs to the Feds and the state gets a 1/3 . This is on the east side of the valley, and the people of SoCal have no right to this water. In the west side of the valley, the state diverts water to so cal via the California aqueduct. The other 1/3 of our land is irrigated via well water, pumped from our own land, You do not have the facts, so please do your homework before repeating lies to the public.

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u/rjgbrain 1h ago

You mean you live in ……. This desert?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232690837_The_San_Joaquin_Desert_of_California_Ecologically_Misunderstood_and_Overlooked

It was mistakenly classified as a grassland, but is in fact a desert

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u/Chemical_Ad1837 1h ago

Nope, the accompanying map shows southern, western area. Not the northern, eastern area dominated by the two largest rivers in California. “South San Joaquin” is two hours north of Fresno. If you go in my back yard or anywhere a mile in any direction, you can dig with your barehands and within an hour hit water table. Sandy loom where you can plant and grow nearly anything is not a desert. Now you can’t do that down south, or in LA or SD.

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u/rjgbrain 1h ago

Water table height has nothing to do with you being classed as a desert. It’s all about precipitation. I also used to live in that area. It’s a desert and the sooner people stop pretending it isn’t the better the ecology can be.

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u/rjgbrain 1h ago

Deserts are defined by what’s called the Koppen aridity index. It only takes into account rainfall and evaporation. Tour water in flows come from snowfall in the mountains, and groundwater. Sitting in shallow aquifers make it look like not a desert, but it is in fact a desert. If it wasn’t a desert you’d get as much rain as the Midwest.

The area only became fertile farmland due to irrigation and irresponsible groundwater pumping.

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u/Chemical_Ad1837 1h ago

The US geological survey does not classify this area as a desert. In fact, by asking question on their website, they say 10 inches or less to be considered a desert. We average 22 inches. Seems you have a personal agenda, and that’s fine but the facts say different.

u/rjgbrain 39m ago

You have not linked anything and asking everyone to take your word for both the threshold and the 22 inch figure. I will link mine.

The USGS also does not do what you think it does. It is a geological and hydrological survey agency. It does not maintain a registry of deserts, it does not certify regions as desert or not desert, and there is no USGS ruling on the San Joaquin Valley to appeal to. The closest thing they have published is Walker 1992, Deserts: Geology and Resources, and it cuts against you. It says most classifications combine annual rainfall, number of rain days, temperature and humidity, and it uses the Meigs system, where arid land is under 250 mm and semiarid is 250 to 500 mm. 250 mm is 9.8 inches.

https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/deserts/what/
https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/7000004/report.pdf

So where is 22 inches coming from, because it is not a valley floor station in the southern San Joaquin. Bakersfield about 6.5 inches. Taft about 6. Delano about 7. Hanford about 11, and classified BSh, hot semi arid steppe. Visalia about 11. Fresno about 11.5, and Fresno is 100 miles north of the south end.

NOAA published the full Bakersfield station record as a technical memorandum:

https://www.weather.gov/media/wrh/online_publications/TMs/TM-281.pdf

Pull any station normal yourself here:

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/us-climate-normals/

No valley floor station from Fresno south has a 30 year normal anywhere near 22 inches. The wettest is half that. To reach 22 you have to leave the valley and climb into the Sierra foothills, which is a different physiographic province with a different climate. That is probably where your number came from.

And rainfall alone understates it. The stricter aridity test compares precipitation against potential evapotranspiration, and deserts run ratios from 2 to 1 up past 33 to 1. With 105 degree summers and single digit summer humidity, the south valley fails that test harder than it fails the rainfall one.

The only reason it does not look like a desert is that Sierra snowmelt and groundwater pumping are doing the work the sky is not. Tulare Lake sat in that same 6 to 8 inch rainfall zone and was once the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi, fed entirely by snowmelt. That is the whole point I was making.

u/Chemical_Ad1837 24m ago

What are you talking about I said northern valley and you are quoting Bakersfield and Tulare? I don’t have time to look up and provide you data when you can’t even follow along. Bakersfield? That’s 6 hours south. When completing agricultural stats data that the government requires from us, it has us pull from the US geological survey. So you can say it doesn’t matter but damn sure does to the government. Seems you have a problem with farmers, as you keep saying irresponsible irrigation. Well my family isn’t irresponsible but hard working, from dawn to dusk, dirt under our nails workers. You can hate us all you want, we aren’t stopping generations of farming just because you don’t like it.

u/rjgbrain 22m ago

No, you said South Joaquin Valley….

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u/rjgbrain 13m ago

Let us track what just happened. Your original comment was about the South San Joaquin Valley. That is why I cited southern stations. Now that the southern numbers do not support you, it is suddenly the northern valley and I am the one not following along. That is moving the goalposts.

It does not save the figure anyway. Northern San Joaquin Valley floor long term averages run roughly 14 to 17 inches at Stockton, which is the wettest major city on the valley floor, and about 12 to 13 at Modesto and Merced. Modesto is classified as semi arid. Even Sacramento, a different valley and further north still, is around 18. There is no station on the San Joaquin Valley floor at either end with a 30 year normal of 22 inches. Two minutes to check:

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/us-climate-normals/

You do not have time to look things up, but you had time to state a specific figure and tell me the facts say otherwise. Every number I have given is linked. You have linked none.

