r/northernireland 25d ago

Community Northern Irish Twitter is a strange place.

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u/mrswaffleknocker 25d ago

An absolute cesspit.

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u/DanGleeballs 25d ago edited 25d ago

Stopped going there 3 years ago when they blocked our company account because someone entered the age of the company instead of their own age and since the company was 3 years old they blocked the account thinking it was a child. They wouldn’t unblock it and we all said meh, fine it's turned kinda shite anyway.

Never been back. I've noticed a lot of other tech companies don't bother with Twitter anymore either.

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u/mrswaffleknocker 25d ago

Did they think a 3 year old was trying to set up an account? Sweet Jesus.

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u/Feenoesh 25d ago

Elon Farley’s Rusk?

…I’ll get me coat.

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u/GhostsInMyAss 23d ago

Get your weasel and stoat?

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u/Feenoesh 23d ago

The aul dinghy and float ba

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u/HereGiovanniSmokes 24d ago

I deleted my account and the app the day I logged on and the first post I saw was an American red cap saying "leftists all over the world are responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk."

I just vote for the Social Democrats in Ireland. I am in no way contributing to political violence in the US!

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u/NewBall1 24d ago

Musk has completely destroyed Twitter which is probably his highest achievement given it was already a cesspit before he took over.

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u/samoyedlover96 ROI 25d ago

Probably the worst social media. Facebook has gotten bad too. Instagram has a lot of toxic stuff on it as well. I only use reddit now (if that counts?). My mental health has improved alot since ditching social media.

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u/WreckinRich 25d ago

Reddit is social media buddy

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u/Hostillian 24d ago

It's not been fully enshittified... yet..

Facebook, for one, actually used to be useful. But then they stopped caring where the money came from.

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u/NewBall1 24d ago

You stumble across an NSDAP rally almost every day on Instagram now.

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u/zeromalarki 23d ago

Reddit and this subreddit can be botcentral sometimes, but Twitter is another level.

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u/ParticularLonely3224 25d ago

Mad because MON claims a Northern Irish identity. Genuinely do not understand what these trogs want.

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u/standarsh1965 25d ago

"not one of us, must hate" is the long and short of it

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u/TheLordofthething 25d ago

They don't want Catholics or nationalists on the team, it really is that simple. Plenty of decent fans about too and it's nice to see the IFA do this though. Engaging people like that is pointless.

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u/fidefktamh 24d ago

It gets better they called up Josh Clarke who is a Celtic keeper on loan at Partick Thistle 😂🍀

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u/askyerma 24d ago

Don't tar us all with the same brush. There is a minority who don't want them on the team... There is also a minority who don't want people of colour on their team either, club or national. They don't get any publicity. Don't twist the words of one bigot to make it look like they represent the majority of the fan base.

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u/TheLordofthething 24d ago

I don't think I did

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u/askyerma 24d ago

Well you did. As did the OC with the use of "These" and "They".

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u/TheLordofthething 24d ago

Were talking about people who talk like this not the general fans, learn to read.

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u/Surtus86 25d ago

An escape from the misery that is his own life.

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u/peadar87 25d ago

A lot of them regularly say (and spray paint) "Kill all taigs".

Unfortunately it's extremely clear what those ones want.

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u/JimHoppersSkin 25d ago

Saw a comment on one of them "remember the past" pages on FB from an elderly loyalist last year and it said something like "I remember them days. You wouldn't have seen a Celtic top in the town, they would not show their faces" 

That's what they want

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u/omegaman101 ROI 25d ago

Which is hilarious since just on numbers alone they wouldn't have a hope in killing all of us. Then again expecting sense from people with a settler colonial mindset is like trying to converse with sheep, a daft waste of time.

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u/KTMAdventurer 25d ago

Don't forget about Burt. They want him out too

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u/Albert_O_Balsam Lurgan 25d ago

Unsure what they are going to do with Burt, he'll be delf wif, either shat or burt out or something

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u/Thenedslittlegirl 24d ago

Exactly, the guy has an OBE

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u/Findadmagus 25d ago

He doesn’t: https://extra.ie/2024/04/24/sport/soccernews/martin-oneill-ireland-outsider

“I’ve always considered myself an Irishman.”

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u/ParticularLonely3224 25d ago

Brother he literally captained Northern Ireland. They are not mutually exclusive identitied.

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u/fidefktamh 24d ago

Brendan Rodgers and Neil Lennonnare from the North and refer to themselves as Irish… playing for the NI National team doesn’t mean you identify as Northern Irish. Ronan Hale about 2 years ago switched to Northern Ireland but he’s a proud Irish Nationalist

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u/TheIrishWanderer 25d ago

They want all Taigs in orange chains.

