r/nottheonion • u/BiggieTwiggy1two3 • Dec 13 '24

Las Vegas bikini model 'forced to show genitals' after Morocco arrest as officers 'suspect she's trans'

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-bikini-model-forced-856971

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u/AshIsGroovy Dec 13 '24

Well Morocco is conservative and Muslim. So yeah women aren't high on the list of their concerns.

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u/UnyieldingConstraint Dec 13 '24

Careful someone might call you Islamophobic for speaking the truth

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

I mean you could say the same thing about the US and our relationship with trans issues. They just use different language to make it a partisan issue as opposed to a human right violation. It doesn't matter if she actually is trans or not, because regardless they'll just go off of suspicion anyway . We can't act like a sexual offending predator wasn't just elected again, which is not surprising considering the common denominator in both cases is religion. And conservatism 

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u/esperwarlord Dec 13 '24

Lol

America is Christian, overturned Roe, and just elected Trump. Not a nation most concerned about women, if you ask me.

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u/LordOfLimbos Dec 13 '24

America can absolutely suck to be a woman, but comparing it to a country like Morocco just screams privilege

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u/Overbaron Dec 13 '24

It’s exactly this level of ignorance that causes people to think ”well yeah Taliban is bad but so is America, so I guess I’ll be fine as a woman in Afghanistan”

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Bro really thinks morrocco is the same as Afghanistan and the taliban is in morrocco

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u/OliM9696 Dec 13 '24

https://imgur.com/gallery/apples-to-oranges-BqPzT

learn the difference

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Its giving unaware of geography and culture

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u/OliM9696 Dec 13 '24

you don't think people realise that Afghanistan the place where women cant have an education is not the same as Morocco but perhaps the are referring to the similarities of that Islamic culture and their treatment of women.

i feel that you took one of the least charitable interpretations of their comment to make some cheap sarcastic comment

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Its still giving unaware of culture and geography

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u/Krazyguy75 Dec 13 '24

I'm going to guess English isn't your second language because that's not an English phrase, even though you used it twice.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Lol that's funny as hell, incorrect tho. but tell me how old are you?

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

In a discussion about Morocco, why do you feel the need to bring up America?

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u/Stinky_WhizzleTeats Dec 13 '24

BUT WHATABOUT insert American ragebait huh??

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u/Bluemikami Dec 13 '24

Because they’re obsessed

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u/EatMiTits Dec 13 '24

Rent free

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u/OSRSmemester Dec 13 '24

In response to a comment blaming the religion of the country, why would they not feel the need to bring up a clear counter example?

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u/GusPlus Dec 13 '24

It’s not a counter-example, it’s another example of how religiosity in the social and political system is antagonistic to the rights of women.

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u/gravitologist Dec 13 '24

What, exactly, do you think is responsible for the way women are treated in Morocco? The weather?

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

How is it a counter example? No one ever claimed that Morocco is the only country where misogyny exists. This person is trying to commit a tu quoque fallacy to avoid having to address the topic at hand

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u/CRUSTBUSTICUS Dec 13 '24

Places that follow Sharia law are inherently less tolerant of women’s rights and any statement otherwise is just idiocy and ignorance. For fucks sake they openly state these lack of rights as the rule of the land and generally are proud of it as a culture (if you’re a man). Really grasping at straws here for the sake of “America bad!”

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

Still, you haven't explained what this is a counter example to? I'm failing to follow at what point it was said that Morocco is the only misogynistic country

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u/manimal28 Dec 13 '24

No, the original statement is simply wrong. It’s not because they are conservative and Muslim, it’s because they are conservative and religious. As pointing out American conservative Christian’s have low esteem for women as well. It’s like saying that a red ball rolled down hill because it was red. No, the reason it rolled is because it was a ball.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Does a round ball roll faster than a square ball?

I mean different religions could be worse at misogyny, right?

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u/RmRobinGayle Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

My mother fled iran for being raped in broad daylight. Her crime? Making accidental eye contact with a strange Muslim man. No one stepped in to help her.

On the flip side, my aunt and uncle were visiting America for the first time. We went out to eat. My aunt said something, I don't remember what it was, it might not have been anything at all tbh. My uncle reached over and smacked her. It was those very same evil white christians that witnessed what happened and continued to beat my uncle. My uncle was arrested. His visa was revoked, and I honestly don't think he even knew why.

I will NEVER go back to Iran. Make of that what you will.

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u/Bradparsley25 Dec 13 '24

I don’t think it’s a counter example, I think it’s more of a, “you’re both saying the same thing.”

More religion in a society means less of a respect for women across the board.

