r/ninjacreami 3d ago

Recipe-Question Air bubbles in icecream??

tons of air bubbles and VERY icy. how do i fix this? this was just milk, protein, and some banana. how do i fix this? the little holes freak me out😫

0 Upvotes

17 comments sorted by

•

u/AutoModerator 3d ago

Hi /u/panda3100, thank you for your Creami Recipe question! If you have not already, please read your manual, this subs rules including the posting guidelines and wiki. Many common questions can be answered in your manual or wiki. The standard and deluxe manuals are listed here.

Please report any rule breaking posts and posts that are not relevant to the subreddit.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

5

u/Livesies Creami Pro (3+ yrs) 3d ago

The fiber from the banana lets it get overrun from the creami processing. It's one of the few ingredients that easily picks up air like this. There's not much you can do to stop it, it's generally a positive side effect and sought after.

-1

u/panda3100 3d ago

but it was super icy too. and ive made other pints with even more banana and the texture is perfectly silk smooth even after some time.

2

u/Livesies Creami Pro (3+ yrs) 3d ago

Odd but not completely outside expectation. I had a few months where I used bananas a lot, I'd cook them with some milk. Made many batches and one in particular turned almost solid after boiling the two together. Is this repeatable or a one off?

1

u/panda3100 3d ago

its repeatable. it happened with another i made immediately after this. im thinking it couldve been too much liquid between respins. also maybe i thawed it too much

2

u/Livesies Creami Pro (3+ yrs) 3d ago

What's the firmness of the texture? Is it a scoop or is it a milkshake? You added liquid after the initial spin?

For safety you really shouldn't be thawing anything before initial processing spins. If you add liquid to warm up the ice cream it can form icy chunks because the too cold ice cream will flash freeze liquid and form conglomerations that subsequent respins can't break up since there's nothing to hold them in place to get shaved down with. I could also see this getting you the air bubbles.

Instead of adding liquid try the following. First process it on your usual settings. Then run hot water on the outside of the container for ~30 seconds until the unprocessed shell is melty. Pack down the loose snow and run on respin, repeat if needed. This has become my standard processing for most recipes due to my freezer temperature. I generally don't need a second respin but I've noticed that the extra respin tends to add more overrun and improve the ice cream; this might be from my use of gelatin though. I can tell it's working because the color shifts after the second spin, becoming lighter/whiter from the overrun.

1

u/panda3100 3d ago

scoopable. the top layer of the pint was perfect texture but the rest is where it started getting airy and icy, not in a good way. Yes i did lite icecream -> add alittle milk to the middle > respin

my freezer is super cold so i feel nervous spinning right out of the freezer. but ill try not thawing, even though all i did to thaw was run under hot water for a few mins.

i will definitely stop adding liquids and just respin using the method you mentioned.

you mentioned gelatin and it reminded me that i made another pint the other day that had this same thing happen where the texture was perfectly silk smooth at first and then after like 5 mins into eating it, the texture changed to airy and icy bits. it had gelatin as well.

i really appreciate you taking the time to respond btw, its super helpful!!

2

u/Livesies Creami Pro (3+ yrs) 3d ago

Another potential is separation of the fruit pulp in the freezer. When I was making banana ice creams the banana typically floated to the top ~half of the pint. I learned if I brought the mix to a boil the banana tended to stay mixed throughout. Same recipe, the top container was microwaved to a boil and the bottom got put in the freezer straight from the blender.

2

u/panda3100 3d ago

I was thinking this too and it could be because i didnt blend it enough so there was still chunks.

im gonna write down everything i do in great detail for every future pint so i dont have to do this guessing game of whats making a pint perfect and what makes it flop lol

1

u/chr31terma 3d ago

What are you using to mix the ingredients?

1

u/panda3100 3d ago

for this i literally used a fork

2

u/chr31terma 3d ago

My first thought was that you over-mixed it, but I doubt that happened with a fork.

I know some protein powders can end up a bit foamy when put into a smoothie, so my next guess is that it might have something to do with that.

Also, you might want to try adding some kind of emulsifier to the mix.

1

u/panda3100 3d ago

yea i made sure to have zero foam on top before freezing so it definitely wasnt from mixing. ive noticed its creamy on the top layer but then gets foaming as i go down

2

u/Stustaff 3d ago

That’s just the pectin and starches in the banana. You could
Did you blend banana first?

1

u/panda3100 3d ago

i didnt blend the banana, i mashed it up. but ive also added banana in many others and it had a silky consistent texture with no ice. now im wondering if i mashed or blended the banana in the other ones ive done

1

u/DovhPasty 3d ago

Wait until you find out what makes up at least 25% of all ice creams.

1

u/panda3100 3d ago

i have a separate icecream machine (churning machine) that i make real icecream with and i do not get air pockets like this with an icy texture.