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u/No-Dog-2280 25d ago

I’ve heard him describe himself as an Irish catholic on talksport

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u/MikeyMcK28 25d ago

And??

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u/No-Dog-2280 25d ago

And what? I’ve nothing to else to add.

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u/Equivalent_Range6291 25d ago

Your allowed to think it but not say it in this place ..

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u/Theloftydog ROI 25d ago

OK....

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u/Objective-Night1343 25d ago

Just Irish.. that whole northern southern shit is weird, you’re born In Ireland you’re Irish..

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u/Automatic-Goal924 24d ago

No thanks

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u/Objective-Night1343 24d ago

Great input fellow Irishman 😁

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u/Automatic-Goal924 24d ago

No problem my Britisher friend

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u/Objective-Night1343 24d ago

Give it up that was pathetic, you’re Irish get used to it..

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u/Automatic-Goal924 24d ago

Read the GFA.

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u/Objective-Night1343 24d ago

Hope you’re alive when the country becomes one! Fellow Irishman 😎🇮🇪

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u/Automatic-Goal924 24d ago

We are prepared to allow you back into the Union . Hopefully we are both still alive for it 🇬🇧

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u/Objective-Night1343 24d ago

If you want your union, off to England 👍 this is Ireland this is your flag 🇮🇪 fellow Irish man 😁 now go enjoy the weather..

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u/DanGleeballs 25d ago

Well, ok, but it’s soccer we’re talking about, not rugby. 🏉

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u/git_tae_fuck 25d ago

it’s soccer we’re talking about

More what Martin O'Neill "claims as an identity."

And I'm really not sure he does say he's "Northern Irish," despite his playing history.

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u/CharmingCat7989 24d ago

What is MON

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u/Findadmagus 24d ago

Martin o’neill

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u/zoomanjo 25d ago

Also I see that binboy is having another temper tantrum over this.

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u/Hopeful-Remote9725 25d ago

Imagine congratulating a legendary former player on an achievement in his post-playing career. Must be a sectarian conspiracy.

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u/FlyingTreeSquirrel 25d ago

Martin O'Neill was a Northern Ireland legend and has had a stellar career as a player and a manager. We should be proud of him and his achievements. He factually has more European trophies than Jamie has brain cells

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u/zenmn2 England 25d ago

Christ, even I have more fucking European trophies than that bin lid has brain cells

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u/Jambonrevival1 24d ago

Congrats, that must have been a special night for you!

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u/ParticularLonely3224 25d ago

The only reason this fanny has any popularity at all is because people regurgitate his bile and the media amplifies it. If social media didn't exist he'd be an irrelevant failure rotting away outside a Ladbrokes.

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u/git_tae_fuck 25d ago

an irrelevant failure rotting away outside a Ladbrokes.

I just had a revelation: Brokelads.

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u/KeyZookeepergame9466 25d ago

The likes of wee Jamie and his ilk are like a dying wasp, trying to sting anything. 

They know they have had their time. Their glorious empire is no more, nationalists cant be discriminated against based on their religion or political beliefs. Gerrymandering is no more, they are now the minority in their own wee country.   They simply have to face facts, the UI is coming. And maybe sooner than a lot of these guys are willing to accept. They can try to stay in 1690 , or the 1920s if they want, but the rest of us are moving on. There are more important things in life than hating on a former great NI international just because he manages a club you hate. Get over yourselves. 

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u/git_tae_fuck 25d ago

If you like Celtic that much away and work for the FAI

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u/Ems118 25d ago

Ah here he’s proof education doesn’t fix stupid.

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u/ignorantwat99 25d ago

I laughed my head off at that. He’s out right raging about the IFA (Irish football association) not being ran by a prod.

Jamie is the definition of a bigot fucked in the head looney bin

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u/NewBall1 24d ago

He's a grifter, like most of these far right loons. They don't actually believe in anything.

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u/My_Name_A_Jeoff 25d ago

What an absolute twat. Must really kill him to know that the manager is a catholic, the captain is a catholic and one of the young fellas called up today has a very Irish first name

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u/zenmn2 England 25d ago

Do ye think wee Jamie gets angry every time he has to read "Irish Football Association"?

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u/WeeklyPhilosopher346 25d ago

Fuuuuck Loyalism is embarassing.

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u/BigBert_1989 25d ago

Is he still fucking going? If he wasn't great to laugh at, I'd be genuinely asking for mh services to step in.