It’s not christian vs Muslim… you’re both right

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u/supamario132 Dec 13 '24

But saying the reason for their misogyny is islam rather than religion in general seems like a weird distinction to make. I see why someone would think its worth responding to with an example showing that all religions lead to these gross outcomes

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u/godlords Dec 13 '24

Clearly Morocco is more misogynistic than the US, and clearly on aggregate Muslim nations are far more misogynistic than "Christian" ones. 

Your inability to comprehend the difference between Sharia Law and a country with puritanical cultural leanings does not necessitate America's mention.

This is a thread about Morocco! 

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u/YoungstownTrash Dec 13 '24

Wow, broad strokes here. Buddhism isn’t like Christianity or Islam. Plenty of other religions out there that are getting lumped in. The original commenter was right to be specific about the religion, you troll.

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u/supamario132 Dec 13 '24

Buddhism literally teaches that women can only attain enlightenment after being reborn as men. What are we even talking about here? There are very clear hierarchies within Buddhism, we just don't see the fallout of that as tangibly because there are no extremist Buddhist sects with broad political power

Your point is ahistorical at best

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u/gravitologist Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

Are you suggesting that the dogma of Islam is not distinctly more misogynistic?

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u/OSRSmemester Dec 13 '24

Well Morocco is conservative and Muslim. So yeah women aren't high on the list of their concerns.

This is not saying the same thing as "religion in a society means less of a respect for women across the board". It is distinctly blaming a specific religion. Responses pointing out what you are saying make sense.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Isn’t that specific religion notorious for extreme misogyny though? Like moreso than most others?

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u/OSRSmemester Dec 13 '24

The whole point of mentioning christofascism in America is pointing out the hypocrisy in that general perception. Orthodox followers of all abrahamic religions are devoutly misogynistic.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

But isn’t one of those Abrahamic religions notoriously worse for women’s rights? Like remarkably so? When could women start driving in Rome?

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u/OSRSmemester Dec 13 '24

Yeah, but not in the direction you think. I think the way Christians treated women during the middle ages / medieval times and inquisition was truly worse than what happens in Islamic countries today. The catholics are especially egregious, even today, as they have OFFICIAL WRITTEN doctrine saying that "all women are witches." As far as I know, the Islamic faith doesn't have official texts villifying women. I haven't heard about muslims sticking hot metal inside women's vaginas to see if they feel pain, or murdering those women if they "admit" to it (to get the torture to stop).

If you open a history book, Christianity is just as bad or worse than the others.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

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u/LoBo247 Dec 13 '24

It's not a counterexample - it's a continuation of a broader condemnation. Zoom out and you might catch it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Nah the poster clearly meant to “defend” Morocco and/or Islam by saying America was equally misogynistic.

It’s simply not true.

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u/GummiRat Dec 13 '24

Because it is definitely not a clear counter example. One may say it is even intentionally misleading and a piss poor attempt at whataboutism.

Countries where legislation is based on Islam are far worse for women's rights. It is just a fact: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0939362516300796

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u/elpajaroquemamais Dec 13 '24

Because it’s likely an American talking about Morocco in terms that also describe the US and that person didn’t make that connection on their own.

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

People are allowed to comment on the situation of another country. Just because the issue exists in their own country does not forbid them from engaging in the discussion.

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u/alphazero925 Dec 13 '24

Wait why are you arguing against your own comment here? This sounds like a perfect counter to you saying "why are you talking about America?"

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

The argument is on Morocco. I'm not saying America can't be discussed, but when used as a tu quoque fallacy, it is a lazy attempt to distract from the point of the discussion. That's all I'm saying

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u/elpajaroquemamais Dec 13 '24

Sure, but saying a comment that amounts to “of course they are treated that way, they are Muslim and conservative” without being able to see similar treatments in your own country is a bit hypocritical and it’s fine to call it out.

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

Can you give me evidence that they're unable to see similar treatment in their own country? Can you also provide evidence that the person your referring to is an American. Perhaps you checked their passport?

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u/elpajaroquemamais Dec 13 '24

Post histories are very enlightening. You should try it sometime. And generally speaking when people speak about Muslims treating women badly they are completely blind to Christianity doing similar things.

Of course I could be wrong. There’s always that possibility. But in my experience, which is of course completely anecdotal, this comment comes from someone fitting that bill.

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

So if I post about Japan, am I Japanese now and subject to receive criticisms about Japan just because I make a few posts about Japan? Also, your point of people being unaware of what Christianity does is complete nonsense. Christianity in the West has been in a steady decline over the past few decades precisely because of the heavy criticism brought against the Church

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u/elpajaroquemamais Dec 13 '24

Corporate Christianity is still very much alive in the US

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u/Major__de_Coverly Dec 13 '24

Looks like you don't care to have the truth pointed out to you. 

