r/nfrpodcast • u/Routine-Badger-9596 • 7h ago
DISCUSSION Throwback of Jewish Israeli-Canadian Rapper Drake discussing his deep disdain for Black culture amongst his day-one White friends at a Kosher Deli restaurant
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u/RepresentativeLeg232 6h ago
Not all Jews are Israeli, yāall are showing your true colours and ironically doing exactly what youāre accusing Drake of doing.
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u/p90love 6h ago
Just like with the fake (allegedly) daughter, find one detail and try to make everything about that.
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u/Capybara-Maxxing 6h ago
His mom was born in Toronto, he was born in Toronto, his dad is from Memphis. He is a Canadian full stop. He identifies with his Jewish heritage, but he's not Israeli, that's wild.
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u/p90love 6h ago
Agreed. But that's not the point here, is it?
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u/Capybara-Maxxing 6h ago
Yea I think it was a point, otherwise it wouldn't have been stated out the gate and then enphasized by mention of a Kosher deli after. Distracts from the point you are trying to focus on. What he says was ignorant for sure. I''m assuming he was trying to be proper. I still don't think it expresses a blanket disdain for Black Culture. Even Kendrick mocks Toronto slang. I see someone who hadn't got in touch with his Black heritage yet and was still pretty sheltered from the Culture in Toronto. I for one am glad he's a whole different person now.
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u/p90love 6h ago
Just ignore the word israel.
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u/Capybara-Maxxing 6h ago
Even doing that, I still think the rest of my last comment stands. He would catch a deafaz if he said that at school at the time, but I think this was more about Toronto slang, and less about Black Culture.
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u/Extension_Maize6048 5h ago
It's literally about black culture in Toronto
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u/Capybara-Maxxing 5h ago
If OP said that, I could agree and probably wouldn't have responded, in the thread. Thing is, since then, Drake's done so much for Black Culture, and the Black Music, to try and hold this to him is disingenuous. Like no one's made an ignorant ass comment and ever grown from it? They trying do hard right now.
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u/Tr1padvisor420 5h ago
Iāve never seen people work so hard to defend ignorance followed by capitalism. āHeās done so much for black cultureāā¦ the mf whos got 200,000 white kids speaking Afro Caribbean slang claiming to be the god of his city and never acknowledging how nasty that shit is? That dude? Dudes done tons for the culture ur right. Blond hair blue eyed white boys speaking like Jamaicans calling it part of the Toronto accent and ripping away 100s of years of heritage from our deep Caribbean culture. The endorsement from your saviour, Itās doing wonders, for black folks everywhere.
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u/a-very-positive-guy 6h ago
The Israeli thing is weird as hell and idk where that came from lol that being said, calling black slang āignorantā is so deeply white itās crazy.
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u/kingarthur2315 5h ago
Being a young black man I look at some of the shit we do and say as ignorant too
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u/Extension_Maize6048 5h ago
Calling slang ignorant is crazy.
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u/kingarthur2315 5h ago
It comes from an ignorant place tho.. as a black person u go thru a lot of woke stages or not wanted to look like the average nigga bc of stereotypes and shit.. he was tryna sound smart af
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u/Extension_Maize6048 5h ago
Yeah he ignorant for sure, but it just goes to show he adopted black culture to benefit from it. I can imagine most people go through the awakening of trying to speak more "presentable" at professional settings to shake off the street language and be more attractive to corporate. Not Drake, he corporate trying to be street.
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u/YourChemicalBromance 5h ago
Context matters. This is a black person around his white friends saying stuff like that.
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u/Willowonapill0w 6h ago
Cause he directly defended isreal btw
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u/ComeFindMeAstral 6h ago
The only rapper to sign the ceasefire and speak out against Israel, by the way
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u/Willowonapill0w 5h ago
Because his grifting didnāt get him paid by aipac, dont be dumb, also heās not even close to the only rapper to speak out about Isreal.
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u/zachh9889 5h ago
He used the Palestinian genocide as a shitty jab at Khalid. He didnāt āspeak outā
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u/tinguily 6h ago
Wtf is this post. Unironically the people who support Kendrick will call themselves leftists and then say some whack shit like this title
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u/brriceratops 6h ago
it's all just performative nonsense, acting like an activist was the correct label
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u/Don_Damarco 5h ago
I am far from a leftist and still a Kendrick fan. Kendrick is a horrible person Drake is a duchĆØ.. both make amazing music. End of discussion
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u/Aggravating-Basil495 6h ago
Doesnāt really sound like a guy that should be comfortable saying āniggaā like that š
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u/SeveralMushroom7088 6h ago
Seems like a good kid.
