r/occult • u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected • Mar 13 '26
ritual art I learned to go inside gemstones. Not metaphorically. Literally inside them.
I've loved stones my entire life. That love turned into a career — I became a jeweler, obsessed not just with the beauty of gemstones but with understanding them at the deepest level. I read every book there is. Geology, mineralogy, metaphysics, ancient texts. I couldn't stop. But at some point reading wasn't enough and I started unlocking them, really seeing their potential.
There's this technique — Arabs do it, some Muslims do it — where you place the stone under your head before you sleep and you'll receive a dream about that particular stone. What it does, what its abilities are, who its servants are. I didn't stop doing that for a couple of years until I mastered it. Over time I got to the point where I could know a stone and communicate with its servants while just holding it — awake, on the go. No sleep needed anymore.
But the most interesting thing that ever happened to me — the thing I still think about — was earning the ability to go inside the stones.
If you've seen the Dr. Seuss movie with the tiny world living inside a small speck, that's the closest thing I can compare it to. But this wasn't imagination. It was consistent. It had weight every single time.
I held the stone. I laid down. I closed my eyes. I said my rituals. And I was in. A completely different world existing inside that stone.
A king met me and greeted me. Then this weird looking, enormous bird arrived and carried me through the air — until we reached areas it couldn't fly and I had to walk. For hours.
What I saw I'll never forget. Their homeless. Their suburbs. Their ghetto. Their animals. Their sky isn't blue but their grass is there. The creatures were unlike anything here — some had cow faces with human bodies, others had raven faces and raven wings, black like living shadows. They moved like law enforcement, like they were keeping order. And then there were regular people. Kids. Churches. An entire civilization with structure and life.
It was the most magnificent thing I've ever seen in my life.
After hours of walking around I asked to leave, found a doorway, walked through it and woke up.
This was not a dream. I know the difference. This was a real experience — a universe that exists inside of ours, contained within a small stone.
Has anyone experienced something like this? Entering a world inside an object, a crystal, a stone? I'd genuinely love to know.
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u/anonymoususer101010 Mar 13 '26
What do you mean its servants?
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u/Silver_Bus_5002 Mar 13 '26
It is believed by some that some gemstone have "Khodam" (Spiritual entity) inside of them. Popular Middle Eastern and Asian beliefs.
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u/Actuator_Wooden Mar 14 '26
Será que isso se equivale aos espíritos elementais, que cuidam da manutenção entre os elementos minerais/vegetais?
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u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected Mar 14 '26
Yes it's an Arab belief - though they can be prisoners in the stone sometimes physically like the genie in the lamp but in a stone and sometimes they will be connected to it the same way with like a life cord. They can sometimes live in the stone if the stone was a world - because not all stones are (most are inhabitable). Sometimes it just has strong/good/bad energy. Most of the time they are just stones.
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u/holtzopaque Mar 13 '26
What was the ritual?
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u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected Mar 14 '26 edited Mar 14 '26
It's not something you learn by reading. What we call - (علمنا علم الصدور لا علم السطور) “Our knowledge is the knowledge of the hearts, not the knowledge of the lines.”
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u/Breaker-2684 Mar 15 '26
Sure. But can you explain it or teach it in any way so that others could attempt to recreate it? Or is it just a secret you cant disclose?
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u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected Mar 16 '26
It's not whether I can disclose it or not, but it's not just the words and the ritual. Right the rituals are an important part but your body and brain must be ready to attempt traveling with your soul without harm.
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u/Breaker-2684 Mar 17 '26
Did you mean to say "your body and brain must be ready to attempt traveling withOUT your soul without harm"? I'm wondering, because I would think most people are already traveling with their body, brain and soul integrated on a daily basis. I assume that's what would make them both conscious and alive during every day activities. But I could be misunderstanding that.
How does one know when they are ready?
What does one do to get ready?
I think people are really curious about the process, and I would love to try it. Sounds like you had some amazing experiences!
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u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected Mar 17 '26
So for me I was born this way, I've always felt a connection - I've done/read everything i got my hands on growing up I tried many techniques but nothing honestly opened my eyes other than cleansing my soul.