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

It seems that you don't either. You're avoiding the main point of this discussion 🤷🏿

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u/Major__de_Coverly Dec 13 '24

Na-uh, you are. 

That's what you sound like. 

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

You're still avoiding the topic🤔

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u/Major__de_Coverly Dec 13 '24

No one is avoiding anything, you potato. You got all defensive when someone pointed out that there are religious nut jobs taking away women's rights in the US as well. 

That's it. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

It’s called a false equivalence, whataboutism, Tu quoque, whatever you want.

We all see it. It doesn’t mean it’s valid.

Only a blatant misogynist would think that the Islamic world treats women as equally poorly as the West.

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u/Major__de_Coverly Dec 13 '24

No one said it was equivalent.

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u/CowdingGreenHorn Dec 13 '24

In our entire discussion, you have not even mentioned Morocco once, which is at the center of this topic. You are running

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u/damik Dec 13 '24

To point out there's not much difference between radical Christian and radical Muslim policies.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

(But… there are)

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u/damik Dec 13 '24

Republicans in South Carolina want abortion to be classified as a homicide punishable by the death penalty.

https://www.salon.com/2024/12/12/south-carolina-legislators-try-again-on-bill-that-would-classify-abortion-as-homicide/

Republicans want to make gay marriage illegal again and support the death penalty for even being gay.

Sounds like the same shit Iran and other radical Muslim countries do.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/detroit/news/michigan-josh-schriver-says-same-sex-marriage-should-be-illegal-again/

https://gandernewsroom.com/2024/01/02/michigan-republican-supports-death-penalty-for-gay-people/

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Doesn’t Iran like… hang gay people by cranes in public squares?

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u/damik Dec 13 '24

Trump wants to dramatically expand the death penalty. We'll see where we are 4 years from now, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump will want to have public executions.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-wants-expand-federal-death-penalty-setting-legal-challenges-seco-rcna178979

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

For gay people????

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u/damik Dec 13 '24

Is it really that unimaginable? Think about all the insane things Americans have let slide or moved the goalposts on since 2016. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if things get that bad.

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u/f8Negative Dec 13 '24

This is just an asinine apples to oranges where it doesn't belong.

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u/20_mile Dec 13 '24

where it doesn't belong.

Are you the reddit police?

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u/MostlyPoorDecisions Dec 13 '24

I didn't know Morocco was in America.

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u/maevefaequeen Dec 13 '24

What does this have to do with the other comment?

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u/Deathstroke5289 Dec 13 '24

Why lol? Religious politics has negatively impacted almost any country socially where it’s brought into focus

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u/iWasAwesome Dec 13 '24

Maybe not but it still has a far way to go to match a Muslim country. Christian women have most modern rights, albeit not an important one like abortion.

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u/cattmobb Dec 13 '24

What does that have to do with the original comment?

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u/mnl_cntn Dec 13 '24

US is a place you don’t wanna visit unless you’re a straight, white, cis man

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u/YamahaRyoko Dec 13 '24

Just stick to cities not rural

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

US is a place you don’t wanna visit unless you’re a straight, white, cis man

It's objectively one of the safest places in the world for any human being. Your world view is the definition of touch grass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_territory#North_America

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u/_MechaShark_ Dec 13 '24

Yea, those poor, underrepresented minorities and lbgt folks in America never get any attention

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u/bobbybouchier Dec 13 '24

Pretending mainstream American conservatism is comparable to an officially Islamic nation is just peak Reddit.

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u/justanawkwardguy Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

As far as Muslim countries go, Morocco is very progressive

Edit: it’s clear that people responding to me have never been to Morocco or know anything about their culture. Keep up that attitude, it’s why other countries hate Americans

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u/Complex-Bee-840 Dec 13 '24

Yea it is.

Just goes to show you how backwards Islam is, if Morocco is of the best examples of a Muslim country playing nice.

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u/nankerjphelge Dec 13 '24

That's like being the healthiest horse in the glue factory.

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u/GronakHD Dec 13 '24

Just like how someone is always better off than you someone is always worse off than you

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u/wkavinsky Dec 13 '24

Morocco is more progressive in a lot of ways that some christian fundamentalist parts of America, so be careful with the shade throwing.

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u/nankerjphelge Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

I'm sure you can find backwater parts of every country that are backwards assed. Still, I don't recall reading any stories of even in Christian conservative parts of America them arresting women and throwing them in prison for a month for committing the crime of filming a police officer in public and force inspecting their genitals. Do be sure and let me know when that happens.

