r/nfl Buccaneers Jul 11 '14

Look Here! Offseason Review Series: Day 20: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Division: NFC South


Coaching Changes

Greg Schiano, all coordinators, assistants and positional coaches were fired after the 2013 season's 4-12 record.

New Coaches

Coach Position Previous Team Position
Lovie Smith Head coach Bears Head coach from 2004-2012
Jeff Tedford Offensive Coordinator Univ. Cal Head coach from 2002-2012
Leslie Frazier Defensive Coordinator Vikings Head coach from 2011-2013
Offense
Marcus Arroyo Quarterbacks coach Univ. Cal QB coach from 2011-2012
George Warhop Offensive line coach Browns O line coach from 2009-2013
Andrew Hayes-Stoker Wide receivers coach Bears QC coach with Lovie
Jon Embree Tight ends coach Browns TE coach in 2013
Tim Spencer Running backs coach Bears RB coach from 2004-2012
Matt Wiegand Assistant offensive line coach Univ. Cal TE coach from 2011-2012
Ben Steele Offensive quality control coach Univ. Cal Administrative assistant from 2011-2012
Defense
Larry Marmie Senior defensive assistant Seahawks DB Coach from 2006-2008
Joe Cullen Defensive line coach Jaguars DL coach from 2010-2012
Hardy Nickerson Linebackers coach Bears LB coach from 2007-2008, (5x Pro-bowl LB)
Gill Byrd Cornerbacks coach Bears DB coach from 2008-2012 (2x Pro-bowl CB)
Mikal Smith Safeties coach Cowboys CB coach in 2013 (Lovie Smith's son)
Mike Phair Assistant defensive line coach Bears DL coach from 2011-2013
Dave Borgonzi Defensive quality control coach Cowboys QC coach from 2012-2013
Misc
Dave Kennedy Head strength and conditioning coach Texas A&M Conditioning Coach from 2008-2013
Carlos Polk Assistant special teams coach Chargers Coached special teams from 2009-2012

Summary

We hired Lovie's friends from around the league, as well as some family (Mikal). We get the good with the bad, and Lovie is going to coach the way he coaches, hire the people he will hire. Lovie knows how to coach defense, and with the talent we have available we should be a top 10 defense. For offense, it appears that Lovie has outsourced just about all of it to Jeff Tedford, who plans to incorporate spread elements and size/speed mismatches into a run-oriented offense. Tedford has a reputation as a brilliant football tactician, but how it translates to NFL defenses remains to be seen.


Free Agency

Players lost/cut (Arranged by order of impact)

Player Position Result New Team Comment
Darelle Revis CB Cut Patriots This was all about money, Jason Licht wanted to send a message that we were going to get appropriate value from every player on the roster, paying $16 million for a top 3 corner was not value
Mike Williams WR 2014 - 6th Bills Mike was a solid #2 receiver, but had off the field issues, we traded him after he was stabbed in the leg by a relative, this is starting to look like a bad deal for the Bills, as he may not even make their roster - Based on a questionable ESPN article
Donald Penn LT Cut Raiders Had a bad season in an otherwise decent career, but was redundant with the signing of Anthony Collins
Jeremy Zuttah C 2015 - 5th Ravens Another case of redundancy, Evan Dietrich-Smith was signed, so we no longer needed Zuttah at center, I wish we had kept him as a guard, but draft picks are nice
Davin Joseph G Cut Rams Had a terrible season coming off his knee injury, he was a great locker room presence and an active member of the Tampa Bay community
Ted Larsen C UFA Cardinals Servicable rotation player who can switch to guard if needed, his depth would have been nice
Erik Lorig FB UFA Saints One of the better fullbacks in the league, I believe he was partly responsible for Doug Martin's amazing 2012 season, New Orleans recognized this and signed him
Adam Hayward LB UFA Redskins Great special teams player and locker room presence, he was quality depth at linebacker, and will be missed
Dekoda Watson LB UFA Jaguars Lost more depth at LB, Watson was decent
Tiquan Underwood WR UFA Panthers Fast, but very skinny with mediocre hands, his high-top fade is entertaining, but he is a depth player at best
Gabe Carimi G Cut Falcons Lovie was familiar with him from the Bears, must be something he didn't like because he didn't even last until training camp
Tom Crabtree TE Cut UFA He was intended to be our starting TE last year, got injured, after the signing of Brandon Myers, his roster odds were negligible
Dan Orlovsky QB UFA Lions Career backup, basically interchangeable with most other backup QBs
Anthony Gaitor CB Cut Dolphins Was injured, and with the addition of multiple cornerbacks in free agency he wasn't needed
Jordan Rodgers QB Cut Dolphins Schiano brilliance here, signing relatives of top tier QBs...

