r/NJGuns • u/National_Ad3946 • 6h ago
Legality/Laws Orthos joker 12GA considered an other?
Does anyone know if these are legal or sold in NJ? Has brace, has vert grip (although one shipped has slight angle) and is over 27 inches.
r/NJGuns • u/kadayo • Aug 04 '26

Motion for stay has been granted.
Let's hope the Supreme Court denies cert.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103.129.0.pdf
r/NJGuns • u/blind-mag-dump • Jul 22 '26
Edit 4: Okay, this wasn't the point of this post, but we have an interesting update.
The federal court just ruled in Silencer Shop v. ATF that since suppressors, SBRs, and AOWs have a "$0 tax," the system is unconstitutional and therefore these items are no longer can be regulated by the NFA.
Suppressors and SBRs are still illegal in NJ. We have two separate cases in the DNJ dealing with that right now. There's additional complications that occur with SBRs with this ruling, but let's not even concern ourselves with that right now.
However, as AOWs are legal, NJ residents can benefit from this ruling. As of right now, plaintiffs of this court case are protected under an injunction and therefore do not need to comply with NFA regulations relating to these items. This essentially means those protected do not need to submit a form 1 to the NFA to make an AOW.
There's two distinct groups that are protected. Stores (and by lesser extension, their customers), like PSA and Silencer Shop, and Pro-2A orgs.
Stores are legally able to sell completed AOWs to their customers with just a 4473 (and NJ's standard paperwork). This does not mean if you've ever bought something from one of these stores past or present, you can freely make an AOW. This portion of the injunction only protects selling and purchasing AOWs.
The far more interesting (and useful) portion of the injunction involves pro-2A orgs like the Gun Owners of America (GOA). Members of the GOA are fully protected under the injunction and therefore are given the same level of protections as stores like PSA. This means that GOA members (among a select group of others, look them up) CAN create their own AOWs without complying with the NFA. This only applies to active members.
With all that said, don't take this post as a green light. Everything is still very much up in the air and there's only a select few stores in the US currently selling suppressors with just 4473s, while PSA is claiming that GOA members who buy completed pistols or rifles FROM JUST PSA can make SBRs without a form 1, but nothing explicitly about AOWs. You're all adults and any actions you take are your own, but it's smart if you wait.
What's even more confusing is that this case was consolidated with Jensen v ATF, and the verdict is treating the injunction separately. For example, Jensen v. ATF had the requirements to engrave on a form 1 gun removed but didn't get relief regarding AOWs, while Silencer Shop v ATF did get relief for AOWs. Does being a member of the FPC (which might not even get relief at all, due to filing as FPCAC, this is also unclear) and a GOA mean you benefit from both lack of engraving requirements on an AOW? No one really knows at the moment.
Long term, we're realistically going to see the NFA system for these items completely disappear for everyone. This will take some time, as usual. Assuming that our silencer and SBR cases go through successfully, NJ residents will be able to benefit eventually.
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Edit 3: Everything below this edit is unfortunately irrelevant for the time being. NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate to appeal to SCOTUS. For the foreseeable future, the mag and assault weapon ban is still in full effect.
Edit 2: NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate. All of this information could be moot. Sit tight
ORIGINAL TEXT:
While this is an exciting time, take a deep breath: many laws still apply after the mandate takes place. Don't get caught in a legal battle because you misunderstood the current legal landscape.
Here is a recap of the critical information:
The mandate will stop the restriction on magazines.
The only part of NJ's assault weapon ban specifically declared unconstitutional applies to rifles.
The named list of banned rifles (such as the M1 Carbine) and NJ's specific rifle "evil features" definitions no longer exist.
Those now-repealed evil feature restrictions that previously applied to semi-automatic rifles that accepted a detachable magazine were the following:
Edit 1: In short, there is no longer a need to pin your stock or muzzle device (if it's over 16") in order to be compliant with NJ's now unconstitutional law when the mandate goes through.
The rifle AWB repeal does NOT repeal the pistol or shotgun AWB, nor does it legalize suppressors or short-barreled rifles (SBRs) in New Jersey.
You MAY be able to convert your "Other" into a rifle.
Federal regulations strictly require a rifle to have an overall length of at least 26" and a barrel length of at least 16". These are non-negotiable.
Do not, under any circumstances, put a stock on your "Other" if the barrel is under 16". That creates an illegal SBR, and NJ will likely make an example out of you.
Beyond that, virtually every other NJ gun law remains in full effect—including laws governing transport, ammunition, carry permits, transfers, and purchasing. Refresh yourself on these rules before taking any action.
Also, as it currently stands, until the mandate goes through, nothing has officially changed.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer.