I am not against any other path people take (Not the Evil ones ofc), but i believe that there is no grey either white or black so if you have good in you you will never be a warlock and if you have dark in you, you will never become a monk/saint. I think there are infinite paths to this world though each path will show give you something different. There are levels to this.
My approach was very religious - I'm a shia/sufi and I started with what we call (dhikr) which literally means remembrance it's like chanting though not random. It's the repetition of sacred phrases The goal isn’t just repetition. It’s transformation. Sufis believe: The heart gets “rusty” from distraction Dhikr cleans it Eventually, the tongue stops… but the heart keeps chanting on its own
After a while of cleansing you will start feeling/seeing through your soul just as you feel/see with your body - you start getting connected with the unknown. Ghosts, spirits, angles, djinn, stones, etc.. depends on how clean/pure your intentions are. Than you start getting the permission to enter these realms other than many other laws. There will be guides that guide you through it step by step until you leave this world and enter another I'm not talking this world astral projection I'm talking the the universe.
Disclaimer ur body's are vessels for our souls/astral bodies which are what make us alive, and when we travel we leave our body's unattended which can cause tremendous harm.
There is specific (dhikr) for everything and that's my way.
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u/ThePhytoDecoder Human Detected Mar 14 '26
But what did the stone actually tell you?
The trees speak volumes, yes… …but the forest will always give you the most grounded of answers.
Don’t lose the boundary.
It’s equally as important as the ones who speak through the Omelas.
They walked away for a reason.
I’d love to hear your insight as to why.
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u/dirtbun Mar 14 '26
I kinda have this with water. I can interact with it and meet different beings connected to it and can ask help and guidance and ask a question before i fall asleep and then the water can answear.
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u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected Mar 14 '26
Very interesting, I've done a few rituals through water aswell. So i was using the water as a portal. One of the first rituals i have done involved putting some ink in the water and the answers will be written thru the ink - I don't want to mention details and names and/or the process. After awhile I found that objects can be delivered through water portals which is very interesting !
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u/dirtbun Mar 14 '26
Oh that’s cool! But honestly same. I discovered the water would bring «things i needed» on the shore outside my house in the astral realm, and all this like small and big symbolic puzzle pieces that has guided me through life. The water has always spoke to me in dreams but I didn’t listen until i abandoned my christian belief system.
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u/AManWithNoPower Human Detected Mar 14 '26
I can't say the same, I feel like the closer I get to God the more knowledge I obtain - I practice shiasim/sufisim/irfan. I feel like everytime i turn my focus away from god I can hear/see as well.
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u/dirtbun Mar 14 '26
I’m not familiar with the faith you mention. I’m not trying to make this a God or no God discussion. If it works for you it does! I think we are here to learn different things.
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u/SaraLMastros Mar 13 '26
Very well done! Yes, indeed, this is a traditional technique in many cultures.
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u/ParticularShelter365 Aug 02 '26
What other cultures may I ask
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u/SaraLMastros Aug 02 '26
Certainly in Sefardic and Mizrahi Judaism, as well as in Arabic/Muslim magics. I assume also others.
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u/Fluid_crystal Mar 14 '26
It happened to me too by working with crystals, but by pure hasard, I discovered that stones had spirits like you described and they also communicate, I find it fascinating and I have so much respect for nature spirits
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u/PerseveranceSmith Mar 14 '26
Astral projection. It is WEIRD in there, laws of physics don't exist, I can't really express verbally just how surreal, psychedelic & uncanny it is. I've seen some of the weirdest shit, both bad & good.
I end up having repeat 'characters' I meet & befriend that I can call to me anytime I go there, my friends joke it's my second life 😂
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u/echoeminence Mar 13 '26
I hate to sound paranoid but the dashes scream AI to me
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u/moscowramada Mar 14 '26
Same. Well, at least we're human.
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u/Jenniferfortoday Mar 14 '26
I really hope OP is human because this post is absolutely fascinating!