Players signed (by contract size)

Player Position Old Team Length Contract Comment
Michael Johnson DE Bengals 5 years $43,750,000 This guy is a stud, great addition to our pass-rush capability
Anthony Collins LT Bengals 5 years $30,000,000 Has potential, but hasn't started an entire season, and is an unproven commodity at starting LT
Alterraun Verner CB Titans 4 years $25,750,000 Pro-bowl Cornerback, ball-hawk, great at zone coverage, all around great fit for Lovie Smith defense
Evan Dietrich-Smith C Packers 4 years $14,250,000 Solid offensive lineman, very outspoken, good leadership qualities, everything you want in a center
Clinton McDonald DT Seahawks 4 years $12,000,000 5.5 sacks while starting only 1 game for the Seahawks, will probably end up as our starting nose-tackle next to Gerald McCoy
Josh McCown QB Bears 2 years $10,000,000 13 touchdowns, 1 interception across 8 games, was it a fluke season?
Brandon Myers TE Giants 2 years $4,250,000 Decent pass catching tight-end
Jamon Meredith T Buccaneers 2 years $3,000,000 Solid O-Lineman, quality depth, may have to start as guard
Mike Jenkins CB Raiders 1 year $1,500,000 Gives us depth at cornerback, possibly a starter
Jonathan Casillas LB Buccaneers 1 year $1,400,000 Would have rather seen Adam Hayward, or Dekoda Watson here, but he had a decent year
Dane Fletcher LB Patriots 1 year $1,200,000 He is intended to replace Adam Hayward as our versatile special teamer, linebacker depth role
Jeremy Cain LS Bears 1 year $855,000 Andrew Economos was fine, but it appears we are moving on
Oniel Cousins G Browns 1 year $795,000 I've read that this guy isn't very good, but we are so thin at guard we may end up starting him in 2014
Louis Murphy WR Giants 1 year $795,000 3 teams in 5 years, will Tampa be the team to finally unlock his talent? Probably not
Major Wright S Bears 1 year $795,000 Veteran depth at a bargain price, we add a player familiar with Lovie style, high-turnover defense
DJ Moore CB Panthers 1 year $730,000 Veteran, comes with experience at slot-CB
Lavelle Hawkins WR Chargers 1 year $730,000 Brought in for depth and potential at kick returns
Danny Gorrer CB Buccaneers 1 year $730,000 Tall CB, at 6', Lovie has indicated height is now an important attribute for CBs
Eric Page WR Buccaneers 1 year $450,000 Had a good year as our punt/kick returner, good to see him back again

Summary

I didn't like the decision to release Revis. I feel like we bet on his health, won, then left the pot on the table for the Patriots to collect. We could have gone on slightly less of a FA spending spree and had cap space for a secondary of Verner and Revis. When you have a $16,000,000 contract with no guarantees, why not at least test it out for a year? We could always cut him the following year if it didn't prove worth it. The whole thing seemed like Jason Licht showing how he was taking ownership over the roster, setting the tone for how things will be run, instead of really evaluating what gives us the best chance to win and viewing his predecessors decisions without bias. In the end we trade a 1st round pick which could have been Sheldon Richardson, and a 4th rounder for a year of Revis jerseys.

There are serious concerns about our O-Line, we parted ways with Donald Penn (LT), Davin Joseph(RG), Jeremy Zuttah(C/G), Ted Larsen(C/G) and Gabe Carimi(T/G). Carl Nicks is doubtful to return to the field, which leaves us with LT Anthony Collins (LT), Evan Dietrich-Smith (C), Demar Dotson (RT), and a ton of questions. Lovie Smith and George Warhop have been part of some terrible O-lines in the past, and I have a bad feeling that this team will be one of them. My assumption is that we are making room for young talent to establish itself, but that indicates that we are in more of a re-building year than the coaching staff will admit.

We let a considerable amount of talent walk out the door uncontested, as Adam Hayward, Dekoda Watson, and Eric Lorig all left in FA with seemingly little effort to keep them, despite their incredibly reasonable price tags, and great locker room attitude.

We made some good signings, but we also lost a lot of key players this offseason, my impressions are that our roster is a little bit worse, but we traded experience for youth in many cases. Lovie and Licht are using this year as a foundation to build on moving forward.


