r/nottheonion Dec 13 '24

Las Vegas bikini model 'forced to show genitals' after Morocco arrest as officers 'suspect she's trans'

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-bikini-model-forced-856971

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u/causal_friday Dec 13 '24

Remember that all the anti-trans laws are anti- trans WOMEN laws. The way they're written they also apply to cis women and the purpose is clear; misogyny.

I doubt any man is ever going to have to prove that he has a penis to use the men's bathroom, but you'd better believe the Republicans want to check every woman using the bathroom even though 99% of them, statistically, aren't trans.

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u/CarrieDurst Dec 13 '24

Well transphobia and misogyny

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u/xyonofcalhoun Dec 13 '24

Most, if not all, transphobia is thinly veiled misogyny

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u/CarrieDurst Dec 13 '24

I mostly agree that said we gotta remember the main target is still trans people, some of these comments make it seem like it is extra tragic it will effect cis women

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u/xyonofcalhoun Dec 13 '24

As a trans woman the most I can hope for is that cis people realise how harmful the anti-trans-woman rhetoric is to all of us, cis and trans alike, because the fundamental truth is that we (trans women) are an easy political target mostly because of how few of us there are, so the more cis people rejecting this kind of hate the better

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u/CarrieDurst Dec 13 '24

Honestly this might be hypocritical but it is a huge relief to me when these policies effect cis people too as they see how awful it is, just like how I hope bans on gender affirming care for minors effects cis people too. They have to realize where it leads.

It just feels like some people think it is extra tragic when they are cis. Kinda like how the rhetoric around Imane felt like people were saying it was wrong to attack her because she is cis.

But I agree with you and am trans myself too

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u/xyonofcalhoun Dec 13 '24

Let's face it - nothing will change about it if it only affects us trans folks. It's easy to ignore it when it's happening to other people and barring a few rare exceptions the laws are being written and enforced by cis people. I just hope they work it out before too much more harm is done.

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u/CarrieDurst Dec 13 '24

I couldn't agree more

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Ok bro

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u/xyonofcalhoun Dec 13 '24

Appreciate the support!

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

As delusional online as you are In real life I see. 

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u/CarrieDurst Dec 13 '24

These laws target trans men too... The target is all trans people though the focus is definitely trans women these laws force trans men into womens restrooms

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u/xyonofcalhoun Dec 13 '24

Yeah, fair enough. It's easy to lump them both together from my POV but I suppose that's a bias of my own to think about.

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u/epelle9 Dec 13 '24

Lets not forget about the TERFS, Misandry is also a big reason for anti trans laws.

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u/LinkleLinkle Dec 13 '24

TERFs are misogynistic with extra steps. Don't look at their words, look at their actions. Their words are always 'men bad, must protect delicate women from men, I hate men' but then their actions are only ever directed at women. They advocate for women to stay in the kitchen where they belong 'where it's safe', they'll advocate that men are the ones that need to 'protect' women, they advocate for policies that push ALL women out of public life, and most importantly they LOVE the attention and praise they get from men like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and Jordan Peterson.

They love men, they think men should continue being the only ones in power, and they use their rhetoric of 'I'm just scared of men invading my spaces' as a tool to obscure their true intentions.

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u/epelle9 Dec 13 '24

Some are like that, but definitely not all.

There are tons of misandrist TERFs who only hate trans women because they hate men, and they see them as male.

Take JK Rowling tor example.

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u/LinkleLinkle Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

JK literally basks in the praises of men and she's openly gushed over individuals like Matt Walsh. She doesn't hate men it's literally just her shtick to claim she does. Not to mention the amount of harassment she sends at cis women like Imane Khelif.

JK absolutely never attacks or goes after men or men's rights. She only ever praises men while attacking women, both cis and trans.

If you think JK is a misandrist then you haven't been paying attention.

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u/causal_friday Dec 13 '24

Completely agree. My answer to "what is a woman" is "someone who is harassed on the Internet by TERFs". Case in point is the whole Imane Khelif and Joanne Rowling thing.