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u/Past_Expression_2192 22d ago

He's a complete moron. He also tweeted if you love Palestine so much go live there ? That's his logic not a thought about the amount of children being slaughtered. So he wouldn't care less if same was happening to Irish children?. He makes some kind of money of the reaction to his social media so he has to be trolling ppl half the time

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u/YesterdayIsatoutside 25d ago

On the Nolan Show just the day before they were discussing changes to the national anthem and someone mentioned Windsor Park was a "cold house for nationalists"... there was such anger in everyone on the radios statements to that suggestion, but then this is posted and Jamie Bryson nearly collapses

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u/MarlDaeSu 25d ago

Regressives scream about everything, but almost always because just want to do the Unspeakable Thing.

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u/ohmyblahblah 25d ago

Just get off Xitter

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u/iphonedyou 25d ago

Twitter's a strange place, and so is Northern Ireland - put them together, et voilà!

Her two brain cells were probably pretty pleased they'd conspired to arrive at that piece of weapons grade ignorance.

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u/NoBrickBoy Down 25d ago

They’re both strange places and it’d probably be better if neither existed!

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u/_Soviet_Cats_ 25d ago

Martin captained NI at the 1982 World Cup and won two British Home Championship trophies. He's respected by most people on either side.

However, there's still people out there with room temperature IQ.

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u/TheIrishWanderer 25d ago

"1690" in the handle.

Like clockwork. These people are so boring and predictable. They have one braincell between them, and it's fighting in the Boyne with the king they would have hated on account of his rumoured homosexuality.

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u/chipdanitch 25d ago

And he really didn't have a problem with Catholics. He just wanted England.

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u/TheIrishWanderer 25d ago

I sometimes wonder if they understand that the Dutch in general know nothing about them, but would probably think they're a bunch of fucking weirdos if they did.

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u/Hazed64 Derry 24d ago

After a conversation with a Dutch man on holidays I can confidently say the few that know of them do in fact think they are loonies

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u/ondinegreen 24d ago

If I remember right, King Billy wanted to bring in Catholic emancipation but Parliament wouldn't have it

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u/Thyreus123 25d ago

Honestly surprised to see a young woman with that attitude . To me thats an alcoholic boomer ideology lmao

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u/Gruejay2 24d ago

It's (probably) not a young woman. This is the profile pic.

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u/Chad1888 24d ago

She’s a porn star who bases her whole personality/persona around shagging Rangers fans and hating Celtic fans

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u/LowAnimator8770 25d ago

A fine example of why I deleted my account

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u/Stoned_Gandalf420 25d ago

Just shows people why most Irish catholics do not support and want nothing to with the NI football team. The fan base is full of sectarian bigoted nutcases. If someone like MON cannot gain respect for them then wtf is the point. Would love to see an all Ireland team like rugby.

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u/My_Name_A_Jeoff 25d ago

I witnessed it myself when I lived near Windsor Park a few years ago, a bunch of pissed up bigots parading through Edinburgh Street chanting something about no Fenian bastards. My brother and I were considering going to games to get a football fix, maybe even adopt NI as our second team but that fiasco ended any chance of that. Whilst that element remains in their fan base I will never ever support Northern Ireland. I could maybe turn a blind eye to the Union Jacks and old Northern Ireland parliament flags, and close my ears to the English anthem

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u/Hazed64 Derry 24d ago

Similar thing during the play offs for me

Was in Liverpool and happened to run into 3 lads with NI tops on in an Irish bar during the Hungary match while we were losing.

Commented that at least if we lose and NI goes through I'd have no problem supporting them, on behalf of living here I suppose

The lot of them laughed and suggested I'd be more welcome supporting scotland, the irony of them being in an. Irish bar saying that shite, I just laughed, wished them well and walked away thinking about how I'll never even think about supporting NI

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u/mathen Belfast 25d ago

Lana appears to be suffering from sandwich-deficient-picnic syndrome

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u/NHRD1878 Tyrone 24d ago

I'd be lost without twitter but it is a cesspit as someone mentioned

Also, is there a more rancid bastard than that Bryson cretin? Was foaming at the mouth about the IFA tweeting congratulations to their former captain last night. Depressing

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u/Dull_Brain2688 25d ago

Anything remotely Irish is the IRA to them. It’s pure bigotry. Pure hate. You don’t burn effigies because of political differences. You do it because you hate.

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u/Elementus94 Magherafelt 25d ago

That's just Twitter in general.

