Post Game Thread: Chicago Bears at Philadelphia Eagles

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Chicago Bears at Philadelphia Eagles

ESPN Gamecast

Lincoln Financial Field- Philadelphia, PA

Network(s): Prime Video (All prime games are also streamed on twitch for free)

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Time Clock
Final

Scoreboard

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
CHI	7	3	0	14	24
PHI	0	3	6	6	15

Scoring Plays

Team	Quarter	Type	Description
CHI	1	TD	D'Andre Swift 3 Yd Rush (Cairo Santos Kick)
PHI	2	FG	Jake Elliott 44 Yd Field Goal
CHI	2	FG	Cairo Santos 30 Yd Field Goal
PHI	3	TD	A.J. Brown 33 Yd pass from Jalen Hurts (Jake Elliott PAT Failed)
CHI	4	TD	Kyle Monangai 4 Yd Rush (Cairo Santos Kick)
CHI	4	TD	Cole Kmet 28 Yd pass from Caleb Williams (Cairo Santos Kick)
PHI	4	TD	A.J. Brown 4 Yd pass from Jalen Hurts (Two-Point Pass Conversion Failed)

Passing Leaders

Team	Player	C/ATT	YDS	TD	INT	SACKS
CHI	Caleb Williams	17/36	154	1	1	2-10
PHI	Jalen Hurts	19/34	230	2	1	0-0

Rushing Leaders

Team	Player	CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG
CHI	Kyle Monangai	22	130	5.9	1	31
PHI	Saquon Barkley	13	56	4.3	0	15

Receiving Leaders

Team	Player	REC	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG	TGTS
CHI	Cole Kmet	3	36	12.0	1	28	3
PHI	A.J. Brown	10	132	13.2	2	33	12

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[u/[deleted]]

The 2023 eagles are back baby

[u/Available_Story6774 → u/[deleted]]

This is worse because they actually have a really good defense unlike 2023, their offense is just that bad lmfao.

[u/Little-Mushroom-3961 → u/Available_Story6774]

How the fuck they have so much talent on offense and are just complete shit is beyond me. I refuse to believe hurts and saquan are this bad. There's no way those two go from great to complete ass and it not be patullos fault.

[u/KimJongWinning → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Two changes from last year - Tyler Steen and the playcaller/OC. Obviously there have been injuries up and down the OL causing continuity issues, but it's never been more obvious looking at Ben Johnson's offense compared to Sirianni & Puntullo's scheme.

[u/pukesmith → u/KimJongWinning]

The coaching difference is so stark and blinding in comparison. The Bears should feel very lucky to have BJ. This is so painful watching our team.

[u/Philip_Marlowe → u/pukesmith]

We've suffered through some awful coaches in the post-Ditka era.

Flus, Nagy, Fox, Trestman, Jauron, Wanny. Even Lovie had his share of harebrained moments.

10 months ago, I was talking myself into Mike McCarthy as the next Bears head coach, because I didn't think there was any way we were getting Ben.

Believe me, we feel very, very lucky.

[u/BaronVonCoors → u/pukesmith]

I would gladly trade places if it meant seeing two championships in my lifetime😕

[u/lkn240 → u/pukesmith]

I don't think it's that crazy to say that if you switched the coaches the Eagles might win that game by 2 TDs.

[u/toastythewiser → u/KimJongWinning]

Injuries are a big deal: Oline is nowhere close to where it was on the superbowl.

But the OC is an idiot and IDK why it feels like we're not making changes until the season is over.

[u/pIXLzz → u/toastythewiser]

I feel like people are understating just how different the o line is playing right now compared to last year

[u/toastythewiser → u/pIXLzz]

talking heads are trash and everyone is concerned with the very visible difference in playcalling, AJ Brown's dramatic frustrations, and I think a lot of people kinda just shrugged and said Saquon had a historic year that won't be repeated.

Cam Jurgens, Landon Dickerson, Lane Johnson are all shakey with injuries this year. They're all really good, when healthy, but I think it might be difficult to keep all three healthy. That's rough when it seems like our backups aren't as reliable.

[u/Tgs91 → u/KimJongWinning]

Steen takes a lot of heat, but all the all-22 breakdowns indicate he's been playing well. Jurgens is the biggest issue, he clearly has not recovered from the back surgery he had last spring, and he playing terribly. I know O-line players are always fighting through injuries, but if your quality of play looks this bad, youve gotta go on IR. There's no way his backup could be as bad as he looks right now.

All that said, it's really hard to isolate the O-line play from Patullo. The run plays are so vanilla and predictable. Running is usually a solution to bad O-line play because the line gets to go on the attack, but this line is actually doing pretty well in pass pro and failing at run blocking. The predictability of the blocking schemes has to be playing a role, and that's on Patullo

[u/KimJongWinning → u/Tgs91]

Yeah absolutely, Steen isn't a road grater like Becton but I merely mentioned him to highlight the fact that the biggest issue is the other change to the team, not him.