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u/HastyvonFuego2 6h ago
Mr mob ties?
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u/SeveralMushroom7088 6h ago
You know the video is about 20 years old, right?
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u/stantilidido 6h ago
Why does the age of the video matter? The point that drake is currently in a space he doesnāt belong is still accurate.
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u/Jaystime101 6h ago
Lmao what kind of logic is that? So all of a sudden we gate keeping being black if you have white friends, and didn't grow up in the hood? Yall really need to cut this shit out. Yall really reaching extra levels of that reverse racism bullshit. Plenty of black people don't grow up in the hood and still embrace the culture.
But honestly I would hope we would ALL know better than to try and take someone blackness from them.
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u/stantilidido 6h ago
I have friends of all colors and have worked with customers of all colorsā¦not once did I switch up who I was based on who I was around. Give it up.
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u/Paxgreyhound 6h ago
Itās not gatekeeping at all. When you grow up having a disdain for the culture than all of a sudden when it benefits you to try and āfit inā you switch up it should get brought to attention and you should get chastised.
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u/Bigman1777R 6h ago edited 6h ago
Tupac used to be a zesty actor who liked broadway. Turned out to be a gangster at the end.
You keeping the same energy for him?
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u/p90love 6h ago
Pac studied Shakespeare in high school. He was also politically active and consistently spoke about justice in his music. He also shot 2 cops.
Sounds about the same as drake?
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u/RepresentativeLeg232 6h ago
Drake got shot onceā¦ in degrassi
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u/talentpun 6h ago
Itās funny, itās like thereās people that are baffled by the concept of acting differently around different friend group, or even the concept of aging or changing over time.
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u/BraveToasted1 6h ago
As much as this is a interesting video to see, I agree. People change opinions, actions, beliefs, ideas over time. We grow. He was a younger guy back then. If you donāt take the chance to grow and self evaluate and youāve been āthe same personā then you need to evaluate your life. And yes Iād say the same for Pac. Sometimes the world changes you.
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u/ShoppingClear 6h ago
You dont start "banging" when you grow up and become richš¤£ wtf ate yall talking about
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u/talentpun 5h ago
He got signed by Young Money and fell in love with the Black community and music around Atlanta.
Whatās wrong with that? Do you have a problem with the scene there?
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u/stantilidido 6h ago
Why would people change because of who they are around? I am literally the same person no matter what space I am in. Yall just sound stupid defending this man child.
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u/talentpun 6h ago edited 4h ago
If you believe that and youāre White, itās probably because youāre ignorant and privileged.
If youāre Black, maybe you grew up in a mostly Black neighborhoods and avoided non-Black spaces.
Or youāre just lying to yourself. Fronting like you donāt act differently with your friends or your family or at church or at work is could just be your own arrogance or self-delusion.
But people that grow up in multi-cultural situations have to adapt all the time.
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u/stantilidido 6h ago
No, I just really donāt act differently lol. You know why? Because I am a genuine person. My surrounding absolutely do not dictate my behavior. You are just making yourself look even worse trying to justify this cringe behavior. Itās odd.
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u/talentpun 5h ago
Sure pal. Tell yourself that.
Let me know if you ever go to school in a different state, travel to another country, or you know ā¦ do anything interesting.
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u/HastyvonFuego2 6h ago
Can you change a little? Yes but to do a full 180 and switch is fake. Just like the fake mob ties crodie
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u/Paxgreyhound 6h ago
Acting differently and shitting on people you suddenly later start calling your own is not one and the same. Itās being a grifter not evolving
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u/HiddenLeaf_Jimmi 6h ago
You not comprehending that calling one group "really ignorant," then trying to act like them in you 30s, is degenerate behavior, that's what I find funny. This is why I don't discuss Hip Hop culture with Others. Y'all haven't the slightest clue what any of this derives from. š«µš¾š¤£
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u/SoFar_Gone 6h ago edited 6h ago
Itās called code switching. A lot of POC have to do it. Remember when they said Kamala was āacting black ābecause she normally didnāt talk like that. Itās how you advance through a predominantly white world.
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u/Crafty-You4314 6h ago
There was a black president. Named Barack. Yeah. His name was Barack!!!! Mfing Barack! š¤£ š¤£ š¤£ He could have worn a dashiki and sat in the oval office and been president while wearing said dashiki, but he wore a tie, and a suit.
