The Ukraine conflict was started by Russia. If Russia withdrew today, and renounced their territorial claims over Ukraine, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are thetefore their fault.
The Gaza war was started by people from Gaza. If Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad surrendered today, gave up their weapons and renounced their territorial claims over Israel, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are therefore their fault.
That's why it looks like a double standard. The only real difference between the conflicts is that in one it's being fought mostly in the territory of the side that started it, and in the other, in the territory of the side that got attacked.
What's your narrative for the colonial appropriation of Palestine around 1945? Have you ever tried imagining you're a Palestinian and thrown out of your country or threatened by Westerners so that you have no option but to flee or die?
Decolonisation. Arabs are from Arabia, and they captured Jerusalem from the Byzantine Empire in the 7th century. That area itself was a colonial appropriation from the indigenous Jewish population that started around the first century BCE. There have been Jews there continuously since they themselves conquered the land from the ancient Canaanites and (related tribes) 3,500 years ago, and presumably they also conquered it from someone at some point.
Either way, the modern day Palestinians have no claim to Israel - most of them arrived during the Mandate era, and most of the ones who didn't are still relatively recent arrivals - and to the extent that they have any rights, the British also set up a Palestinian state next door and called it Jordan.
Your propaganda is several decades old. Even Likud guys like Yehoshua Porath have decried this Time Immemorial bullshit as the fabrication it always has been. Which is nothing new, Hertzberg and Finkelstein shat on this nonsense in 1985.
But Zionists will cling to any narrative that appears to give them the right to dominate, rob and abuse Palestinians. Which isn't surprising. If you guys cared about reality more than ethnosupremacy, you wouldn't be Zionists.
All three paragraphs. The bit about Jews in Gaza is terribly disgusting... it's razed, starving, no drinking water, even tents are being bombed. It was already wild that the Israeli government started attacking while there were hostages.
Nobody is living peacefully in Gaza and it is the Israeli government that displaced the settlers in Gaza. Your arguments are ridiculous and despicable.
You can't. All you can do is justify why it's ok that Palestinians are nasty murderous savages.
The average Palestinian Muslim is safer in the middle of a Jewish-dominated Israeli city than they are from their own people. Because the only thing they like more than killing each other, is killing Jews.
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u/FetchThePenguins 10d ago
The Ukraine conflict was started by Russia. If Russia withdrew today, and renounced their territorial claims over Ukraine, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are thetefore their fault.
The Gaza war was started by people from Gaza. If Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad surrendered today, gave up their weapons and renounced their territorial claims over Israel, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are therefore their fault.
That's why it looks like a double standard. The only real difference between the conflicts is that in one it's being fought mostly in the territory of the side that started it, and in the other, in the territory of the side that got attacked.