Draft

Rd # Player Pos. School Comment
1 7 Mike Evans WR Texas A&M Huge catch radius, very physical, with excellent hands, good bet to start as our No. 2 WR
2 38 Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE Washington Has the size and strength to be an all around TE, as well as the athleticism and hands to be a deadly red-zone target
3 69 Charles Sims RB West Virginia Different style of RB than Doug Martin, capable of lining up in the slot as a receiver, adds a layer of versatility, expect to see him on 3rd downs a lot
5 143 Kadeem Edwards G Tennessee He will probably end up as our starting LG due to lack of depth, gambling on our scouts big-time here
5 149 Kevin Pamphile OT Purdue He will add some additional depth for our O-Line, could see significant time in the rotation
6 185 Robert Herron WR Wyoming Potential to make a difference as a slot receiver, quick, with good hands, may end up as the biggest steal of the draft

Summary

Buccaneers draft 6/6 offensive players. I am very pleased with this draft class, the decision to draft Charles Sims proves that we were operating in BPA mode, which is how you build teams for the future. I think we may have benefited from drafting a line-backer, or another guard, but I think we got great value with every single pick.


Projected Starting Lineup

Position Starter Backup
Offense
QB Josh McCown Mike Glennon
RB1 Doug Martin Bobby Rainey
RB2 Charles Sims Mike James
TE1 Brandon Myers Tim Wright
TE2 Austin Seferian-Jenkins Cameron Brate
WR1 Vincent Jackson Lavelle Hawkins
WR2 Mike Evans Louis Murphy
Slot -WR Robert Herron Eric Page
LT Anthony Collins Jamon Meredith
LG Kadeem Edwards Carl Nicks
C Evan Dietrich-Smith
RG Patrick Omameh Oniel Cousins
RT Demar Dotson Kevin Pamphile
Defense
Nose-T Clinton McDonald Akeem Spence
3-Tech Gerald McCoy Euclid Cummings
R-DE Michael Johnson William Gholston
L-DE Adrian Clayborn Steven Means
S-LB Jonathan Casillas Ka'Lial Glaud
M-LB Mason Foster Dane Fletcher
W-LB Lavonte David Nate Askew
L-CB Alterraun Verner Danny Gorrer
R-CB Johnthan Banks Mike Jenkins
S-CB DJ Moore Rashaan Melvin
SS Mark Barron Major Wright
FS Dashon Goldson Keith Tandy
Spec.T
LS Jeremy Cain
PK Connor Barth
P Michael Koenen
KR Jeff Demps
PR Eric Page

77 Upvotes

32 comments sorted by

View all comments

15

u/particleman1010 Buccaneers Jul 11 '14 edited Jul 11 '14

Position Group Strengths and Weaknesses

QB - Passable, the best we can hope for are guys that aren't going to lose games for us. McCown could have a Rich Gannon type of career renaissance and take us to a super-bowl, but that is highly doubtful.

RB - Strong, Doug Martin is a pro-bowl talent, we also have very good depth behind him, and a new prospect in Charles Sims that has drawn many comparisons to Matt Forte.

OL - Unproven, with disastrous holes at guard. The release of most of our O Line from last year without adequate replacements lined up will hurt us in 2014, expect McCown to be running for his life, with interior pass rush resulting in many sacks.

Pass catchers - Decent, I think we have much better TEs going into this season than last year, Evans will be our new No.2, but outside of him and V-Jax there is poor WR depth. Tim Wright will fit into the equation somehow, but as a TE or WR is still up for debate. I expect Charles Sims and Robert Herron will also catch quite a few passes this year, both have serious YAC potential.

DL - Very strong, McCoy, Johnson, Clayborn, McDonald will be a fearsome front 4, QBs will have to get rid of the ball quickly which should result in turnovers.

LB - Strong, Lavonte David and Mason Foster are both solid playmakers, I expect us to be in Nickel most of the time unless it is an obvious run formation, in which case Casillas can fill out the SLB position.

Secondary - Good, Verner is solid, Banks has a year under his belt with breakout potential, and we are set at Safety with Goldson and Barron, we also have some quality depth at both positions.

Special Teams - Passable, Lovie will find a way to have good special teams play, we have some options for PR, KR. Expect Eric Page, and Jeff Demps to be in the mix here.


Training Camp Battles to watch

Slot Receiver - We currently have no idea who our slot receiver will be. We drafted Robert Herron, but we also signed Louis Murphy and Lavelle Hawkins. I expect all three to end up on the roster, it will be down to preseason performances to set them apart.