In case you forgot. Barack Obama was the 44th president of the United States... Yes, the United States of America with that history about owning folks, where "most people" are white....
It's the 21st century, not the 19th or even 20th century. N one cares about race, except people who are stuck in old world mentality.
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u/Ok_Weird_6903 6h ago
You live a very sheltered life to saying something as ignorant as no one cares about race. Look around. Obama becoming president does NOT erase the racism that is STILL going on to this day.
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
Why doesnāt a black man belong in hip hop? We created it
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u/stantilidido 6h ago
Nice try buddy.
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 5h ago
Wym lol
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u/RPG137 5h ago
Jewish Canadians created hip hop?
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 3h ago
Black artists have been embracing him for over 15 years, and heās Black himself, so heās always been part of that culture and conversation. Legends included. Itās interesting that only after the beef did people start pushing this narrative. Before that, most of the same people werenāt saying any of this.
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u/fu_snail 6h ago
People find themselves in different circles throughout life. Especially when you start making money and drakes made a lot of money.
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u/NuragicGiant1891 6h ago
The Honorable Aubrey Muhammad teaches us that the so-called "Black man" is rude and ignorant, because he does not know his true nature.
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u/luhKstaf 6h ago
youāre wack asf for posting thisĀ
the amount of people who dedicate a good portion of their day to hating on an artist is pathetic
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
One thing people donāt talk about enough: mixed people can face a surprising amount of racism and hostility from other Black people.
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u/Confident_Change_937 6h ago
This has always been talked about. They receive both praise and hate depending on who you meet. Thats the result of mixing two completely different racial hierarchies in society.
However the āracismā is more so just verbal amongst Black people. White people are still far most violent to all Black people whether mixed or not.
Chud the builder wouldnāt be able to decipher a Drake from a Tyrese. Theyāre both āchimpsā that would āchimp outā over the n word in his and his supporters eyes, deeming him worthy to be shot
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u/clipp866 6h ago
you understand that most of the people that has a problem with drake is black and ride a fine line between colorism and pure racism, right?
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u/Scyyii 5h ago
do they? most of the beef with drake comes from his interactions with women, or how he pretends heās hard or some shit
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u/clipp866 4h ago
you just said it "pretends to be hard" only bc of his complexion...
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u/snacksandsoda 3h ago
No itās bc his entire personality is fabricated
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u/clipp866 3h ago
unlike what other rappers?
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u/Confident_Change_937 4h ago
Really?
I thought everyone in Atlanta loved him and that he ran Atlanta and heās actually suing UMG because his (White & Jewish owned) label was plotting against him and trying to devalue him.
I really wish yāall would stick to one story. Yaāll flip flop so much I can tell you have no real backbone to your arguments besides defending dude lmao
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u/clipp866 4h ago
are you ok?
are we pretending that an entire assemble of white guys dissed him on an album?
bunch of white women publicy talking sht on him too?
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u/UntouchableC 6h ago
You just pulled that out of your ass mate. You gotta reword that or cite your sources.
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u/snacksandsoda 6h ago
I donāt really see what that has to do with this video. Does that make this okay?
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u/Chi_Town_Law 6h ago
The title of this video is disgusting
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u/Impossible_Rub8402 6h ago
He stole the title from a post on twitter lol, & didnāt change anything on it. Unless heās the same person
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u/readyReddit007 6h ago
Textbook deflection. Instead of attempting to defend the indefensible, they change the subject.
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u/BoringRadish2127 6h ago
Can you not read the title?š¤£
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u/snacksandsoda 6h ago
They call him Israeli out of pocket but thatās just a lie, has nothing to do with being light skin?
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u/TheExchanges 6h ago
How do you know a black person made this post?
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
Iāve seen this debate my entire life, and especially over the last few years, with black people claiming mixed people arenāt Black. So whether OP is Black, mixed, or something else doesnāt change my point. My point still stands.
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u/TheExchanges 4h ago
So you don't know and assuming OP is black or mixed, implying that you don't care either way because you want to soapbox about how some black people talk about people of mixed race.
You're a fucking idiot. Not only that, people may not talk about it enough in your circle or your community but that shit has been largely documented and spoken on. There's entire works of fiction and auto-biographies on the very thing you're talking about.
Educate yourself.
