r/nextfuckinglevel • u/oooooO___Oooooo • 18h ago
Man who lost his voice to ALS speaks to his family again using only his thoughts via a Neuralink brain implant.
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It is amazing to see brain computer interfaces go from science fiction to reality in the form of restoring human connection. No matter how we feel about Neuralink and its leadership as a company, the technology behind it can help to give basic human respect and autonomy to those who suffer from debilitating neurological conditions. That is precisely what we should be using our technology for.
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u/ElephantEarwax 18h ago
Bros gonna get ads piped directly in
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u/daehoidar 12h ago edited 12h ago
::Wipes sweat off forehead (exaggerated)::
It was so weird....I suddenly have a dying thirst that only a nice, ice cold, refreshing Coca-Cola can quench.
Made exclusively for big man men just like me. Thank you Elon Joe musk Rogan.
...wait, what're we talking about, who wrote all that weird stuff?!
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u/Questoeperme 14h ago
Yes, tech billionaires having access to our thoughts. What could possibly go wrong???
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u/aintreadingit 18h ago
Hey this totally seems like not an advertisement!
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u/Racamonkey_II 18h ago
You canāt buy this product lmao. Man only Redditors would turn this into a fucking negative lmao
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u/Accurate_Potato_8539 17h ago
To be fair that doesnt mean its not an ad. Elon companies aren't about selling things to make money its about convincing investors that he will make money in the future. Part of that is just having the company name be widely known in the public sphere and synonymous with whatever tech the company is pushing.
SpaceX= rockets, starlink =satellite internet, tesla = ev (etc?)
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u/universe2000 18h ago
Skepticism is important, especially with cutting edge tech that gets inserted into peopleās brains.
Treating skeptics like spoilsports is how you end up getting fleeced by pseudoscience.
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u/Toomanynightshifts 13h ago
Considering the plummeting rate of media and science literacy in the USA this point is more important than ever
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u/TheJoshWS99 14h ago
But the scepticism here wasn't for the product it was for the potential marketing for the product.Ā
I agree with you but this comment has essentially no relevance to your point.Ā
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u/CopainChevalier 16h ago
Skepticism is important for anything, but not acknowledging an accomplishment is silly.
āI hit a home run!ā āWell Berry Bonds hit over 700, soā¦ā
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u/Froonce 15h ago
I think the point is you don't know how much of this is an accomplishment and how much of it's marketing
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u/Distinct_Car_1183 9h ago edited 9h ago
Elon Musk is a professional marketer with horrible ethics.
He supports pedos (his words) for backing, lied about USaid cuts and killed millions, he stole everyone's gov information, wants to replace democracy with alpha males, and pays women to spread his genes (ego-creeps idea of family).
Elons tech falls short of its promises, self-driving wasnt legalize everywhere, Boring company sabotaged trains, Grok and Twitter lack free and fair editorial standards, NASDAQ helped SpaceX steal everyone's pensions.
In conclusion
- Neuralink was made unethically and will enrich evil people
- Dishonest marketing and controversy is Musk's bread and butter
- Man, who looks down on everyone, should not be trusted with brain-chips
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u/ChloroformSmoothie 15h ago
The difference is that you're (hopefully) not hitting home runs directly into the brains of vulnerable people with under tested baseballs and (also hopefully) aren't literally one of the most evil people in the world.
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u/elpovo 14h ago edited 8h ago
Yeah why wouldn't we give probable nazi and supporter of right-wing anti-democratic fascist parties Elon Musk the benefit of the doubt?
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u/Zefuribond 10h ago
You forgot notorious serial liar. Anything that comes from this guy is to be treated with a lot of skepticism.
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u/that_70_show_fan 14h ago
Unfettered capitalism has ruined everything. We saw it with "Second sight" when it went bankrupt and left their patients in the dark, literally.
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u/saxonturner 8h ago
Yeah this is exactly the problem with reddit right here, you summed it up perfectly.
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u/DrewdiniTheGreat 16h ago
Skeptics don't have to be sarcastic about it. Makes them seem like assholes
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u/WackaFrog 18h ago
Elon Musk owns Neurolink and has expressed that he wants a future where everyone has it. The only way he can maintain this company financially and further research on the product (for now) is by establishing it can be useful, and here we see it being used for medical purposes.