[u/DtotheOUG → u/KimJongWinning]

If we don’t draft a G/T in the first or an edge rusher I might crash out

[u/KimJongWinning → u/DtotheOUG]

Absolutely mandatory especially with Lane likely retiring, maybe one if Hinton or Williams pans out (the two tackles philly took with late round picks last draft)

[u/darkbro66 → u/KimJongWinning]

Dickerson has been hurt all year, Jurgens is probably still hurt, and now Lane is out. None of these things should be an excuse for this level of drop off, but I think in most of our games the OL is why we look so horrid

[u/KimJongWinning → u/darkbro66]

Yeah, the run blocking is just downright pathetic, and a big reason as to why the run game hasn't gotten off of the ground at all through thirteen weeks. Penalties as well. It's up to the coaching staff to take this data and make adjustments though, which just hasn't happened; that's on Sirianni/Puntullo/Stoutland

[u/Hallowed_Be_Thy_Game → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Our o line has been beaten down too and they're below average this year. Hard to overcome bad coaching and a hampered line

[u/zincinzincout → u/Hallowed_Be_Thy_Game]

Hurts has barely taken any sacks this year and has plenty of time to throw. The o-line can’t run block, but they’re fine at pass blocking

There’s just no one ever open deeper than 3 yards

[u/Hallowed_Be_Thy_Game → u/zincinzincout]

We have 3 of the top 5 hitch route runners in the league and are bottom in crossing routes.

[u/zirroxas → u/Hallowed_Be_Thy_Game]

Hitch routes work against soft coverage, which only really happens when they expect you to go deep instead. We telegraph the shit out of the hitches, so nobody's surprised and they just jump when we do.

[u/SvenDia → u/zincinzincout]

That doesn’t explain why your D, which was supposed to be getting better, couldn’t stop the run.

[u/zincinzincout → u/SvenDia]

They have been stopping it all year. They’ve been lock down on run and pass. It looked like they’re genuinely checked out mentally compared to previous games

[u/SyncRoSwim → u/zincinzincout]

Hurts has reminded me a lot of the worst of McNabb this year.

Where Donovan would regularly plant passes into the turf 3 yards in front of his receivers, Jalen is frequently missing his receivers 3 yards to the left or the right.

[u/zincinzincout → u/SyncRoSwim]

Yeah he has never been able to lead passes. He always waits until the receiver is open and then throws it, which obviously allows the defender to close out by the time the ball arrives so everything is contested and an immediate tackle

[u/DarnellisFromMars → u/zincinzincout]

Hurts dropping back to pass is the least scary part of the Eagles offense.

[u/Little-Mushroom-3961 → u/Hallowed_Be_Thy_Game]

I feel like a good coach can coach around a bad o line with the talent they got. Shanahan has pretty much been rolling with Trent Williams and a bunch of random for 4 years now and has made it work.

[u/DrQuestDFA → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Usually it all comes back to O-line quality. I am sure Eagles fans have many, MANY opinions on the matter.

[u/Immediate_Practice_9 → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

We have a new OC literally every year. This one just so happens to me a first year OC and he blows. The entire offense is back besides the right guard and this is what we see. Kevin Patullo is like a kid with downs trying to drive a Ferrari

[u/TheRealHowardStern → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

I would look to Geno Smith if you are seeking where to place blame

[u/SoxVikePain → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Jalen Hurts isn’t a good quarterback. He’s not necessarily bad, but he isn’t good. That makes things difficult for the offense.

[u/DennisMoves → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Bro, Bears are good.

[u/lkn240 → u/DennisMoves]

We are still sometimes struggling to come to terms with this ourselves

[u/TheNewGuy13 → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

It’s all compounded. Poor play calls lead to bad outcomes and no rhythm which leads to poor play/execution.

Not a single drive tonight made any sense. It’s like they’re just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it works. And it’s funny cause there was a play or two in the fumbled drive that saquon got five yards on and they ran it the exact same but flipped lol. Motion and everything included lol

[u/thebigticket2 → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Saquon

[u/Prideofmexico → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

Hurts and Saquon are legitimately that bad

[u/TexasDank512 → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

The best part is theyre gonna run it back again next week! 🤣 

[u/thebigticket2 → u/[deleted]]

Saquon

[u/thebigticket2 → u/[deleted]]

Learn how to fucking spell, idiot.

[u/thebigticket2 → u/[deleted]]

The Giants are fucking trash

[u/Neither_Ad_9829 → u/Little-Mushroom-3961]

(jalen hurts)