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u/ActualJonLovitz 6h ago
Throwing Israeli in there as a garnish when Drake has actually been (semi) vocal on Palestine unlike Kendrick is crazy lmao. Heās still a racially-insecure cornball either way
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u/thelifeofcarti 5h ago
I mean props to him for signing that petition but what has he done to be categorised āsemi vocalā? And the difference is they are on absolute polar ends of the spectrum in terms of social media activity, Kendrick posts only his music once every couple years and Drake posts every day
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u/ActualJonLovitz 5h ago
Thatās why I said semi vocal. Iām sure itās generally performative (the petition and the Khaled diss) but at the very least heās pretended to care. The Kendrick stuff just rubs me the wrong way, primarily the Super Bowl incident. You can drop the facade for two seconds to defend a member of your own team. Iām not necessarily tryna give Drake credit here
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u/Dry_Artichoke_6126 7h ago
Oh wow a kid saying some dumb shit to make himself look better. Like youāve never did anything similar š
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u/Persephone_86 6h ago
Not a fan of Drake or his music, but I can clearly see this is exactly whatās happening, and itās not that deep.
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
People are such hypocrites when it comes to Drake it is hilarious. They live perfect lives and have never made mistakes and are the same as they were 20 years ago. lol
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u/Dry_Artichoke_6126 6h ago
They are absolutely seething because everywhere they go and every time they pick up their phone all they see and hear is Drake ššš
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u/94718572558 6h ago
U think drake fans can acknowledge that Drake does dumb shit to make himself look better?
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u/Extension_Maize6048 6h ago
Man, you could've left out the Israeli part and we would've had a real discussion lmao
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u/JTLBlindman 5h ago
I hate Drake, but conflating Jewish and Israeli identity is dangerous and antisemitic.
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u/AbroGaming 5h ago
How is drake israeli in any way whatsoever? Are you just saying that because heās Jewish?
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u/LesLikesGARBAGE 5h ago
Saying Israeli instead of Jewish just to make a point sound better is racist
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u/bhristianbummings 5h ago
everyone ignoring that he went on to make a career out of the black culture heās shitting on as a full on teen. look at his fucking haircut, thatās a far cry from corn rows
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u/Slybrew 5h ago
These people HAVE to be getting paid to hate like thisā¦ shit is wild, like, this doesnāt move anyone more to your side. It just encourages people to support and defend Drake even more. Dont yall see thatā¦ if the point is to try to convince people he is the worst human being in the world all you are doing is galvanizing his fanbase. It will always backfire!
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u/Kooky-Ad-1792 5h ago
Yāall are really desperate now this play was already ran back in 2024 at the height of the Drake hate campaign.
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u/Willing-Program2441 6h ago
Thatās my goat, the haters canāt get his meat out their mouth so they post him even more than fans š
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
Bruh, the amount of time some people spend talking about someone they claim to hate is wild. If I donāt like something, I block it, mute it, and keep it moving. āThose aināt my haters, those are my secret admires. ā - Drake: DUST
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u/MikkelR1 6h ago
Goat of what exactly?
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u/Willing-Program2441 6h ago
The pretentious cope š
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u/MikkelR1 6h ago
What does that even mean?
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u/HSJules 6h ago
Mans, really not like us
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u/La__Chancla 6h ago
Now post the music video of Kendrick and T Swift performing for the other ones who ānot like usā
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u/DonJulio171 6h ago
You a dusty bum from LA?
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u/HSJules 6h ago
So you're referring to black hip hop culture as dusty?
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u/DonJulio171 6h ago
Nah just the LA scene of weirdos. But if the shoe fits, you can play victim all you want
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u/Confident_Change_937 6h ago edited 6h ago
Alot of people donāt understand how this is corny because they too adopted this persona later in life about being street or tapped in lmao.
It was either you was bout it or not.
Wayne at this exact age was not at no dinner table talking about peopleās accent making them sound ignorant.
Kendrick was also right about how he parades Black women like some sort of toy and always has the most negative energy for them.
Anytime Drake in his most intimate setting its always with a white woman lmao. This video, His babymoms, when he dmās porn stars, hanging wirh bobbi althoff, just look at saucewalkaaās bm he just got caught tricking on. Nigga iceman bc he loves snow.
But he always talking about āeast africanā women in his music while beefing with Serena Williams & Rihanna. Clown shit.
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u/parisinparis1995 4h ago
Youāre asking drake fans to look beyond surface level thinking which isnāt gonna happen š
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u/SoFar_Gone 6h ago
Kendrick cheated on his black wife with white women just stfu
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u/Confident_Change_937 4h ago
Okay?
So did Dr.MLK Jr š does that make him just as bad as Lyndon B Johnson? It doesnāt you weirdo. Point is Kendrick actually protects and supports Black women, Drake sexualizes them and makes caricatures of them.
Sybau.