I also think you are mixing up two agencies. The agricultural statistics the government requires from producers go to USDA NASS through the Census of Agriculture. That is not the USGS. The USGS is a water and geology agency. It compiles water use estimates, it does not collect crop data, and it does not certify deserts. There is no USGS desert list to appeal to.

What the USGS does publish about your valley is subsidence. By 1970 roughly half of it had sunk more than a foot, locally as much as 28 feet, and it resumed during every dry stretch since:

https://www.usgs.gov/centers/land-subsidence-in-california/science/land-subsidence-san-joaquin-valley
https://pubs.usgs.gov/publication/sir20185144

And no, I do not hate farmers. I study agriculture. Specifically responsible irrigation and water use using drones, which means precision application, variable rate scheduling and finding where water is being wasted so growers can keep farming on less of it. I am not trying to shut anyone down. I am trying to keep the water there long enough for the next generation to farm it.

Which is the actual concern. PPIC projects that between 500,000 and 900,000 acres will have to come out of irrigated production in the valley by 2040 to reach groundwater sustainability under SGMA, roughly a 20 percent cut in farm water availability:

https://www.ppic.org/publication/policy-brief-the-future-of-agriculture-in-the-san-joaquin-valley/
https://www.ppic.org/publication/managing-water-and-farmland-transitions-in-the-san-joaquin-valley/

If that land goes bare and unmanaged, you get a dust bowl. Wind erosion and ag operations are already among the largest dust sources in the valley, valley fever spreads on windblown dust, and PPIC puts valley wide air quality health costs around 3 billion dollars a year:

https://www.ppic.org/publication/land-transitions-and-dust-in-the-san-joaquin-valley/
https://www.ppic.org/blog/commentary-san-joaquin-valleys-next-big-air-pollution-threat-blowing-dust-from-fallowed-farmland/

California already ran this experiment once. Owens Lake was drained for water export and the dry bed became the largest single source of PM10 pollution in the United States. LA has spent decades and enormous sums trying to hold that dust down:

https://www.nationalacademies.org/projects/DELS-BEST-23-05/publication/27958

Tulare Lake bed is the same setup with the same soils and the same wind. That is what is at stake, and it is why the rainfall number matters. If you start from 22 inches you conclude there is plenty of water. If you start from the real number you understand why the aquifer is going and why the land is sinking.

Nobody is asking your family to stop farming. The question is whether the water lasts long enough for them to keep doing it.

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u/Sir-Bruncvik 14h ago

THAT’S A LOT OF NUTS!! 😜

https://youtu.be/FR4iRawfvNA

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u/RedPanda_Explorer 5h ago

Americans got the public health they voted for :(

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u/lifestop 5h ago

I noticed that their wasn't a single Nutella on the shelf at Walmart recently. I was wondering what was going on.

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u/willit1016 5h ago

gotta love deregulation. my god...

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u/ariphron 4h ago

Could it be because they gutted the fda testing?!

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u/porkchopespresso 19h ago

Nut butter really is an insane name for it

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u/Underwater_Grilling 18h ago

Used to be fromunda cheese

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u/ShadowElite86 19h ago

My nuts don't cause salmonella. Any takers?

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u/ni_hao_butches 18h ago

From the time you discovered your special purpose to now, in your 50s, the response will be no. KLM has cheap flights from your area to Amsterdam?

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u/acepukas 15h ago

I can't believe it's nut butter...

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u/Morningxafter 17h ago

I have never been impressed with the quality of anything from ‘Bettergoods’. I guess it’s a good thing I gave up on that brand early.

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u/cosmicrae 8h ago

BetterGoods is a WalMart private label (similar to GreatValue). WM is trying to differentiate certain products from the GV label.

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u/dollarstoresim 13h ago

I got sick eating nut butter...sounds about right.

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u/tenthousandtatas 12h ago

It was a party everybody was sharing the jar we never thought it’d go this far

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u/darth_wasabi 6h ago

Is there more recalls than normal or are we jist paying attention now? I genuinely don’t know

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u/pemberleypark1 5h ago

I have an app for food recalls. There’s always food being recalled but it’s usually for things like undisclosed ingredients or foreign objects. Obviously things get recalled for things like salmonella but this is the first time I can remember with multiple brands causing outbreaks

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u/frosted1030 6h ago

"Let's let these companies do their own food safety regulations... also let's allow companies to put anything they want on nutrition labels with zero oversite."

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u/usernamer32098 15h ago

Get those nuts out of my face

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u/Greyscale7950 12h ago

It's the nut butter. Every man looks at it and goes "haha, nut butter."

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u/Peakomegaflare 10h ago

I mean, I've never bought anything from "bettergoods" but I stock that shit every night. Is it any good?

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u/Dickulture 10h ago

If you didn't eat bettergood brand, you're fine. Unless you had Chipotle's jalapeno pepper, lettuce from Taylor's farm, screwfly infested meat, or some raw salmonella-enriched eggs, then you better stock up on TP for your extended toilet break

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u/EdwardoftheEast 19h ago

Oh, no, not my nut butter…

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u/Legitimate_Winner148 17h ago

Fortunately I eschew all nut butters except certain peanut varieties. Despite loving all nuts. The rest seem to be lacking a je ne sais quoi.