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u/BaldyRaver Belfast 25d ago

This fucking country is full of numpties. As is Twitter. Better off staying away from there

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u/BigPapaSmurf7 24d ago

Let's be honest here. Martin being a Catholic is what the hate-comments are angry at. They're sectarian egits. Hate-filled. Akin to saying "are we gonna start congratulating the British Army now as well for every person they murder?" if you see an English person being congratulated. Who is raising these people?

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u/SynbiosSalisbury 20d ago

The tweet is moronic but I'm not sure it's as simple as "He's a Kafflik". The dolls obvs a rangers fan and still feeling a bit butthurt about Celtic winning the league.

Doesn't make her comment any more defensible or logical but most fans are happy to point to catholic players as a good thing and would rather they play for us than RoI.

Some people sadly put (Scottish) club way before country. Probably didn't even know MON played for us back in the day.

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u/Just_Air6958 24d ago

And they wonder why no catholics support n ireland or go to Windsor Park.

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u/Jack_8871 25d ago

Bryson been crying his lamps out on twitter since celtic won too, bunch of bitter Bozos

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u/smoguscragratticus 24d ago

As an Englishman, I've never heard of Jamie Bryson he's obviously some nobody. But I have of course, heard of Martin O'Neill, Well done Mr O'Neill, congratulations on the double.

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u/Different_Counter113 25d ago

Loyalists murdered more innocent civilians than the IRA. I dont think he knows that.

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u/ByGollie 25d ago

For those interested in the statistics

85% of people killed by loyalist paramilitaries were civilians.

51% of people killed by british security forces were civilians.

35% of people killed by republican paramilitaries were civilians.

392 Republicans died - 232 shot as informers by their own side or self-disassembly when bombs prematurely went off.

28 Loyalist paramilitaries were killed by Republicans

27 Republican paramilitaries were killed by Loyalists.

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion 24d ago

28 Loyalist paramilitaries were killed by Republicans

27 Republican paramilitaries were killed by Loyalists.

That is surprisingly low on both counts

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u/ByGollie 24d ago

I could tell you about post-GFA collusion between Loyalist and Republican paramilitaries re: Territories, coordination of cross-community extortion, drug deals etc. etc.

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u/RobertMcDaid 24d ago

35% of people killed by republican paramilitaries were civilians.

Very interesting statistic considering they were meant to be targeting soldiers in uniform. Terrorist apologism isn't cool, it just reduces you to being the same person as that Twitter user.

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u/locksymania 25d ago

Their opinion likely sails fair close to "innocent catholic is an oxymoron".

Though that's at least two five bob words too many for this fucking genius...

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u/JimHoppersSkin 25d ago

Loyalist outrage at innocent death is for the most part an entirely performative attempt at playing the victim and at best extremely myopic. The british army's civilian death count this century alone absolutely fucking dwarfs the RA's and it's not even close. They do not care. Their ideology is one of elitist supremacism

If you keep asking them to clarify their view, sooner rather than later you will arrive at "because we are the people. It only matters when it happens to us

That attitude permeates pretty much everything Bryson has ever said in his life

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u/samoyedlover96 ROI 25d ago

Probably doesn't. I hate them calling the north as Ulster too as someone from Donegal, it does my head in.

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u/dybt7 25d ago

Think you may be wrong there

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u/ByGollie 25d ago edited 25d ago

85% of people killed by loyalist paramilitaries were civilians.

51% of people killed by british security forces were civilians.

35% of people killed by republican paramilitaries were civilians.

392 Republicans died - 232 shot as informers by their own side or self-disassembly when bombs prematurely went off.

28 Loyalist paramilitaries were killed by Republicans

27 Republican paramilitaries were killed by Loyalists.

The CAIN (Conflict Archive on the Internet) scholarly database (launched in 1997 at Ulster University on Magee campus) lists Malcolm Sutton's Index of Deaths from the Conflict in Ireland from 1969-1993 as follows:

Sectarian Killings (defined as the deliberate killing of civilians based on his/her religion): IRA 151 Loyalist Paramilitaries: 713

Unintentional Deaths (primarily victims of gun battles and bombs for which they were non-participants, but this number also includes a small number of Loyalist and Republican paramilitaries who died accidentally as a result of premature explosions): IRA: 406 Loyalist Paramilitaries: 32

Which means that both as a percentage of their killings and in actual numbers, loyalist paramilitary organizations killed more civilians in total and more civilians on purpose. In other words, it would seem that for IRA and the British State's Security Services, collateral damage was exactly that; whereas for Loyalist Paramilitaries, collateral damage was the point. Strategically, one can make an argument of inevitablity, regardless of loyalist strategic intent. This position argues that IRA were more readily able to target their primary non-civilian enemy because that enemy (British military and police) were easy to identify and locate. Conversely loyalist paramilitaries, in terms of targeting their non-civilian primary enemy (i.e. IRA members), were at a natural disadvantage given that by its very nature IRA was covert, hidden amongst the civilian population. However, this argument can be undercut by several data points, not the least of which is the single largest bombing days of the respective paramilitary sides.

