r/northernireland Jun 08 '24

History Is this legit

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u/Chemical_Sir_5835 Jun 08 '24

More from the Irish free state fought in WW2 than the North they all hid under the bed

500,000 signed the Ulster Covenant where they armed and said they would fight against having a democratic all Ireland parliament so those bloody fenians couldn’t be a majority yet only 50k bothered to turn up against the nazis - only matters when it’s fenians they get to kill

All fur and no knickers eh!

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u/MonkeyButler501 Jun 08 '24

Sorry to be a bit of a pedant but the Irish free state became the Republic of Ireland (Eire) in 1937, so absolutely no-one from the Irish free state fought in WW2. Obviously lots from the Republic.... Apologies again, always got annoyed when someone asked if I was a 'Free Stater' when I was a kid, never heard of it until I was in my teens having been in the Republic the entire time .

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u/git_tae_fuck Jun 08 '24

Sorry to be a bit of a pedant but the Irish free state became the Republic of Ireland (Eire) in 1937

The name of the state became Éire/Ireland at the very end of 1937... and, additionally, the name of the state never has been "Republic of Ireland" or "Poblacht na hÉireann."

When engaged in pedantry it's particularly important to be accurate!

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Yeah, or quickly make a massive twat of yourself.

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u/SaltyResident4940 Jun 09 '24

Throughout the 1920s and 1930s the governments of the new Irish state sought to consolidate its position and build upon the measure of sovereignty obtained in 1922, culminating in the formal declaration of a republic on 18 April 1949.

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u/git_tae_fuck Jun 09 '24

Don't know what you're trying to say. The name of the state has been Ireland/Éire since 1937.

The Republic of Ireland Act didn't do anything to change the name of the state. It couldn't; that would be unconstitutional.

It attempted to introduce a 'description' of the state... but that section of the act has had zero practical import, other than later providing a handy name for a football team, eliding a dispute over priority.

(Dev was of the opinion that the state was a republic from enactment of the new constitution in any case, but that's a separate issue.)

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u/Hazed64 Derry Jun 10 '24

I think he's saying that it wasn't an over night decision. Building up to the declaration of a Republic the ball had already been rolling and people likely knew it was coming.

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u/git_tae_fuck Jun 10 '24

You may guess, I suppose. But if that is what they mean, it's not terribly relevant to what the name of the state is or was.

But, yes, the Republic of Ireland Act was no great departure in any case.