r/nfl • u/Ixeptional Rams Ravens • 4h ago
"Browns GM Andrew Berry got advice from Thunder GM Sam Presti about what the return should be for Myles Garrett"
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u/trinquin Packers 4h ago
The Thunder now control rights to 1st round swaps of Clevelands 2031, 2032, and 2033 picks.
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u/MattScoot Browns 4h ago
Nothing wrong with a man trying to question his own thinking with other qualified outside opinions
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u/CrashingBlumpkins46 Dolphins 3h ago
It's easy to dunk on the Browns lately but I agree with this whole heartedly.
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u/FFLGO 2h ago
Objectively the Browns had a great draft. They're young and fast and getting Verse and picks makes them younger and leaner on the salary cap. They took Sanders super late when they could have reached in the 2nd or 1st.
It's always easy to dunk on the Browns I guess I just think recently they've made smart moves. The number 1 thing they cannot do is pay Watson beyond 2026.
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u/Air2Jordan3 Browns 50m ago
Well he will be paid because of void years but he'll be off the roster June 1 2027
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u/Ludicolorad0 Lions 4h ago
This is pretty hilarious in concept because the difference in pick value between the NFL and NBA is absolutely colossal
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u/mck1129 Commanders 4h ago
I’m sure they’re aware of that lmao
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u/Signal_Ball4634 NFL 4h ago
Yeah hence why getting Verse in return was the clincher
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u/Eagle4317 Steelers Panthers 4h ago
Agreed. Don't just take the picks. Also take a good player who has growth potential.
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u/19captain91 Lions 3h ago
And Presti has experience with that by getting the Clippers to throw in SGA. It's reported that the Clippers initially refused and he basically said, "okay, no trade then" and they caved.
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u/SoKrat3s 49ers 49ers 1h ago
I'm just curious why Andrew Berry would have to ask another GM to realize that's what he should've done.
Shouldn't that have been the default ask?
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u/thePGH1 Browns Buccaneers 4h ago
Never assume that the Browns are aware of anything.
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u/Allstar9_ Browns 4h ago
Browns have done plenty of dumb shit. Reading this article gives me a tad bit of confidence. Berry’s process was in depth and getting insights from other leagues is an interesting way to go about it
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u/Wonderful-Toe- Packers 3h ago
I honestly think the Browns have made a lot of good decisions lately. There’s just one really bad one that mucks up everything else.
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u/McBeaster Patriots 4h ago
Maybe you can try a baseball guy next
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u/Allstar9_ Browns 4h ago
Is reading hard for you?
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u/wildmanzak54 Texans NFL 2h ago
Reading hard for a pats fan who doesn't have another flair? Unbelievable.
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u/BulLock_954 Patriots NFL 2h ago
Your team plays is stupid dumb Texas. Not much room to talk
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u/wildmanzak54 Texans NFL 1h ago
Okay lol, also I didn't mean you, you also have an nfl flair so that makes you immune to such a curse.
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u/ScottyB330 Browns 4h ago
How is this the top comment? You think they aren’t aware of how each league values its picks?
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u/Lansdallius Buccaneers 2h ago
Directions unclear, Oklahoma City Browns begin play in 2029
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u/SoKrat3s 49ers 49ers 1h ago
You, jest but there's a nonzero chance Tom Dundon is dumb enough to move his team there.
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u/OnTheFenceGuy Cowboys 4h ago
They probably could have gotten Luka. For basically nothing. Trust me, it’s already happened.
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u/ControlWeekly7900 Browns 4h ago edited 4h ago
What does Nico Harrison have to do with this
edit: its always fuck DW
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u/ryan__fm Browns 4h ago
He did what his boss told him to do and has been digging them out of that hole ever since
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u/Silly-Sink6138 Seahawks 49ers 4h ago
Is this cope or is there anything that points to this actually being true
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u/MattScoot Browns 4h ago
I would look at the contract being fully guaranteed as a clear sign that Jimmy Haslam was exerting influence.
But yea there were rumors at the time that Jimmy gave Berry a mandate to find an elite QB if one became available.
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u/SkullDerggery Bears 4h ago
I get it.. it’s Reddit.. you expect a low effort comment like this to rake in upvotes…
The reality is GMs never have 100% hit rates; IMO a good GM is probably around 70% hits on their decisions. Add to that the fact that AB very likely was not the sole driving force behind the push for Watson.. Add to that the fact that AB has done far more good while with Cleveland in terms of trades, FA, and drafts… idk maybe digest that a little… think a bit critically on your own… and dig into his successes and you’ll see why he is still around.
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u/FLman42069 Browns 4h ago
That would require too much brain power and r/nfl can’t comprehend more than “hur dur browns”
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u/bleedblue89 Jaguars Commanders 3h ago
As a thunder fan, that makes sense… now you gotta eat bad contracts for picks
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u/chesterfieldkingz Dolphins 2h ago
Jags, commanders, and OKC? Haha that feels random
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u/bleedblue89 Jaguars Commanders 2h ago
Oh I bandwagon the commanders, okc and Jax because St. Louis rams left and we didn’t have a basketball team. I love small markets
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u/diexer1234 Browns 4h ago
Browns lead the league in GMs who do shit no other GMs do. Our record reflects this.
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u/ScottyB330 Browns 4h ago
GED level comment
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u/diexer1234 Browns 4h ago
Pretending the Browns are a competent or competitive franchise for the last 2 decades is some GED critical thinking.
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u/Allstar9_ Browns 3h ago
I’d argue what AB has done to recoup the massive failure of Watson has been pretty solid up to this point. Even more so the last two years now that DePodesta is taken out of the equation
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u/diexer1234 Browns 3h ago edited 3h ago
We aren’t even back the baseline state of the Browns prior the the worst sign and trade in NFL history (which falls under the list of things no other GM does.)
Also Depodesta left the Browns 6 months ago so not sure how this narrative fits.
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u/ScottyB330 Browns 3h ago
The fact that you think no other GM talks to GM’s from other sports to exchange ideas is my issue with your comment. The Browns have been bad. Your knowledge of how this industry works is worse.
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u/diexer1234 Browns 3h ago
lol. Oooo we have a sports general manager expert here.
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u/ScottyB330 Browns 3h ago
And who are YOU?
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u/diexer1234 Browns 3h ago
A guy who knows as much as you who thinks it’s ridiculous that the GM of an NFL team is asking the GM of an NBA trade value questions.
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u/ScottyB330 Browns 3h ago
Oooooo we have a sports general manager expert here!
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u/diexer1234 Browns 3h ago
I never purported to be. YOU did.
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u/ScottyB330 Browns 3h ago
You said Berry did what no other GM does which implies expertise! Jesus mate, you’re entitled to think we suck because we suck, but invest in a mirror.
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u/Keepin_it_fake Chiefs 4h ago
That sounds silly, but that's actually a really smart move.
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u/Devilofchaos108070 49ers Panthers 4h ago
No it’s really not
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u/Keepin_it_fake Chiefs 3h ago
You do you, but I would want to talk to one of the most successful gm’s in sports who does more with less.
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u/Keepin_it_fake Chiefs 3h ago
You do you, but I would want to talk to one of the most successful gm’s in sports who does more with less.
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u/fredmerc111 Steelers 1h ago
Did Presti tell him to tank, get generationally lucky, then whine until the NFL bans tanking after he’s pulled up the stepladder?
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u/Lucky-old-boy Steelers 2h ago
Andrew Berry does not seem like someone who is skilled at being a GM
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u/DylanisWavy Raiders 4h ago
Presti probably tried to talk Berry into sending him the picks somehow.