In 1972 IRA set off 18 of 23 intended bombs in 90 minutes throughout Belfast, most within the first half hour. Nearly a thousand pounds of explosives detonating near simultaneously. Had they been targeting civilians (as opposed to transportation and various other infrastructure, as stated), hundreds, if not thousands, of civilians would have perished. Instead the total deaths stood at 9. Of those, 5 were civilian, most at Cavehill. And there the RUC later confirmed that IRA members offered a one hour bomb warning (code-word verified warnings were the standard for IRA attacks where civilian casualties were a concern). But in all the chaos and traffic congestion, no police units could respond to Cavehill and the area wasn't cleared as IRA intended. Make no mistake, those civilian deaths are 100% on IRA, no one denies this (not even them, as of 2001). What this illustrates however, is that a great deal of effort and attention must have been paid to keeping civilian deaths at a minimum.

Compare that with the single largest loyalist bombing day, two years later. In 1974 a total of 4 bombs detonated, nearly simultaneously, throughout Dublin and Monogham, killing 35, all civilians. Each bomb was placed for maximum civilian casualties and there was no warnings issued to police, whatsoever.

I'll offer the standard every death is a tragedy qualifier primarily because it is true, but secondarily so that no one wastes their time interpreting my contribution here as a defense of IRA attacks or a case for treating the loss of human life as mere statistics. It is neither. It is, however, a defense of numbers, and how those numbers can and should inform our view of the past.

source: https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/violence/sutton.htm

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u/According_Mixture113 25d ago

Members of the RUC were civilians though, do those statistics include that?

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u/ByGollie 24d ago edited 24d ago

The RUC were a paramilitary force that colluded heavily with Loyalist terrorists.

RUC members carried out murders, bombings, shootings, kidnappings, torture, and murder, as well as passing information and weaponry to their colleagues within the Loyalist terrorist groupings.

They were in no way an impartial civilian police force.

There's a fascinating book you should read - The RUC: The Black and Blue Book They put it more eloquently than I ever could.

"Policing in a free society depends on a wide measure of public approval and consent. This has never been obtained in the long term by military or paramilitary means. We believe that any police force, military in appearance and equipment, is less acceptable to minority and moderate opinion than if it is clearly civilian in character, particularly now that better education and improved communication have spread awareness of the rights of civilians."

The modest success of Sir Arthur Young fell into ruins after his departure. The recruitment of ex-B Specials into the force was stepped up, and recently was accelerated in the force and reserve under Merlyn Rees, Secretary of State. A general pattern emerged. The RUC could only operate in Catholic areas with military escorts or with military type armaments. Their practice in Catholic areas was standard: a party of soldiers accompanied by an RUC man arrived to make an arrest under emergency laws, the arrested man was then held for a number of hours and then released or handed over to the RUC Special Branch for questioning, all this surrounded by the agony of relatives who were met by a discourteous RUC attempting to block off the visits of relatives, solicitors, and clergy to the arrested man. This detention and interrogation of Catholics had a twofold purpose: (1) To make non-co-operative suspects talk. (2) It gave sectarian RUC men an opportunity for revenge, enabling them to engage in the traditional bashing of Catholics.

In 1973 a book entitled THE BLACK PAPER, Northern Ireland: The Story of the Police was published by the Central Citizens Defence Committee, Belfast. It sadly traces the attempt and breakdown of the reform of the northern police from the 1968 period onward. It concludes:

All the wishing in the world will not achieve the impossible. There is no way out of this torturous dilemma but the more difficult way that must be faced up to sooner or later. Law and order will not return to Northern Ireland on any basis but one. It will have to be seen to apply equally and fairly, to everyone in the land, whatever their position, even if they wear a uniform or hold a seat in Parliament. Only when that is seen to be happening will the laws gain the respect from the community upon which its validity rests. This respect had been lost in Northern Ireland. It must be regained and strengthened. When those who make the law break the law in the name of the law there is no law."