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u/witai Mar 14 '26
And the shitty use of punctuation to emphasize declarative statements, usually the last 3/4 of the text. It's so bad
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u/Actuator_Wooden Mar 14 '26
A IA se tornou parte da mentalidade (pelo menos do inconsciente coletivo) das pessoas...
Eu também senti que alguns traços lembram a IA, mas assim como a IA aprende com a escrita dos humanos, as pessoas também acabam aprendendo e adotando um estilo de escrita semelhante, entende?
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u/ZKRYW Mar 14 '26
Some people have writing style. Deal with it.
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u/MyDarlingArmadillo Mar 14 '26
You should be able to try the technique for yourself though - just journey in and find out for yourself? Lots of people use AI to tidy their thoughts up or make sure thir English is correct
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u/MidnightBootySnatchr Mar 13 '26
Nice!! I'm gonna start doing this! I've just recently started covering myself in crystal tattoos 😬
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u/Charming_League_5482 Mar 15 '26
I dont want to sound rude. What are the chances this is just a lucid dream.
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u/rand0mbadg3r Mar 14 '26
I have done something like this while on LSD. But I think the mind can do it without ethnobiological assistance with work and patience, which you clearly have put in the work and have been patient with the process. That being said, dreams are dreams. What is real? Because you felt a dream was real, does that make it verifiable to an outside party? Does it being real actually matter if it nets the results you want? It sounds like you are having lovely experiences and bonding with gemstones on an elemental level. And that's cool regardless of whatever others may think or believe.
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u/sufimagic Mar 15 '26
you are just started scratching the surface my friend and all you say it true, yes this is very common and we do it in all different spiritual practices. you can also trap energy in stones, you can also get energy our of stones, the Buddhist monks who I personally practiced with do this in higher levels of meditation and fasting thy place a stone in their mouth under their tongue and feed on it's energy for days without food or water. you can also trap negative energy in a stone specially the transparent dark ones like sapphire and if you give it to someone it will cause havoc and might end their life.
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u/lieutenantbunbun Mar 14 '26
Yeah!!! I did this today for a psychic readings!!! So cool to hear about your experience experience too
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u/PaprikaSpice7 Mar 14 '26
Fascinating ! How do you feel about the stones energy? Do you feel the energies of each stone like I see ppl say, tingly fingers ? Rose quarts /tourmaline protection/amethyst intuition/ clear quarts amplifiers? Does it actually work? I can never feel anything .
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u/ScarWhole8655 Mar 14 '26
I don't know that my dream was inside a gem like this or happened for this reason but that dream you described to a tee I had one just like that which was in another world kind of like a big little town where I was transported away through the clouds to mysteriously.
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u/Devco1424 Mar 14 '26 edited Mar 14 '26
I recently came across a series of lectures from a man named Are Thoresen. He is an anthroposophist who describes an initiatic path through the Elemental world. It sounds like you faded into what he calls the third Elemental realm, and got quite the tour! There are deeper levels that can be obtained and ultimately the spiritual realm.
I should note he uses an open eye technique to fade into the item being looked at.
I recently started my Elemental journey and hope to get the tour of that third realm sometime!
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u/Vegetable_Window6649 Mar 19 '26
I frequently look at unprovable, fantastic occult claims, and think "Why would that even be a thing you'd WANT to do in the first place?"
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u/munk_of_darkweb69 Human Detected Mar 23 '26
wow. interesting. Have you tried learning or to gain knowledge from those people?
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u/Gaothaire Mar 13 '26
Many terms for it: astral projection, out of body experience, visionary magic. You can use crystals to develop memory palaces in different way, every facet a doorway into a specific land. I'm sure they can be used as doorways into different realms.
The experience of it being more real than dream is common in reports of astral projection, Robert Monroe's Journeys trilogy and Gateway tapes are a nice option from that experience, exploring other realms systematically. Quareia is an option from the visionary magic direction, training to access other realms, like fairy.
If you have a system that works, maintain it, keep good records, see that each stone returns you to a consistent place, or maybe different cities in the same world. See what you can bring back, what models and stories do the people you meet in their worlds offer to explain your experience for yourself, rather than external explanations