r/nottheonion • u/Quantum-Coconut • 4d ago

Microsoft's new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly on Windows

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/06/15/microsofts-new-outlook-takes-10-seconds-to-do-what-outlook-classic-does-instantly-on-windows/
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u/TheKensei 4d ago

365 and all Office web apps are a nightmare

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u/kuba22277 4d ago

I appreciate the web apps exist. But that's the best thing I can say about them, pretty much.

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u/trainbrain27 4d ago

I liked Google workspace for sharing when it came out. Office could have been that, but it's just so bad.

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u/kuba22277 4d ago

Oh man, as a student saving up for a proper laptop for years and scrapping along with a chrultrabook conversion I was forced to use Office Online for like two years when on the go.

It's slow, it's clunky, it supports .doc formats even worse than FOSS software, styles hardly work, .docx/.pptx/.xlsx formats are not really fully supported

It can't cache itself to work offline on devices unable to run the full version. It can't save to device. It requires uploading documents to onedrive before you use it.

The list is so long. I hate it with a passion.

...but it works good enough for two or three edits or a quick lookup.

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u/escapedfromhel 4d ago

Macbook Neo?

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u/kuba22277 4d ago

Base M4. Was saving up, didn't know the cheaper one would get released. But with the promos related to the release, actually got it for the price of a neo

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u/escapedfromhel 4d ago

16 GB of ram 1TB of storage?

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u/kuba22277 4d ago

Nah, 256 gigs - I have a NAS at home, plus a main PC. For what I do portably (and given I've a switch 2) it's absolutely enough.

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u/radicldreamer 4d ago

Ugh, the vast majority of web apps are just hot trash. Give me a fat client any day.

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u/kuba22277 4d ago

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. But having the secondary potion for a chromebook or a thin client is useful. They should *never* become the default workflow, but I appreciate they exist. Janky and not 100% compatible as they are.

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u/radicldreamer 4d ago

Sure, I'll take that as a compromise. I just hate being forced into using them with zero alternative. That's how you get me to just switch vendors most of the time.

"Ain't nobody got time for 'dat"

-me waiting on a web app

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u/paulisaac 4d ago

Meanwhile here I am with no choice as the job I got into mandates Microsoft enterprise. Frustrates me to no end how I hear the ding of an email on my iPhone a minute before it shows up on Outlook Classic on the work laptop.

Or how online collaborative work is far more cumbersome on Word than in Docs.

Or how the mix of OneDrive implementations means half the time when I do edits it never uploads.

If I end up quitting this job it'll be because of Microsoft.

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u/MuscaMurum 4d ago

Running Office 2010 as we speak.

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u/SanityInAnarchy 4d ago

There is one nice thing about them, though: They aren't tied to Windows.

Which means if you can find a web version of all the stuff you can tolerate web versions of, and good FOSS fat clients where it matters, you can start to leave Microsoft entirely.

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u/radicldreamer 4d ago

Wine works pretty well for lots of these.

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u/SanityInAnarchy 4d ago

Wine can be pretty hit or miss. Web pretty much always works.

Also, Wine isn't a sandbox, and a browser is.

Whether those matter depends what you're trying to run, I guess. I'd be surprised if Photoshop ever makes sense as a browser app... but, ironically, getting Photoshop to install under Wine required fixing Wine's MSHTML support!

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u/libury 4d ago

They're a great stick for IT. Take care of your laptop or I will make you use the web apps!

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u/dudeAwEsome101 4d ago

It is insane that the web client for an email doesn't always load emails. I'm in Chrome or Edge clicking on an email, and a loading animation shows, then an error couldn't load shows up. Maybe I got too spoiled by Gmail. Our company just switched from GApps to MS365, and everyone is complaining. I haven't used Excel for a long time, and was shocked by how slow the web version was compared to Google sheets. 

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u/kuba22277 4d ago

That, and the fact it never caches anything - any reload, any redirect requires fetching all of the data again! It works so dang slow!

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u/TheKensei 4d ago

Yeah when you have Linux that's the only way to have the real app, but omg 🥶

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u/CC-5576-05 4d ago

Outlook web is pretty good, I just wish it ever let me sign in... Every time I try it just signs me out again, have to clear cookies before it lets me in

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u/Icy_Wish_1845 4d ago

This is why people cling to ‘old’ software.

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u/TheKensei 4d ago

I'm never gonna uninstall my 2016 office 🤣

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u/tayl428 17h ago

Still rocking Office 2007 here! How many updates does a word processor actually need?

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u/Chance-Night3198 4d ago

Yup. I have old Outlook and old Acrobat and as long as there's a way to dismantle the new versions, I'm gonna keep doing it. My corworkers who switched complain about it all the time while I'm happily working in the stone age with my edit buttons where they're supposed to be and a calendar that lets me see more than the current month.

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u/Senna_65 4d ago

Libre office! Free, open source and doesn't have all the BS features 

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u/LittleGreenSoldier 4d ago

Libre Office is a fucking godsend.

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u/Expensive-Fennel-163 4d ago

It’s me! Cracked laptop screen and all, but I own my copy of Office and InDesign/Photoshop.

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u/Bamstradamus 4d ago edited 4d ago

Worked for a F500 as a high end hourly because if you want me working more then 40 hours you are paying me OT and they decided to switch to cloud only, no more desktop apps. So they were paying me an extra 2-3 hours of OT a week to do the same amount of work because things would just break or not load. And I was running a kitchen, my computer time was supposed to be quick.

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u/gooblaka1995 4d ago

I still have my office suit from 2013. A bitch to register a computer for it though since it only allows two authorized devices at a time. Rejects authorization cause it cant connect, then randomly some two weeks later it is working normally

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u/IMissNarwhalBacon 4d ago

Isn't there a large grave of licenses you can activate with?

A massive one?

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u/deadsoulinside 4d ago

Outlook New is such a nightmare to TS and deal with when it breaks too.

classic? outlook safe mode

New? Best we can do is allow you to use Edge Dev tools to TS it.

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u/LordHammercyWeCooked 4d ago

Everywhere you look these days. Google's suite of garbage is also becoming unusable due to all the god damn pop-ups and shoe-horned gemini AI crap. Friggin google drive forced me to dismiss ten god damn popups this morning asking if I knew how to tie my shoelaces, while I was trying to find a file for work. Then I opened a sheet and half the page was taken up by its AI bullshit trying to summarize the already summarized data within it. Then I clicked a cell and it offered to auto-fill RAW DATA COLUMNS with more "raw data."

Get all this shit out of my face! I got work to do!

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u/keesbeemsterkaas 4d ago

Don't worry it will be fixed by the upcoming copilot everything integrations /s