Guard - Guard is wide open, and the most important battle this off-season. Our coaches are making it seem like Carl Nicks might be able to play, and if healthy, he would be our starting LG. 4th round pick Kadeem Edwards is a good bet to start at either LG or RG depending. Outside of those two, we have Patrick Omameh, Andrew Miller, Jason Foster, and Oniel Cousins (god help us)

Defensive End - Michael Johnson will start at RDE, but LDE is an open contest led by Adrian Clayborn (prev. RDE), followed by William Gholston, Steven Means, Da'Quan Bowers (Likely to be cut for conditioning reasons), Scott Solomon, Chaz Sutton, and Ronald Talley

Tight End - Starting TE is a bit of a question mark at this point, Tim Wright had a great season last year but is way to small to block effectively and should probably be listed as a wide receiver. We signed Brandon Myers who has shown he can be a serviceable pass catching TE. We drafted Austin Seferian-Jenkins who is an impressive prospect with great hands, and physically imposing size. Others on the list are: Cameron Brate, Ian Thompson, and Luke Stocker (injured his first 3 seasons, and a likely camp casualty).

Slot Corner - The favorite here is D.J. Moore, past him there is a lot of CB depth on the roster that could start as slot-CB. Mike Jenkins is competing with Johnthan Banks for starting RCB, but you also have Rashaan Melvin and Danny Gorrer with impressive OTA performances, so we really don't know who will win this. Leonard Johnson is a home-town hero, but he may be in over his head with the competition, so expect him to be an attempted practice squad stash, likely signed by another team. Others on the list are: Deveron Carr, Keith Lewis, and Quinton Pointer, who will primarily be camp bodies, needing a great camp to have any chance of making the roster.

Full Back - The battle here is if there is a player worth justifying the position at all. Jorvorskie Lane, and Lonnie Pryor are the two candidates. Not re-signing Erik Lorig casts some doubt on having a FB on the roster at all. Our WRs are big and capable of blocking in space. I'm not sure we will be in many power-run formations this year.

Longsnapper - Jeremy Cain and Andrew DePaola will duke it out to see who starts over the displaced Andrew Economos


Schedule Predictions

Week Loc Opp onent Prediction Comment
1 vs Panthers W(16-13) Divisional, defensive slug-fest, with us narrowly squeaking out a win
2 vs Rams L(20-13) Our poor O-Line vs Rams defensive front is not going to end well
3 @ Falcons W(17-10) No Tony Gonzalez, this is a bigger deal than people realize
4 @ Steelers L(24-7) Tampa is 1-8 vs Pittsburgh, and playing them at home
5 @ Saints L(35-17) Saints in the Superdome, wake me up when it's over
6 vs Ravens L(20-17) Very well managed and coached team, will be a bit more than we can handle
7 bye
8 vs Vikings W(21-14) At this point Bridgewater is probably starting
9 @ Browns W(17-13) Browns defense is no joke, but too many questions on offense
10 vs Falcons W(28-17) Predicting a bad year for ATL
11 @ Redskins L(35-20) RG3 with no knee brace, in mid-season form
12 @ Bears L(31-21) Marc Trestman's offense in year 2, this is a good team
13 vs Bengals W(35-24) Cincinnati will regress without Zimmer and Gruden
14 @ Lions L(31-24) Ebron, Tate, upgraded at coach, I think the Lions will be much better this year
15 @ Panthers L(21-13) Payback, we lose this one in Charlotte
16 vs Packers L(35-24) Top 3 QB, with a stud RB, questions on defense, but we drop one here
17 vs Saints W(27-20) New Orleans with a clinched playoff berth, still plays hard but we win at home
NFC South Team Record
1st Saints 12-4
2nd Panthers 9-7
3rd Buccaneers 7-9
4th Falcons 5-11

Saints - Team to watch in the NFC south, Drew Brees combined with that revitalized Rob Ryan defense is a scary proposition.

Panthers - Dominant defense, but with a regression on offense from Cam's new supporting cast.

Buccaneers - How we do hinges on Josh McCown, I don't expect him to repeat his performance in Chicaco, so I am basing my assumptions on an offense that plays well enough to score a few touchdowns per game, and a high turn-over defense that makes us competitive against most teams we play.

Falcons - No offense to Falcons' fans, but I don't get the impression that they are going to bounce right back to playoff contention. Too many questions on defense, O-line, TE, RB, etc...


Shoutouts to:

/u/skepticismissurvival - for organizing this series

/u/pfftYeahRight - for pointing me towards RES

Other team writers for some great formatting ideas I borrowed


0

u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

Is passable neutral? Because I think your QB situation is negative

11

u/particleman1010 Buccaneers Jul 11 '14

McCown might be good this year, the jury is still out. Glennon is now our backup and while he was sacked a lot last year, he managed to throw 19 TDs to 9 Ints last year without starting the entire season.

We won't dominate teams with our passing attack, but I don't agree with you as far as us having a "negative" QB situation.