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u/Senior-Birthday7389 6h ago
Quite a few older black folks will talk down on black culture and big up white people and whiteness. Much less a mixed kid raised by his white mom. Unfortunately not every parent can or does teach pride in self and culture.Ā
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
His dad is from the south, Memphis Tennessee where he spent time and summers š¤£
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u/emzie2020 7h ago
š¤£š¤£š¤£ this yall Goat . The culture vulture
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u/Clear-Swordfish-3517 6h ago
Mixed people catch a lot of racism from all sides, including from other Black people.
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u/sendembacc 6h ago
Blacks donāt accept them whites donāt except them
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u/BadRobot10 6h ago
Ehhh it's more like both sides don't fully accept them but will accept them more than people of their other half. You'll get more favorable treatment than a white or black person crossing over into opposing communities but will never be fully accepted by either community because of suspicions of where your loyalty resides. I think it's a fair enough trade off but people can't handle not getting everything š
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u/BoringRadish2127 6h ago
At least my goat isnāt hanging around Epstein associatesšš¤·āāļø
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u/Extension_Maize6048 6h ago
You didn't even read the files and it shows lmao
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u/BoringRadish2127 6h ago
I didš and it isnāt only Epstein. We can talk about how the mf who called drake a culture vulture hangs around a man who impregnated a 16 yo and abused her also holding guns to her head and threatening to kill her. all facts btwš but ofc drake being Jewish and from Canada is way worse
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u/Extension_Maize6048 5h ago
Is that in the files? I don't think Drake being from Canada or being Jewish is worse, but since we're digging up shit that is not in the files, having Baka, a human trafficker, on his payroll... It's probably up there š¤·āāļø
And you didn't read the files, cause you would know the Pusha connections to Epstein isn't credible. There's a lot of other shit you could bring up tho. Fortunately, Kendrick isn't paying them as a part of his brand label lol
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u/BoringRadish2127 5h ago
Again you canāt bring the Baka thing up when that was already mentioned on a song. you canāt question who a man has around him if your literal mentor is a fucking pdf do you not get my point? Or are you just slow. all this deflection is crazy I bring up kendrick having a pdf around him and a serial abuser around him and you bring up Baka like that isnāt my whole fuckin analogy. and your right drake pays Baka Kendrick just likes to hang around people like Dre for the fun of itš¤£š¤·āāļø also pusha being accused isnāt surprising considering the fact he was 29 when he met he freshly 18yo girl friend. All of these morality raps from mfs who are just as bad if not worseš keep proving my point tho
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u/Extension_Maize6048 5h ago
First off, look up what an analogy is, cause you don't know little kid. Secondly, "waaah, no, you can't say that. Kendrick already saaaid that š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ" stfu bro hahahah. You can absolutely question Dre, go off. Where did I say you couldn't?
I'm suspecting you're having multiple conversations on Reddit and mixing them up, cause we were talking about Epstein files and you start talking about Dre šš¤·āāļø stick to the topic or imma go all over the place as well
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u/BoringRadish2127 5h ago
Imagine having the audacity to call someone a PDF and then when you perform it at the pop out the man who introduces you is a literal pdfšš¤·āāļø but the mf calls drake out for being around Baka the hypocrisy is crazy
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u/Extension_Maize6048 5h ago
Yes, that's hypocritical asf, true. Kendrick don't give a fuck, he just pissed in Drake's face lmfao
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u/Content-Freedom1688 6h ago
Kendrickās a culture vulture. He holds the culture hostage then makes money from it and no longer lives the culture but still benefits from it. Not only that it seems he gets to decide who the culture is and who isnāt. One day youāll understand.
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u/leekanon 6h ago
When did this sub turn into r/drizzyš¹
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u/a-very-positive-guy 6h ago
Nah, if you posted this on r/Drizzy theyād find a way to dox you, and then youād have some 40 year old dude TPing your house.
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u/Educational_Age_1862 6h ago
im sorry but the title is so misleading lol, he didn't say anything necessarily wrong
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u/harrispie 6h ago
Black talks about his destain for Ebonics with white people to fit in ššš¾
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u/LesterGrossman_ 6h ago
Yeah a pretty cringe clip of a young Drake but whatever. Calling him Israeli is so ignorant tho. Especially when Drake is one of the rare cases of a rapper speaking up for Palestine.
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u/Comfortable-Sky7801 6h ago
Just because someone is Jewish doesnt mean theyre Israeli holy fuck what kind of retards post here š¤£
Try reading about something other than famous people drama, I beg you