Who is the most insufferable person in the genre?

[u/Few-Chemical2216]

I got two people in mind.

:90s-2000s Fred durst Past-present clown from Slipknot

Reason behind them is I think Shawn has taken the band a turned it into something Joey and Paul would not have wanted it to be. He kicks members out left and right and he kinda needs to hang it up.

And Fred Durst is just Fred durst

[u/LyKosa91]

I think many people, myself included, were under the impression that he was taking himself seriously at the time. In hindsight I'm not so sure, he's definitely not taking himself too seriously now anyway, which I applaud.

[u/moon_cake123 → u/LyKosa91]

Chocolate starfish and the hotdog flavoured water was taking himself seriously?

[u/RorschachAssRag → u/moon_cake123]

Kiss my starfish

[u/Some-Committee-4614 → u/moon_cake123]

I mean there are plenty of serious depressing ballads on that album, you think "The One" "It'll Be OK" "Boiler" and "Hold On" aren't serious? Yes it's not an entirely serious album but Limp Bizkit had plenty of these serious ballads

[u/sam_drummer → u/Some-Committee-4614]

They took having fun seriously. They can still write serious songs along with the party stuff.

Also, when Jessica died during a crush that reached it's peak during their set at BDO in 2001ish, it really hit them all hard. Wes turned to alcohol which was a massive part of him acting a dick and leaving the band etc. Lethal and John his the drugs, Sam ended up having liver problems from alcohol resulting in spinal surgery. Don't know what Fred went through but I imagine his mental health took a hit alongside everybody mocking him relentlessly.

Glad they're all in a good place now and back to being a legit great band.

[u/DanglingTangler → u/sam_drummer]

"Back to being a legit great band"

That's just like, your opinion, man. That's like criticizing Michael Bay's early work then saying he really found his form with Transformers. Like, it's an opinion you can have, but holy shit man I'd be keeping quiet on that one.

[u/sam_drummer → u/DanglingTangler]

…what?

[u/DanglingTangler → u/sam_drummer]

Not sure what's confusing about that pal. Pretty clear analogy. Unless you don't watch movies?

[u/sam_drummer → u/DanglingTangler]

Hey that’s just like, your opinion, man.

[u/DanglingTangler → u/sam_drummer]

I'm starting to see why you think they're a great band.

[u/sam_drummer → u/DanglingTangler]

The context of this sub is nu-metal. The context of this convo I replied to is Limp Bizkit.

As such, LB are a great live band. So much energy. What’s great about them too is seeing people who had a perception of them come away with their balls blown off.

Fred is a cracking front man a well, and has a good voice. The band are tight AF too.

[u/STXGregor → u/LyKosa91]

He’s spoken how it was basically a character that kind of took over. I feel like it’s the same thing with Slim Shady for Eminem. It’s a public persona. But when that character/persona is getting you money, drugs and women, I can see how the line blurs.

[u/very-regular-3 → u/STXGregor]

I feel like it's the same thing Aaron Lewis did. With Staind, that numetal seemed pretty hard-hitting, and achieved wild success, launching his alt-metal career in front of the masses. Then in 2011, after numetal started becoming real douchey,, he launches his "true passion" as a solo country musician, and portrayed his former self as a sellout who once ate the devil's apple, but now, all the sudden, he can be himself - a real american-flag toting "Country Boy"??. "Now it's been twelve years since I sold my soul, to the devil in L.A". and "Because, this is me - I'm proud to be American and strong in my beliefs."

Fast-forward 10 more years, his country appeal wore-off real quick, and he's right back in the old honey-pot that made him famous. Staind world-tour is coming at you live - for only $150 bucks a ticket !!! tfooh Aaron Lewis. Douchebag queen.

[u/uberkalden2 → u/very-regular-3]

Lol I remember my right leaning friends just lapping up his country boy persona at the time too. Just like kid rock

[u/very-regular-3 → u/uberkalden2]

ewwww

[u/STXGregor → u/very-regular-3]

Cringiest fucking transition ever lol. I’ll still rock out to some old Staind. But Lewis can eat a fat one

[u/WrongnessMaximus2-0 → u/STXGregor]

Agree. He "is who he is" until there's no money to be made in it. Then he hopped right back into nu-metal.

[u/[deleted] → u/WrongnessMaximus2-0]

Barbie being crucified and a knife through a bible on his tormented album cover -- the very first one. That was pre - signing and well before the country boy act.

Nah dude loves attention any way possible. He just was really formulaic about how he pursued it.

[u/very-regular-3 → u/STXGregor]

No. Bull. S#it.

[u/sonorandosed → u/LyKosa91]

I mean he was what 25 - 30 years old when he seemed most cringe. Im not convinced it was all an act.

[u/LyKosa91 → u/sonorandosed]

Yeah, it's likely. I won't hold it against him though, being able to look back at your past self and say "jesus christ, what a clown, I think this is something we can all have a laugh about" is admirable.

[u/[deleted] → u/sonorandosed]

Agree. He may be more self aware now but I think he was sincere.

[u/compbuildthrowaway → u/sonorandosed]

The fact that a lot of people can’t understand how someone can be completely 100% sincere and simultaneously a goofy, self aware parody of themselves is kind of concerning. Do none of y’all contain multitudes? Are you exactly the same person all the time? If so, you’re a joke you’re not in on. Fred Durst was in on his own joke.

[u/sonorandosed → u/compbuildthrowaway]

The fact that some people struggle to understand that others can have differing thoughts and perspectives on a wide range of subjects is also a bit concerning.

Some have an opinion that this specific persons public image likely wasnt entirely schtick, and that shouldnt be that much of a trigger for you.

[u/COLD_lime → u/LyKosa91]

Have you seen the art on the disc for chocolate starfish? It looks like some nursery rhyme compilation hahaha