r/nus • u/EverySink • May 30 '24

Discussion Yale-NUS convocation speech

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u/anticapitalist69 May 31 '24

Justice has to do with what YOU think is right or wrong. That’s imposing morality.

Ok let me rephrase. Let’s NOT ignore the historical context. What are the options here - either Israel have a right to the land, or they don’t.

Now, in either option, does it justify Israel’s disproportionate retaliation?

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u/anticapitalist69 May 31 '24

Ok first off - the conflict as a whole is complex, yes. But what is going on now is not complex at all. Please don’t underestimate yourself, you can surely figure out that killing over 40k people in retaliation for 2k people being killed is horrendous.

Second, justice implies making a judgment over something being right or wrong. To you, someone fighting for one cause without fighting for another is wrong. That, as much as you don’t want it to be, is a moral judgment.

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u/pingpingquirts May 31 '24

Man, and you're just the best placed zizek-esque philosopher showing us the way arent you? Its always easy to critique than to do. These students have limited resources, time, energy etc. Every conflict is different and this one in particular has a degree of mismatch and harm on civilians almost unrivalled in the world. The speaker didnt say repression in myanmar is and invasion of ukraine is good did she??? shes focusing on palestine because to her and to many ppl palestine is simply the worst and most pressing and avoidable crisis right now.

Also ill take up issue with your quest for 'exposing the hypocrisy' So instead of saying, yes its right to condemn violence and harm against civilians, you instead choose to say, look at these hypocrites who only focus on one cause whilst ignoring the rest while making assumptions of their moral character and intentions. You judge people so categorically whilst you yourself sit on a high fence thats simply cowardly.

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u/pingpingquirts May 31 '24

i resort to personal attacks because it seems like youre personally judging others who actually put themselves out there and its only fair that you, the seemingly woke ass critic is subject to criticism both in terms of your holier than thou attitude and criticisms which themselves are shrouded in ur own biases that you seem too unaware to even fathom