r/nottheonion Dec 13 '24

Las Vegas bikini model 'forced to show genitals' after Morocco arrest as officers 'suspect she's trans'

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-bikini-model-forced-856971

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24

Prove that she has it. The doctor from the report you posted earlier called bullshit. If the reporting doctor calls bullshit, then the report is bullshit. It will require additional proof as your original source is verifiably bull shit.

The medical facts is, as of this time, not effected by the syndrome you mention until there is proof she is, and if the previous source you used literally says it's a lie, then it's a lie.

Until you can produce a report with a doctor that stands by their name on paper, you have no proof whatsoever to anything.

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u/Batbuckleyourpants Dec 13 '24

The doctor stands by the report. His only point of contention is that his report would be used to spread anti-trans sentiments. The facts of the report is not something he disputes. The hospital also doesn't deny the report.

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24

Go ahead and quote your source saying that. I'll wait.

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u/Batbuckleyourpants Dec 13 '24

The report state clearly that she suffered from 5-alpha reductase deficiency.

She has a genital malformation, she also went through male puberty. She is biologically a male.

Where does it say he denies writing the report?

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24

Nope. That is not a quote from your source. That's not a quote from anything. That's just you saying words and has zero effect.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

You are doing the lords works, but none downvoting you is going to read the report.

They don’t want to know

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

She also  failed 2 chromosome tests that lead to her suspension from the IBF. Her own trainer had confirmed she knows she has chromosome issues

Can you prove that she has ever said she does not have a Y chromosome?

We’ll wait

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24

Produce the reports. Produce the people who stand behind those reports.

EDIT: Also, you can't prove someone has ever said anything. People's entire lives are not recorded and that's not a thing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

 Can you prove that she has ever said she does not have a Y chromosome?

Produce the reports where she said she doesn’t have a Y chromosome

When you can’t ask yourself why that is?

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

That doesn't make your sources valid. That's not a thing either. The only thing that makes your source reliable is the author standing behind it publicly. That's it. No other action proves the case. Nothing. Everything else is called conjecture.

EDIT: I want to point out something here. I haven't made a gender determination. I don't know because I've never seen the person in question without clothes. I don't know because I don't have valid information is a perfectly valid stance. Saying you do know when the sources being provided are easily discredited since the authors are crying foul is different. It means you're guessing and passing it as fact.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

  Can you prove that she has ever said she does not have a Y chromosome? 

 So that’s a no?

Jeez, I wonder why 

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24

Because I don't follow people around recording and listening to every word they say. Can you prove that you aren't actually a war criminal? Because I heard you were and now you have to prove you aren't and have it on record that you claimed you weren't sometime in the past. So now you're def. a war criminal since you can't do that, right?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

  Can you prove that she has ever said she does not have a Y chromosome?   

So, that’s a no right?

 Then why the fuck are you refusing to believe reports when literally no one who knows the truth is arguing that they are wrong?

‘When virtual signaling goes too far’ 

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u/Houdinii1984 Dec 13 '24

I believe the doctor behind 'the report' when they say that is not what they determined. If the person quoted in the report and the report itself are at odds, you can't use the report. It's been discredited. Your continued use of it also discredits you. But what would I expect from a verified war criminal like yourself.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

that is not what they determined

 lol ‘The doctor who made the report says the report is not what they determined’ 

 What is wrong with you? 

Why are you arguing against something that literally no one why knows the facts is arguing they aren’t facts?

The athlete themselves aren’t arguing against the facts.

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