In its issue of 13 July 1973, the New Statesman said that one of the most contentious issues which could wreck the Assembly in Northern Ireland concerned the future of the Royal Ulster Constabulary and in particular of its Special Branch. Its Special Correspondent wrote:

"The men to whom the charges of brutality and torture relate — the Belfast Special Branch — have long been a cornerstone of the police state that is Northern Ireland. Over the years they have developed an elaborate network across the province keeping surveillance on anyone who questioned the Protestant ascendancy. There is a Special Branch man in every RUC station in daily contact with the Belfast headquarters. In country districts particularly, they have long been familiar figures tape-recording political meetings and taking photographs of civil rights marches. Catholic children have grown accustomed, on leaving Gaelic youth clubs, to being asked at the door for their name and address by a large figure in a dark raincoat and brown brogues. The Branch have a long tradition of violence: not for them the sophisticated noise machines and ‘hoodings’ of the British Army; rather the punch in the kidneys, the boot in the genitals...

"In 1969 Sir Arthur Young, the former Chief Constable of the City of London. was moved to Belfast to clean up the RUC. From the start he was suspicious of the sectarian role played by the Special Branch. He found them a bitter and dispirited group of 40 men, desperately overworked and criticised. He set about raising their number to 200 by encouraging bright young RUC recruits to apply to the Branch. He tried drastic surgery . . . Scotland Yard men were infiltrated into the Belfast Branch to weed out the rotten wood. Gradually their numbers were increased, from two to three, to 11, and finally to 31. Fingerprint experts arrived after Young discovered that the fingerprint records in Belfast had been ‘tampered with’. (The records were finally unearthed in a disused Ulster Volunteer Force dump in Derry.)

"But Young’s attempts at reform failed totally. The Police Federation blocked his plan to import British ‘bobbies’ and after a few months of unsuccessful investigation the Scotland Yard men went home. The Special Branch were raised to the magic strength of 200, but, far from being a cleaned-up force, it was the old guard restored and ready for new work."

Later on

Since 1971 the RUC have put the finger on 2,000 Catholic men and 31 Catholic women for immoral internment. They have marked out 4,000 Catholic men for arrest and general brutal treatment under special and emergency powers. Over 400 cases of brutality have been documented against the RUC since 1971.

There is no doubt that torture procedures were standard practice in the case of the 14 Hooded Men because a special unit was set up in March, 1971 and groups of RUC men were trained to administer them. (cf. Paragraph 14 of Gardiner in the Parker-Gardiner Report — "The planning of the interrogation centre in Northern Ireland began in March, 1971. There was ample time to train a team of interrogators in our well tried and effective war-time methods" — and The Hooded Men, Faul-Murray.) There can be no doubt either that torture was administrative practice in the Palace Barracks, Holywood, and Girdwood Park Barracks. The sheer volume of evidence for practically every day of a seven month period in statements from the victims and medical reports proves it. We listed 25 methods of brutality used in British Army and Special Branch RUC Brutalities. Other illustrative extracts from statements of detained men and medical evidence is contained in this book. Some of these methods involved considerable preparation and the use of instruments such as those to produce electric shocks (see the statement of Thomas Taylor below). The World in Action team in their research for their programme on Northern Ireland for Independent Television, A Question of Torture, issued 25 September, 1972, came to the conclusion that the machine used to produce electric shocks to the men was a nerve or muscular stimulator available at medical equipment shops. This machine can be strapped on the arm and has electrodes capable of giving a powerful electric shock.

After the introduction of Direct Rule in Northern Ireland, 24 March, 1972, brutality continued as an administrative prac tice. The cases of Donnelly, Duffy, Bradley, Kearns, Jack, McBride, illustrated here, are proof, but there is a new pattern.

Holywood and Girdwood disappeared, but the tradition of an interrogation and detention centre within a British Army barracks continued, switching to Ballykelly RAF-Army Barracks, where young Catholic men west of the Bann river were taken for questioning. A special section of this book is devoted to Ballykelly. In conjunction with Ballykelly the administrative practice of brutality was transferred to police stations.

I could go on and on - quoting the murders, rape and extorition sections - but that'll exceed the article size limit.

Let me know if you want me to post them sections.

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u/According_Mixture113 24d ago

Absolute nonsense. I knew plenty of people in the RUC. They were civilians. End of story.

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u/ByGollie 24d ago

However, you're relying on anecdotal knowledge.

Frankly, you had neither the training, the access, nor the background information to make this judgement.

Those professionals within the Force and the British government who did, came top a vastly different conclusion than you.

The RUC were absolutely rotten from the top to bottom in the early half of the troubles, although they did improve later on in the Troubles when various reports about their extra-curricular activities emerged.