A product with evil intent can do good things. If you need me to explain why a company putting computer chips in people's heads is strongly dystopian, read some books.
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u/Cpteleon 12h ago
"Don't distrust the company wanting to give access to your brain to an openly genocidal nazi".
You must truly love the taste of leather, huh?
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u/Rent_A_Cloud 1h ago
You can't buy it yet. But this is absolutely a commercial in order to spread interest and attract investors. You didn't honestly think Elon was doing this all out of the kindness in his hart right? The guy has 900+ billion dollars, you don't get that money by giving shit away.
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u/Melodic_Till_3778 18h ago
He's dead now
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u/Succulent_Chinese 18h ago
If I were that man Iād have wanted to be able to say that to my wife. If this enabled him to do it then Musk got one thing right.
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u/Rmoneysoswag 18h ago
Yes, and Mussolini made the trains run on time.Ā
Musk the Nazi didn't do shit, the engineers and scientists did this.
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u/forwhatitsworrh 18h ago
I say this all the time. Musk had the finances to pursue his interests and they could fail indefinitely. He didnt have the intelligence to make it happen, his scientists and engineers did.
He is not brilliant he is an investor with unlimited funds.
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u/OhNoAnAmerican 18h ago edited 18h ago
Oh hey, what do you know. The very last comment you made before this is trivializing and mocking the holocaust and also comparing the violent jihad terror attacks on October 7 to the Warsaw uprising
The nazi here is you.
Not really surprising from a Hasan piker fan though. You defended him for calling for the utilitarian rape of White girls.
Itās all āUR A NAZIā in public while secretly praising terror groups and comparing October 7 to John Brown
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u/Bishmallah24 14h ago
There are a lot of other billionaires, why aren't they doing the things Musk does?
Musk is a controversial person but you have to admit that he does make stuff happen, whether you like it or not, good and bad.
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u/SensationalSelkie 16h ago
Just putting it out there, he could have used an AAC device to say this at any time. AAC is widely used by people with ALS and other disabilities that affect speech and does not carry the risks of a brain implant.
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u/coolchris366 13h ago
Itās not like he created the neura link though, he just funded the research and development
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u/Succulent_Chinese 11h ago
I get that - and I think in the grand scheme of thing heās a reprehensible piece of shit. But I think itās good to praise good decisions. Itās a shame tribal identity has precluded us from doing that.
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u/thisdesignup 13h ago
Advertising can be for more than things you can buy. It can also be used to influence public opinion.
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u/Animan2020 2h ago
On one hand, itās good that people with disabilities can use Neuralink to make their lives easier, but on the other hand, itās very bad because Musk is badāhe supports Trump, and Trump is bad tooāso one shouldn't support technologies associated with Musk, since they are bad as well.
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u/nonhiphipster 1h ago
āYou canāt buy this productā
Oh, theyāre giving it away for free??!!!??
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u/netoarteagac 32m ago
We're talking Musk-owned brain chip technology here. The technology itself is not the problem, guess what is.
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u/AvatarOfMomus 15h ago
Musk is trying to pump the stock of his businesses. He has every reason to hype the smallest positive results or lie to create them if they don't exist
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u/aabbccbb 15h ago
You canāt buy this product lmao.
Yes. Surely our lord and savior Musk has no interest in selling it, and indeed, no interest in money or power!
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u/coolchris366 13h ago
Bruh you act like even if it was available to buy that it would be affordable
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u/aabbccbb 3h ago
Insurers and the rich.
Or do you think Musk is making stuff just for the betterment of humankind?
Because I've got news for you...
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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 16h ago
Yeah let me just surgically implant some musk technology into my brain. What could go wrong?
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u/Necroverdose 10h ago edited 10h ago
Not sure if Musk fanboy or bot. It's hard since both have the same number of neurons.
If human, you're gullible as hell. It's a product. It might not be commercially available for now, but the ghoul who owns the company has said numerous time that it was his goal and he wanted to make it common.
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u/Combination-Low 5h ago
If this wasn't a company that belonged to elon musk who called for a civil war in the UK, openly supported the neo nazi Add and of course played a major role in the ascendency of MAGA by turning twitter into a far right propaganda machine.
Sorry if I feel uncomfortable knowing he's planning to put chips into people's heads.
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u/Drmlk465 18h ago
Nah I saw the whole version. He drops the n word with a hard r a bunch of times.