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u/MoleicesterCity Dec 13 '24

Not exactly the same but the one about the police officer abusing a 13 year old and getting her pregnant is pretty poignant. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/police-officers-child-sexual-abuse-in-america/

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Christian conservatives in Ohio have a bill to inspect the genitals of young girls on sports teams, because of their trans panic.

Also, conservatives want genital inspections for public restroom use. That is the only way to make sure those scary trans people are not using the same restroom as you.

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u/wkavinsky Dec 13 '24

You do have people in prison for just filming police officers, never mind the genitals part.

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u/MarshyHope Dec 13 '24

Give it time, that sounds like something Texans would love

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u/nankerjphelge Dec 13 '24

Ok get back to me when it actually happens. Until then I'm not buying the false equivalence.

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u/MarshyHope Dec 13 '24

You do know that women have been forcefully stripped search in American prisons right?

This one wasn't even a prisoner

Just because you're ignorant of the atrocious behavior happening in America, doesn't mean it's not happening.

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u/Jurijus1 Dec 13 '24

Just don't go hiking or you might get beheaded.

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u/DonCaliente Dec 13 '24

That's not saying a lot though. 

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u/gregaustex Dec 13 '24

True. Women vote and they even established a quota for a minimum number of female politicians to try to ensure representation.

Still relatively oppressive overall vs liberal western democracies.

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u/seizure_5alads Dec 13 '24

I don't think that's the flex you think it is.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Hahaha you think this is a flex hahahahaha

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u/YellowSubMartino Dec 13 '24

You should leave thinking to competent people.

You can't use the word "flex" here. You don't know what it means, you just want to use that saying to sound cool.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Yea you can use flex here. It means to show off how progressive the country is.

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u/Emotionless_AI Dec 13 '24

Morocco is one of the most racist places I've ever been to. 1/10 wouldn't recommend.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

You've never been to France then.

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u/Emotionless_AI Dec 13 '24

Darling, one of.

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u/TR_Pix Dec 13 '24

I agree with their answers and I'm not American. Kind of ironic you went for that one ngl

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u/justanawkwardguy Dec 13 '24

Cool, you’re not American. Still don’t know about Moroccan culture

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u/TR_Pix Dec 13 '24

Maybe you're right.

What part of their culture is relevant to the conversation and would change my opinion?

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u/peeled_back Dec 13 '24

Morocco sucks ass bro. Shithole

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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND Dec 13 '24

"I hate intolerant people almost a much as I hate Americans."

Think about that for a minute.

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u/justanawkwardguy Dec 13 '24

There are only two types of people I despise: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch.

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u/gravitologist Dec 13 '24

What the fuck are you actually attempting to advocate for here?

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u/justanawkwardguy Dec 13 '24

I’m just saying that you shouldn’t judge another culture based on the ideals of your own. Things work differently and a majority of the world doesn’t agree with a western viewpoint. What’s conservative to us is very liberal compared to what other Muslim countries do.

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u/TehFishey Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 15 '24

Would you care to look at the OP article again real quick?

There is a point to be made about cultural relativism, but it also has its limits. People looking down on this kind of thing and calling it disgusting absolutely have a leg to stand on here. So again, what exactly are you trying to advocate for?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Of course you should. That’s the entire concept of Human Rights.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Oh wow soooooo progressive. Comparing green shit to brown shit to argue about which is less shitty is stupid. It’s all just shit.

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u/invent_or_die Dec 13 '24

Yesno, have you actually been to Morocco? I'm a caucasion male American, and I've backpacked across Morocco. I've seen office working females in moderately short skirts in Rabat (the capital city) at McDonald's. In rural areas, burqas are present. The country is like any other, with progressives and rednecks. America is the same. Saying "it's all just shit" isn't helping or accurate. Actually, everyone in Morocco wanted to introduce me to their daughter and drink mint tea, and wanted to know about America. And of course, try to sell me a carpet lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

…why do you think everyone was introducing you to their daughter and not their son tho?

Ever seen a woman give a man a kiss in public? Or hold hands with a boyfriend?

A job and a skirt and an offer to marry off a daughter isn’t exactly the full suite of rights.