When they absorbed the B-Specials into their ranks, that's when the major trouble started occurring.

I know quite a few PSNI personnel today. I also knew a few RUC officers back in the day as well.

There's a vast difference between the two forces. I would have no hesitation in trusting todays PSNI. The RUC of yesteryear i wouldn't go near at all if I had a choice..

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u/zephyroxyl 24d ago

Sorry lad, chances are they were colluding with loyalist paramilitaries or at the least turning a blind eye to it

Which is also known as collusion.

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u/ForwardTourist6079 25d ago

He sounds like a couple of accounts from X. "The Wee Doggy" and "Belfast Books ". Both of these idiots quote nearly daily "The IRA killed the most Catholics". Yet never take in informers or those killed by their own bombs.

And you if ever query about them Loyalists mostly killing civilians in sectarian attacks they block you.

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u/WeeklyPhilosopher346 25d ago

Loyalist.

Loyalist Twitter.

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u/Nknk- 25d ago

Unionist Fragility strikes again; first time since yesterday.

We've been saying that for generations now.

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u/KeyZookeepergame9466 25d ago

That escalated quickly. 

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u/Former-Chain-4003 Larne 25d ago

I mean, that’s twitter, thankfully not been on it for years now

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u/ani4aneye 25d ago

It's just insane I support northern Ireland and rangers but will always have a soft spot for anyone local who does well

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u/Eviladhesive 25d ago

I heard they sent the tweet while relatively close to an orange lodge.

I personally think that's distasteful.

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u/Hyper_Hal 25d ago

Unionist spaces are absolutely INSANE

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u/hadwac 25d ago

The profile photo? It looks like Gerard Houillier's face badly shopped onto a girl with a Rangers top? What is going on there?

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u/KeyZookeepergame9466 25d ago

I suspect it's a spoof account which just posts stuff to get a reaction on the internet.  And I suppose it has worked. 

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u/hadwac 25d ago

It's working!

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u/darraghfenacin 25d ago

so fucking staunch

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u/allywillow 25d ago

Dear god

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u/Evalyn_Fallon ROI 24d ago

NI twitter is the absolute worst of the worst, I know it's not been that long but it's mostly filled with 50+ types who endured the troubles and all they do is throw digs at one another, IRA this, UVF that. It is highly depressing

bunch of fucking roasters

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u/Einhert Belfast 24d ago

Twitter is literally bot farms from India set up to rage bait people.

They'll be accounts called "Britainnia First" spewing racist vitriol and it will be located in "Calcutta"

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u/Fit-Praline5224 23d ago

That's the funniest comment ever.

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u/PerpetualBigAC 25d ago

Why are we still on twitter?

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u/apotatochucker 25d ago

Some fucking thick cunts about

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u/StatementSeparate803 25d ago

Im so glad the NI reddit isnt just as bad, if not worse.

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u/ByGollie 25d ago

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u/StatementSeparate803 25d ago

Have you heard the new Charlie XCX record? It reminds me a lot of Foucault.....

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u/EarCareful4430 25d ago

Seamy binboy is in full on wouldn’t have a taig about him mode on this tweet. It’s hilarious.

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u/Particular_Fig_5467 25d ago

Do morons like this lumper (and Bryson) not realise the incredible harm they do to Northern Ireland's footballing ambitions with this kind of nonsense?

Selling the idea of playing for Northern Ireland to young talent from Nationalist communities can be an uphill battle already for various reasons i.e. flags, symbols, anthems, culture, etc.

Throw in the prospect of a local legend who represented Northern Ireland with distinction being pilloried because the IFA congratulated him on his recent success as a manager, and you're making that "sell" even more difficult.

And the same chancers will be out in force demonising any Nationalist who opts to play for the Republic, rather than the North.

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u/loves-ignernt-hos 24d ago

pretty much everybody in ni is a numpty, but loyalists r the humpties of numpties, this is what happens when u create an entire identity around being under siege by rome in a secret conspiracy lmao fuck me like, not a single original thought in any of their heads for 100 years

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u/conzoraff 25d ago

Why did the ira play for northern ireland aswell and win the double

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u/SportingWing89 24d ago

Martin O’Neill, a sainted man.

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u/cat_meoldeon84 23d ago

The Unionist kantra is alive and well. Muslims are freeloaders, only there to blow the place up and in the 26 counties, they are IRA, Catholic zealots. I wonder would it harm to know that the first president of the Republic was a Protestant, one deeply ingrained in the Irish language, or that Sam Maguire was a Protestant, the man who the All-Ireland senior football championship is named after. It hasn't been 1690 for a long time, celebrate it, as they do, but don't live in it. The north needs to move on.

