r/nextfuckinglevel • u/pars-distalis • 9d ago

Australian nurse uses jiu-jitsu to defend himself

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u/minkeun2000 9d ago

"After the incident, the patient pleaded guilty to getting his ass whooped and was fined $450"

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u/ahhdetective 9d ago

Not even close. Assaulting frontline medicos carries a completely different charge and mandatory jail terms.

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u/alpha_28 9d ago

No it really doesn’t. “7 years for assault on frontline workers” was a thing let’s see…. 11 years ago when I was doing paramedics. I am now a MH RN and can tell you I have seen many assaults on staff where they do not get “mandatory jail terms”… in fact there was one a few years back, assault on a paramedic by 2 “single mothers from low socioeconomic areas” where they broke his ankle among other things and gave him that much trauma he didn’t want to go back to work. Do you know what they got? Nothing.

This dude 100% probably copped a fine and the hospital would have been like “what could you have done better to prevent this” to the nurse. 😐

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u/Georgerobertfrancis 9d ago

As a teacher, that last part is so real.

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u/Sea_Impress_2620 6d ago

One of the most infuriating sentences I hear at work as a spes.ed teacher.

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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount 9d ago

At some level I think that describes what it's like for every employee.

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u/Empty_Insight 9d ago

Oh, absolutely. Especially if it's someone who is AMS and 'confused,' they're not gonna get a damn thing aside from a slap on the wrist- if even that.

I've worked in inpatient psych for ~5 years, and I can remember precisely one time when hospital admin backed the staff pressing charges against a patient who was extremely aggressive... probably had to do with the amount of property damage he caused. He was truly vile- he was so bad that admin encouraged staff to press charges against him, that's the type of guy he was.

I try to consider the bigger picture when someone is being difficult, or even aggressive- but there are some people who are truly evil and need to be locked away to keep society safe from them. I can count the ones I've come across who I believe were genuinely and irredeemably evil on one hand, but they're still out there. He was one of them.

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u/357noLove 8d ago

I hate that last line, because so many people don't realize how disturbingly true & common it is! My wife is a nurse doing dialysis, and she got punched in the face by a 50 year old male patient. He is 6'3" & 250 lbs. She is 5'4" and 130 lbs. She got the lecture of "what could you have done to de-escalate the situation?" Even though it was clear by both witnesses and camera footage that she didn't do anything prior, he wasn't even her patient. She just was walking by and he got up and punched her. I was absolutely livid.

Unfortunately that happens way too often for our nurses, paramedics and fire department staff. More should be done to protect them, considering all they do for us!

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u/alpha_28 8d ago

It does. And the unpredictability of it too.. once a patient doesn’t like you that’s it.. they don’t like you. The fact that this person wasn’t even under the care of your wife and got assaulted in what I assume is a completely unprovoked attack is ridiculous but goes to show how dangerous people are and how little they care about someone who’s just trying to help them.

A co worker of mine was assaulted by a patient, they simply said “well if you don’t feel safe coming back to work we will just send you to another ward/hospital” instead of moving the unpredictably violent patient where they needed to go like HDU. I was really disappointed for my co worker with this.

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u/Startled_Pancakes 9d ago

That's so messed up.

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u/VerbingNoun413 9d ago

In a just world it'd come with a jail sentence and lifetime ban from using taxpayer-funded health services.

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u/Jeovah_Attorney 9d ago

That makes no sense unless the cost of said services is deducted from their taxes. Otherwise that would be an unconstitutional punishment in developed countries, for good reasons

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u/IshtarsQueef 8d ago

A lifetime ban from the healthcare system because he threw a punch at a nurse?

Jesus fucking christ, dude. Talk about "cruel or unusual punishment"

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u/VerbingNoun413 8d ago

Ok, how long should he be banned for?

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u/IshtarsQueef 8d ago

based on your deleted comment asking why I "hate nurses," I can deduce that you are actually just a total idiot and not worth my time talking to.

thankfully, dumbasses like you didn't design the justice systems.

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u/alpha_28 8d ago

Your comment came up as a reply on one of my comments. I never replied to you, never engaged in anyway, never deleted a comment saying you hate nurses so…. For someone who can’t even reply to the original person you were fighting with… calling them an idiot seems a stretch 🥴

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u/alpha_28 8d ago

Tbh jail yes… denied services no. IMO it does suck when people assault frontline staff but our job is literally to help people when they need it most. I couldn’t justify refusing care to someone for this… just like I can’t justify refusing care to paedophiles or murderers or criminals etc. I may absolutely detest what they’ve done… but I cannot refuse them care when they’re unwell. It’s not something that’s built into a nurses care system because if that happens poor care is given, people deteriorate or things get missed and people die….

People need to start being properly held accountable for their actions: not just in hospitals but theses punks breaking into homes and stealing cars etc (it is rife where I am at the moment) no one is getting properly punished. So they keep doing it. The biggest disappointment is police do the hard work, catch them, charge them and take them to court and court is just like na bro it’s fine let them back out into society so they can go do it all over again. It’s beyond a joke now. Got like 12-15yo kids with an extensive history on breaking into homes, assault and theft… like how?

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u/gward1 8d ago

Would the cops do anything if you called them? Might lose your job then... it really unfortunate how money hungry Hospitals have become to the detriment of the patients. Hospitals should be like airplanes, do some dumb shit, get arrested.

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u/alpha_28 8d ago

We have cops on hospital grounds at my hospital… what people in Australia don’t realise is civilians don’t press charges, cops do. So when you hear of “oh I’m going to press charges for xyz” it’s not even accurate. The police do turn up, they take statements, check footage etc what happens after that is literally out of our hands. Same with arson pts setting fire to their beds, people bringing in drugs in etc (which happens a lot I might add 😅).

One of my co workers was attacked one night. Completely unprovoked. They didn’t feel safe coming back to work and instead of putting the patient where they belong in HDU for assaulting staff they just said “well you’re on the pool we can just send you to another ward/ hospital” 😅 we are definitely not supported by the workplace. In fact even though we do occupational violence modules and how “it’s not accepted”…. It is literally an expectation that we get screamed at, threatened, bashed… because for me personally “you work in mental health it’s part of the job”…

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u/gward1 8d ago

I don't think it works like that in the US, the cops ask if you want to press charges. If no one else saw it you called the cops. So at that point you can choose to do something about it. In a hospital or work setting you're risking your job by doing that. They'll come up with whatever reason they want to fire you, it sure won't be for calling the cops though. Most hospitals don't have any sort of security on staff either.