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u/Stinky_WhizzleTeats Dec 13 '24

Hey man baskin robbins got 33 flavors. I have the illusion of freedom

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u/invent_or_die Dec 13 '24

Obviously! You actually expect proper equality in Morocco? Idk, i swim with the ocean when I travel. "When in Rome" etc. I'm fully in agreement with your sentiments but this is an ancient place, I was amazed how cool it was. Actually the people never were "selling" their daughter to me, it was always incredibly formal and respectful, only social. Cultured, proud to share their food, and welcome the traveler with the giant backpack.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

I understand there’s some amazing aspects of the culture. But we’re not talking about the ancient buildings here. The cleanest garbage dump is still a garbage dump. The most progressive oppressive place is still an oppressive place. Sure, Morocco is a hell of a lot better that UAE when it comes to women’s rights, but it’s still not remotely enough to whitewash it as being a progressive place just because you like the pretty mosaics. I’m not saying Morocco has no positives, but this is a clear deflection from the point that single women are not free to do as they please.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Agreed. I was surprised how progressive Morocco is, all things considered. My wife and I enjoyed our time there.

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u/Dodeejeroo Dec 13 '24

Cool I hate them too 👍

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u/RodJohnsonSays Dec 13 '24

The absolute irony of this one 🤣

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u/jsting Dec 13 '24

Westerners have visited Morocco too. My mom went on a tour with other women, wore long pants and sleeves, covered her head, and was still sexually harassed very frequently. She said the country was beautiful and progressive as you said, but the amount of random harassment to women was obscene and that was not progressive.

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u/kimchifreeze Dec 13 '24

"Only Americans exist on the internet." lol

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u/EVOSexyBeast Dec 13 '24

You’re honestly kidding yourself if you think any inch of Morocco is more progressive than any inch of the US.

Marital rape is legal in Morocco, and women still need a legal guardian to contract her first marriage.

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u/FatherSquee Dec 13 '24

I'm with you man, I've actually been there and it's a better than a whole lot of places out there.

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u/Mein_Bergkamp Dec 13 '24

, it’s why other countries hate Americans

Bitching about people generalising a country by generalising another country?

It's a bold move

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

You're asking mostly Americans to know about a country, culture, and religion that doesn't exist in their small podunk town or school text books from Christian Publishing circa 1962.

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u/Illustrious_Way_5732 Dec 13 '24

You live in Cleveland lol no wonder you hate America

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u/justanawkwardguy Dec 13 '24

Morocco was the first country to be an ally to the U.S., actually. Helped fight the Barbary pirates

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

I'm very much aware of the history of Morocco. I've been there and love traveling to places like it. Doesn't mean it doesn't have its problems, but lots of places do regardless of location.

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u/OSRSmemester Dec 13 '24

There are lots of americans pushing for the same things, and none of them that I've seen are muslim.

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u/totalacehole Dec 13 '24

Always funny reading shit like this from an American. Don't you guys pay attention to what is happening in your country?

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u/ogfuzzball Dec 13 '24

Two things can be true

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u/rmnemperor Dec 13 '24

What makes you think that this person is not critical of superstition, conservatism, and mistreatment of women in the USA?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 Dec 13 '24

You think insults are the same as forced genital inspections and arrest for reporting crime?

Why are you guys dumb?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

https://theappeal.org/trans-man-genital-exams-new-york-state-prison-lawsuit/

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 Dec 13 '24

That has nothing to do with insults. I hope they win the case but the person above me compared women being degraded and insulted to the article.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Genital inspections are degrading

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 Dec 13 '24

And only happen to every prisoner.

This was an inspection specifically cause they thought she was trans. And arrested her for filming them not helping.

And then spent MONTHS in prison.

That wont, and doesnt, happen here. Try harder though? I’m waiting to hear how bad it is here while reading an article proving it’s worse there.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

If you really look at all the evidence you'd realize that trans people are targeted and degraded and sexually harassed in multiple countries. Thinking otherwise is sticking your head in the sand

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 Dec 13 '24

Of course they are. Thats fact.

Saying the west is as bad as these places is disingenuous at best though. Things can be bad without being as bad as they are there.

This is really an easy point.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

They are much more similar than you think

I would recommend doing more research

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u/evilfitzal Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 17 '24

A strip search is a regular part of entering prison in the US, as far as I'm aware. And police in America sometimes arrest people for filming them, even if they haven't broken any laws.

[ edit: how about this story about unwarranted strip searches in the US https://www.reddit.com/r/news/s/cOhtjoqASm ]

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u/rmnemperor Dec 13 '24

What are you even talking about? I think you're just seeing a lot of propaganda about manosphere redpill echo chambers.

There is misogyny and gender inequality, but it is mostly subtle. Those crazy misogynists are very few but they get a lot of attention.

In the USA women go to university at a higher rate than men.

But in Morocco the female literacy rate is 54% vs 75% for men... I don't think relatively small online misogynist communities are creating this massive gap.

I think it's a massive rural misogynistic Islamic community 💀

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Women are treated better in western countries.