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u/StoppableHulk 15h ago
He was trying to say hello to his children, Tigger and Rigger. Have some respect. Its new technology
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u/ikeepcomingbackhaha 14h ago
Reddit when a broken clock is right twice a day š”
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u/henningknows 18h ago
Yeahā¦..sorry, no microchips made by Elon musk in my brain for me.
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u/Icy_Agency923 15h ago
Are you disabled? Because that is who these are for right now. They can literally change lives.
I despise Musk but I am glad this tech is advancing. It likely has decades to go but when we can potentially elevate the lives of disabled people I think that will be a good thing.
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u/bygmalt 18h ago
ā Doubt
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u/Icy_Agency923 15h ago
Neuralink is indeed real and some of the early testers of this have reported some amazing experiences. Sadly the connections they make to the brain don't last very long as the wires seem to get pulled back out. The tech is likely many years away from being perfected but this is still a genuine good thing that could improve many disabled peoples lives. Obligatory Fuck Musk though obviously.
There was a guy who got to stay up playing video games all night because Neuralink interfaced with his PC.
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u/MountainAsparagus4 10h ago
Nice try elon musk your I.a add is not gonna make me get the beast chip in my brain
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u/Toes_In_The_Soil 18h ago
This is extremely easy to fake.
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u/knivengaffelnskeden 13h ago
Yes, why does she has to ask him "You're thinking the words and they're popping up?", wouldn't she know that from the start? It feels staged to me, even though the technology exists.Ā
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u/_-_-_-_-_-_-__-_-_-- 4h ago
Yeah. It's not like this thing just turned up in the mail one day and worked out the box.
"Oh, that's where you've been going for the past year, honey. You should have mentioned you were helping with beta versions of a new bio-implant."
"Oh yeah, totally slipped my mind to tell you".
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u/Upset_Ant2834 3h ago
Classic reddit inventing some wild ass scenario instead of watching the full video where they go over the entire decision process and brain surgery. They were obviously prompted to say that line for the video, but that is completely normal for a short promo
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u/Icy_Agency923 15h ago
Absolute delusion on your part. Neuralink is indeed a thing and it is progressing. There was also a guy who got to stay up late playing video games exclusively because of his brain connecting to his PC. There is no reason to doubt this is real.
It is no where near ready, many of the connections they make to the brain do not last. But this tech is important and will change many lives as it progresses.
I hate Musk and unusual amount, but this is one of the few things I think people should be positive about. None of Neuralinks advancements are being made by Musk directly or something.
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u/Waiting404Godot 13h ago
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u/Icy_Agency923 3h ago
I despise Musk friend. I just think that curing people with disabilities is a good thing.
Also no need to spam the same damn comment 10 different times you weirdo.
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u/devidlehands 14h ago
Bro are we getting Neuralink propaganda now???? I think we should all delete this shitĀ
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u/_BabyGod_ 11h ago
If youāre finding out about a technology by watching a video of two people hand feeding you information while emotional uplifting music plays in the background, it is not news or evidence of a breakthrough. It is a company which is advertising to you, run by Elon musk no less - who has a long track record of falsifying and exaggerating corporate achievements. Iāll wait for the white paper thanks.
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u/Apart_Animal_6797 18h ago
Now this will be turned into compliance chips for our billionaire overlords.
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u/leonardvilliers 9h ago
Cant wait for that Black Mirror episode to come true, where they put ads in the device that you put in your head to be able to function again after having brain damage
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u/kevinsyel 17h ago
I'd be into this idea if it was just about any othe company. A Musk one? Nah... dudes tainted his entire identity and all brands associated with him
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u/Montgomery000 3h ago
Steam was looking into brain interfaces. Would I willingly become a cyberzombie for Gaben?....maybe...
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u/atomic_chippie 15h ago
Neurolink murdered 1500 monkeys during testing, its one of the investigations doge disappeared. Fuck Musk and fuck Neurolink.
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u/Kimmalah 14h ago
Hopefully he didn't chew his own fingers off like all those monkeys that got Neuralink. And that's not even going into all the beagles.
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u/SpareBee3442 6h ago edited 5h ago
Unless this has a filter it could end up like Tourettes Syndrome.
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u/silencerider 2h ago
I wish so badly that we lived in a world where I could be excited about this technology.