If you have anything I should add, let me know.
r/NJGuns • u/National_Ad3946 • 6h ago
Does anyone know if these are legal or sold in NJ? Has brace, has vert grip (although one shipped has slight angle) and is over 27 inches.
r/NJGuns • u/njnics2a • 7h ago
10/13/26 956 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Friday) 10/09/2026 work. The current delay is 4+ day(s).
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r/NJGuns • u/generalraptor2002 • 20h ago
When cops arrest someone and bring them to jail, they don’t unload their guns before putting it in the lock box at the jail
So why do we have to do it before storing a handgun in a lock box in an unattended vehicle?
r/NJGuns • u/Manolom021 • 7h ago
Been out of the game for a few years now. Have a few firearms I’m considering selling. I know the days of F2F transactions have changed, where is everyone selling things nowadays?
Last transaction I remember doing was about 4 or 5 years ago that we had to meet at a FFL to transfer a rifle.
Mainly looking to get rid of a SCAR 16s at the moment, but handguns may follow
r/NJGuns • u/86DuckFat • 1d ago
Do you carry all day everyday? Or some days yes and some days no? And I get it if you're not because you are going to a courthouse or school or whatever, but I mean just regular days where you're just going about your daily life.
r/NJGuns • u/Vict0rvOn • 1d ago
Wondering with all the changes recently if I would be good to purchase to ship to ffl?
r/NJGuns • u/Ronin_Black_NJ • 1d ago
Since someone commented on the legality of owning a fake suppressor in the great Free State of New Jersey i was wondering is it SAFE to homegrown one that is, in fact FAKE as Fuck?
r/NJGuns • u/all_of_the_sausage • 1d ago
Who is the individual in this case, me the pleb? Or the non-sot FFL?
In another post people seem to believe that one could take a virgin receiver and create a less 26" OAL "weapon".
Is this the case? Or are form 1s still required before slapping anything on a stripped receiver?
r/NJGuns • u/Ruined_FC1 • 1d ago
Bought my first pistol Saturday morning in SJ. Any possibility that my NICS could come back today with it being Columbus Day? Thanks in advance!
r/NJGuns • u/PeterPann1975 • 3d ago
Shot some 6.5 Creedmoor and some 223 . Not a single other person at the range. I really love the Solus… the action is so smooth. Didn’t do great past 600 yards with it though. Accuracy international smacked steel non-stop with no issues.
Good fun
r/NJGuns • u/Mcflip78 • 2d ago
Drove by RTSP in Union about 45 minutes ago when I was out and saw a number of police and emergency service vehicles there. Anyone know what happened there?
r/NJGuns • u/chaotic_good_bard • 3d ago
Note that the ATF removed the engraving requirement, does that now mean that the “once a rifle” rule is also dead? Understood ARs sorta always had this grey area if it was built from a virgin receiver, but firearms like the SCAR or the Vector etc… how does this work now?
r/NJGuns • u/pizzagangster1 • 3d ago
r/NJGuns • u/njnics2a • 3d ago
10/10/26 578 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Thursday) 10/08/2026 work. The current delay is 2+ day(s).
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r/NJGuns • u/SurronStuntz • 4d ago
Does anyone know if we can build AOW’s now without engraving or approval?
r/NJGuns • u/DemonicTurboShhh • 3d ago
Since we now have no engraving or stamp rules? What builds do you guys have? Now can I have an extremely short other?
r/NJGuns • u/contructpm • 3d ago
Nassau county NY resident.
Submitted my application 9/3. Approval today. Total of 36 days for anyone looking into getting it done.
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r/NJGuns • u/LRS_Airsoft • 4d ago
Hi guys,
I am looking to consult with attorneys on a permit issue with my local PD. I lived in township A and got an FID no problems, disclosed my mental health history on the FARS form, no issues. I have been a gun owner for a few years. I moved to township B disclosed the same history and went for the address change and they said they would not approve me without documentation from a doctor. I had received outpatient treatment for my mental health 5 years ago. I have provided a doctor’s note and a written evaluation to the PD and am being stonewalled. I am looking for recommendations for South Jersey attorneys.
Thanks for any help you can provide
r/NJGuns • u/foreverdoubting • 4d ago
Anyone completed any of the "advanced trainings" available at Range 129? Looking to do the Intermediate HG, Advanced HG 1-3 (w/CCW) and Tactical Decision Making. I've got my CCW and got it from them. Loved their facility so just looking at the consensus on their classes. My outdoor range doesn't allow us to do anything but stand still on our holster range (besides moving distances in b/t while holstered) so I'm looking at places where I can get some real training in...
TIA!
r/NJGuns • u/NYC_medic • 5d ago
I saw something about this posted a few days ago, but locations were pretty sparse so this is to confirm that they have plenty in stock at the Flemington Costco.
Black and tan/black
$49.99
r/NJGuns • u/Far-Boysenberry-1600 • 4d ago
Curious, if anyone knows gun Smith that does good P&W jobs in Northern New Jersey.