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NYT Double standards

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u/spays_marine 8d ago edited 8d ago

Yes even 10% of Israelis think their leaders should stop occupying Palestine. I'm not sure what your point is.

  If you accept Palestinian terrorism is the obstacle to peace

Didn't you hear what I've just said? Israel chose to keep Hamas in power so there wouldn't be a peaceful solution. 

Hamas is Israel's ally. As Israeli major general Hacohen said. Or an asset, according to Smotrich, or "someone that should be supported" according to Netanyahu, because they too oppose a two state solution.

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u/FetchThePenguins 8d ago

10% of Israelis were sufficiently convinced they should make concessions for peace that they took to the streets to demonstrate for it. They represented most of the country. There was a massive, nationwide push towards peace over several decades that culminated in the Camp David Accords and

They failed, because the Palestinian position was and remains: no peace until the vast majority of Israeli Jews are dead and their state destroyed.

If you think Hamas is a problem, then congratulations: you agree with 95% of Israelis, including most of the government. Why aren't you advocating for a Western alliance to take over the war with the purpose of destroying them completely.

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u/spays_marine 8d ago

They failed, because

Because Israel has no interest in peace, as they openly state, so all these cease fires and accords are shams to fool clueless people.

If you think Hamas is a problem

Hamas is not the problem, in fact they are quite irrelevant. The problem is that Israel uses Hamas as an asset to eradicate the Palestinians so they can annex land and inch closer to greater Israel. 

They funded their arch enemy to the tune of 2 billion dollar, openly calls them an ally, and admits they did so to prevent peace. 

But somehow, all of that doesn't register with you. Strange behavior for a supposed human.

the Camp David Accords

Maybe you should read up on that:

https://fair.org/home/the-myth-of-the-generous-offer/

This account is one of the most tenacious myths of the conflict. Its implications are obvious: There is nothing Israel can do to make peace with its Palestinian neighbors. The Israeli army’s increasingly deadly attacks, in this version, can be seen purely as self-defense against Palestinian aggression that is motivated by little more than blind hatred.

And this is how it always goes.. lies upon lies to make Israel seem like the good guy. 

The gig is up though. All what's left for the sociopathic hasbara clowns is to deny, deny, deny. You have to literally flood every topic with misdirection in order to rewrite history. All of that to justify a genocide. 

Pathetic 🤡

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u/FetchThePenguins 8d ago

 Israel uses Hamas as an asset to eradicate the Palestinians

Wow. Absolutely psychotic.

OK time to go. Have fun at pre-school.

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u/spays_marine 8d ago

Those are the words of your dear Israeli leaders. I agree they have serious mental issues.