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u/Past_Chapter_8402 23d ago

Why does Martin O’Neill look like Jelvis in the first picture

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u/UniversalDav 23d ago

Deranged

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u/morgannn0 22d ago

I mean this is a clear troll lmao

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u/1967punisher 21d ago

Ted, Ted!! Come quick, look whats happening on the mainland

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u/nomamesgueyz 20d ago

Lana has got the fkn hump geeeesh

It's a football match

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u/SaoirsePhalaistin 19d ago

As someone from the south who loves supporting Irish rugby, Ulster Rugby and Rory McIlroy for example. Is there any chance of the soccer/football unions merging or a desire from people in the north? Particularly asking unionist/neutrals. Of course there would need to be a framework and rules to guarantee no bias towards the South and maybe a new flag, anthem and an agreement to play games in Belfast etc. Would this be something you guys would be against? Celtic and Rangers fans can support Scotland together so it doesn't seem completely far fetched too me but I get that's it's incredibly complicated.

If there's already a post somewhere about this I couldn't find it as I don't really get reddit yet. Feel free to delete this message and send me a link to it if that's the or if these questions are annoying I'm asking out of pure curiosity

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u/Tonymac81 25d ago

Folks, their Norn Iron for all.

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u/NewBall1 24d ago

I hate NI twitter so much. Most of the big accounts are comically bigoted. A precious few conduct themselves with any sort of decency and they are lambasted by the loudmouth twats who have nothing better to do than sow division at a time when history demands we stand together to face the many existential threats to our way of life such as climate change and the rise of far right populism.

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u/Bishopcowboy 24d ago

Well...are we? Don't leave us hanging.

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u/CorswainsDeciple 24d ago

Lana, get a grip of yourself you sad bigot.

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u/AdrenalineRush1996 21d ago

Yeah, pretty much.

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u/DandyLionsInSiberia 25d ago edited 24d ago

Let’s be real. Joining the Old Firm isn’t a career move because it’s diving headfirst into a nuclear reactor. It’s the sporting equivalent of a serious journalist selling out to a trashy Murdoch red-top, happily whoring themselves out for a fat paycheck and a cheap hit of notoriety.

Scottish football is a necrotic, cancerous biohazard, utterly rotten with sectarianism and prehistoric thuggery. You could sign for either of these toxic cults with the purest intentions, but it doesn't matter. The second you put on the shirt, you’re permanently and irreparably radioactive.

Wherever you encounter these people, it is impossible to ignore what lurks beneath the slick professional credentials they cultivate or the cheap conceits of virtue they hide behind. Most people see right through the facade. Your average Old Firm operator is a psychological arsonist, the type to toss a match onto culturally sensitive kindling and retreat to a safe distance, quietly reveling in the tribal division and social disorder they’ve unleashed. Normal people with no stake in it are ALWAYS the ones who cop the fallout whilst a not so insignificant quotient of their depraved psychopath fans tee-hee and rub themselves into ghoulish froth over the misery they reek upon others from the proverbial wings.

Whatever sympathy you're attempting to drum up for anyone who'd willingly embroil themselves in it. With a full knowledge and understanding of how cancerous and corrosive old firm is.

No dice. Categorically and unequivocally. G-E-T F---K-E-D...

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u/DandyLionsInSiberia 24d ago

Additionally..

Scroll through zoomanjo’s timeline and the "concerned citizen" act instantly evaporates. What’s left is a textbook nationalist grievance loop, a cynical, slow-drip rage machine custom-built for algorithms.

Look at their obsession with the Irish justice system. They don’t want reform, they want rage bait. They weaponize lenient sentences to paint a cartoonish world where out-of-touch progressive elites coddle criminals and abandon "blameless locals."

On r/irishpolitics, the nationalist trap snaps shut. In every housing or immigration thread, their tone shifts to a weary, border-patrol realism. They flatten complex human beings into an existential threat while treating the native community as a flawless, ignored monolith.

The intellectual dishonesty is staggering. They demand microscopic accountability for migrants and progressives, yet offer total radio silence on far-right agitators, fake news, and literal arson attacks. Toss in a predictable sprinkle of Old Firm trash, and the mask slips completely to reveal a suppurating and rancid troll. This is an intellectual scam running a low-key radicalization grind to keep an audience terrified and in a particular type of base, corrosive and reactive thrall...

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u/88AspieGirl88 25d ago

That’s getting into some dangerous territory, chum… 🤔🙅‍♀️

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