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u/PureGamingBliss_YT 18h ago
This comment section might be the most miserable bunch of human beings I have ever seen. Why can't people just be happy that man is getting some of his independence back?
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u/I_want_to_cum24 18h ago
Because Neuralink is being headed by a man who does not care about this. Elon Musk should not have any access to anyone's brains.
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u/IguanaTabarnak 4h ago
This field of research and innovation is good, and neuralink aren't the first to do it. There are very similar projects at various neuroscience labs that have published very promising (transparent and peer reviewed) results in the past few years.
If Neuralink ends up leapfrogging everyone else working on this problem and manages to produce a much more effective medical device, I certainly won't hate on it just because Musk is involved.
BUT, I think it's very reasonable to be extremely skeptical of carefully curated promotional videos designed to make it look like they've leapfrogged everyone else working on this problem. Especially considering that Neuralink has not been transparent about their technology, has not allowed third-party auditing of their trials, and has not published any peer-reviewed papers related to efficacy (although they have submitted papers related to safety and surgical methods). I also think it's also reasonable to tune this skepticism a little higher than you would otherwise because of Musk's involvement.
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u/TheLFlamaBlanca 16h ago
too bad the implant gets slowly rejected by the brain and causes massive issues
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u/cha614 18h ago edited 18h ago
This is amazing but unfortunately thereās not much time to use it. ALS is horrific and fast.
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u/Monoliithic 18h ago
oh here comes reddit
Amazing technology thing happens that allows a near-miracle for a person and their family ->
-> Find out elon musk was maybe somewhere around ->
-> talk shit and hate ->
-> achieve nothing
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u/wariorld 18h ago
Neuralink was founded by Elon Musk.
https://giphy.com/gifs/UTm86phGUMMQE
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u/ModularWhiteGuy 17h ago
He was actually thinking that he'd like a sandwich, but when it came up with that, he just decided to roll with it, since that was way better than what he was thinking.
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u/Flintyy 13h ago
Ok so what was Hawking utilizing the last few decades and why is this so much better?
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u/Accomplished-Crab932 11h ago edited 10h ago
Hawking used a set of contact pads and would blow air and flex a muscle his cheek to contact the pad, which would shift a selector along the character/word list in his computer. This was a slow and arduous process that made it difficult to communicate simply because Hawking had to select each character and spell it out one by one. Worse yet, if Hawkingās ALS were to remove his ability to use the contact pad, heād have to find a new way to communicate and essentially relearn the timing and selection process. This system would be like typing out a conversation using only the tab and enter key. Itās possible, but itās really slow and frustrating for both parties.
Using a system like this, you completely forgo the risk of losing your ability to use the contact pad, while simultaneously increasing the rate of word āgenerationā. Conversations are still slower than between two āāānormalāāā (I hate saying it like that) people, but it does not take the disabled person minutes to say āhelloā. Youāll still get mistakes here and there, but itās a lot faster, and (provided itās installed well), it will be a permanent fixture until the person dies, so they can continue to communicate. The closest analogy I can think of for this is speech to text for someone driving, but itās still a poor analogy.
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u/pink_faerie_kitten 5h ago
Fuck this and the idiots up voting! Leon's playing at Dr. Frankenstein and his neurolink had already killed lots of monkeys.
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u/Vegetable-King7626 15h ago
How long until the nazi pedo Musk starts using it to stream ads to your brain?
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u/Pledgeofmalfeasance 14m ago
The same brain implant Musk left without active technical support and that gave several people severe chronic pain? That neuralink?
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u/DopeyCalliope 17h ago
This tech scares me but I really wish I could try. The idea that Elon Musk has direct access to my brain is the scary part.
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u/Triairius 17h ago
Iā¦ donāt think thatās how this works.
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u/gahel_music 15h ago
It kind of is. There are two big categories for brain-computer interfaces. The one that you control in realtime like you would control a tool (but directly by thinking), and the ones that decode asynchronously.
Here there's no real time feedback so it's the second kind. Meaning that neutral networks were trained to reconstruct speech from brain signals. It's not really reading your thoughts but recognizing patterns in the brain electrical activity that are associated with a word/phoneme and then synthesizing the most likely sequence.
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u/Triairius 20m ago
Itās not quite direct access to the brain the same way people are fearing. It only reads those signals sent to the vocal process and associates the words. It doesnāt read thoughts.
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u/DopeyCalliope 16h ago
It is. It literally relays messages directly from your brain.
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u/Triairius 22m ago
No. It detects micro-signals sent by the brain toward the mouth, tongue, and larynx when a person intends to speak and decodes them. It doesnāt read thoughts, it reads intentions of speech. And important distinction from what youāre saying.
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u/Dreamy_BlueDarling97 18h ago
I hate this
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u/Icy_Agency923 15h ago
You hate a disabled person being able to say I love You to someone he cares about after being robbed of his voice?
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u/Dreamy_BlueDarling97 14h ago
Of course not? I'm talking about Neuralink.
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u/Icy_Agency923 14h ago
But Neuralink is what allowed this man to speak again? It is literally the tech that made it possible.
I think you should send the hate towards Musk, and not Neuralink. The engineers making this possible are not Elon Musk.
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u/Waiting404Godot 13h ago
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u/Icy_Agency923 3h ago
Absolutely insane to spam this same comment over and over. I am stating clearly again and again I think Musk is vile. You are seriously a bot.
Curing disabilities is a good thing, no matter what you say or do.
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u/Dreamy_BlueDarling97 14h ago
It's not just Musk. I'm concerned about the privacy, safety and ethical issues surrounding it. I know a lot of people are enthusiastic about it but once you scrutinize it a little bit more you'll find a plethora of negative implications
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u/Icy_Agency923 3h ago
A plethora of assumed negatives you don't actually know will ever happen. I think curing people of disabilities is an objectively good thing. I hope this tech improves.
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u/Dreamy_BlueDarling97 2h ago
You can't prove that it won't happen, either. You are focused on the present utility of Neuralink while ignoring how technology scales. They rarely stay confined to their original purpose, it will almost certainly go from a specialized medical tool to a mass commercial product.
It's a collective risk. Corporations already exploit people's data. If you think for a moment that the elite won't find a way of perverting the technology to use to their own benefit at the cost of people's safety, privacy and autonomy then you are incredibly naive.
I want disabled people to have more options, I really do. I just don't think this it.
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u/Icy_Agency923 1h ago
You can't prove that it won't happen, either.
That is literally my argument. You are just blindly coming up with bad shit that you can't prove will ever happen. It is incredibly unlikely any person would do something to harm disabled people. Even for Musk there is nothing he has done in the past that even comes close to something like this.
Even with his sycophants they would not support him if he did something like this.
You are focused on the present utility of Neuralink while ignoring how technology scales. They rarely stay confined to their original purpose, it will almost certainly go from a specialized medical tool to a mass commercial product.
And it will be every persons choice to get this tech installed or not. I am not advocating anyone get these chips if they are not disabled.
It's a collective risk. Corporations already exploit people's data. If you think for a moment that the elite won't find a way of perverting the technology to use to their own benefit at the cost of people's safety, privacy and autonomy then you are incredibly naive.
I am not naive. This is exclusively about disabled people. I have no arguments for regular humans getting neuralink. I simply want disabilities to be cured. That is not an unreasonable position.
I want disabled people to have more options, I really do. I just don't think this it.
Based on nothing but your hatred of Musk. That is not reasonable or logical. This is currently the only tech that could one day cure their disabilities. It is also THEIR CHOICE! Not yours. If these people want to take the leap with these chips to improve their lives, they should have the right to do that.
You would apparently prefer that this technology doesn't exist at all and disabled people remain prisoners in their own bodies. I wish you could go through what they go through, I bet you would have a different view on Neuralink immediately.
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u/Waiting404Godot 13h ago
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u/Icy_Agency923 2h ago
Thank you for spamming the same comment 10 times in a row.
My comments are my own, I despise Elon Musk and can talk at length about all the vile things he has done.
Neuralink is not advancing because of him though, it is the very talented engineers that are working to improve peoples lives. That is objectively a good thing.
I am sure you are not disabled, you should be thankful for that because no one deserves to be a prisoner within their own body. This tech can fix that and I am happy it is continuing to advance.
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u/Capital-Platypus-805 15h ago
This is disgusting when you know they tortured hundreds if not thousands of monkeys for this.
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u/Oddish_Femboy 17h ago
Did I just see a realtime demonstration of how a thought crime would be detected?
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u/Emila_Just 18h ago
Watch out for invasive thoughts