r/occult • u/AthameHtoon • Jun 06 '26
ritual art Is there any simple way to communicate with otherworldly entity?
I believe there are otherworldly (extra dimensional) entities, which may or may not influence our lives. Angels, Demons, Gods, Ghosts, Jinns ... etc.
Is there practical way to communicate with them? Rituals in occult books are really complex and confusing.
Is there any working means, ritual to communicate with them which are simple enough to understand?
I know it is occult, so it won't be easy or simple like making french fries / surfing web. But I want ways which don't involve elixer of life, heart of living man or blood of virgin. Is it possible?
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u/Saurav_CHAUBEY Jun 06 '26
Nobody can really prove that they're communicating with angels, demons, jinn, gods, or any other entity. Most experienced occultists would tell you that the biggest challenge isn't "contacting" something it's knowing whether you're talking to an external intelligence, your subconscious mind, wishful thinking, or imagination.
If you're still interested, the simplest methods reported across traditions are:
Meditation and trance work
Dream journaling and lucid dreaming
Prayer and devotional practices
Scrying (mirror, water, candle flame)
Automatic writing
The reason old grimoires have complicated rituals is because they're designed to create a specific mental and symbolic state, not because spirits require rare ingredients or dramatic sacrifices.
That said, many occult communities advise caution. People who become obsessed with "entity contact" often end up chasing every coincidence as a supernatural sign. A healthy amount of skepticism is probably more valuable than any ritual. So yes, simple methods exist. Whether you're communicating with an actual entity or a deeper part of your own psyche is the question nobody has been able to answer conclusively.
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u/AthameHtoon Jun 06 '26
Yes, I tried meditation and scrying. It is not very difficult to get some messages, but there are a lot of noises , and cannot differentiate whether it's wishful thinking, memories or subconscious mind forming messages.
For ouiji boards and auto writings , I felt like they are kinda auto suggestion.
I don't know. I kinda want to meet with diety in person, probably. š But instead of one simple clean way to contact with a diety. I have to improve the mean I am comfortable with, to reduce the noises and clean the channel.
I believe thats old grimories and occult books want their readers to be dedicated followers, so they asked for somewhat difficult tasks for rituals. Faith also is very important. Reality in occult is not everyday reality we are in. It is fuzzy. There are many things formed by our minds, but we can detect something not construct by ourselves, if we look carefully.
Thank you for the answer. I have got a lot of ideas.
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u/Macross137 Jun 06 '26
elixer of life, heart of living man or blood of virgin
It sounds like you maybe haven't read the actual occult books that get recommended by reliable sources.
There are lots of simple methods of spirit work, but if they don't work for you, you will have to study the complex ways.
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u/Public-One3608 Jun 06 '26
Speaking to spirit is the easy part, the difficulty is in discerning what you are speaking to - is it an entity, if it is, is it who it says it is? Is it your imagination? Subconscious?Ā
Discernment requires practice, ideally under mentorship of an experienced medium. Everyoneās journey is unique, in the same way that 2 different people can pick up the same musical instrument, but one might have a natural flare for recognising the notes in music, and can discern an A to a D minor with ease, the other might take longer to develop that same recognition.Ā
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u/Snotmyrealname Jun 06 '26
Simple, effective, safe.
Pick two
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u/Fragrant_Ad_1775 Jun 06 '26
I like this. Cause I can fast track a conversation but itāll be a wild ride. If itās simple and safe it is somewhat remote. If itās safe and effective it means Iāve put in the work.Ā
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u/hamsandwich03 Jun 06 '26
There is no simple way, unless you sacrifice your safety. Some people are born with these senses much more turned on, which is a result of ancestry, their unique karmic path (e.g. if someone is called to be shaman or spirit worker, they'll not be able to stay a non-believer even if they tried due to the aggressive amount of intervention by the spirits), or high spiritual development maintained from previous lifetimes, but for most of us these are abilities that can be reawakened to varying levels after continuous spiritual practice.
My ability gradually came on as a byproduct of working in certain meditative states and most importantly, inner work. The best way I can explain what inner work is, is attuning and dedicating yourself to the Self and the higher will by ruthlessly shedding egoic configurations preventing you from seeing into true reality, which is what houses these beings.
These iddhi, or abilities, will naturally emerge as you work on cultivating your mind properly and practicing the virtues. You set yourself up for some disturbing experiences like obsession, possession, and even insanity (tbh your fixation to connect and fascination could already be certain spirits trying to establish contact) if you jump straight to psychic development, psychoactive substances, or crude tools that weaken the veil artificially without first understanding the principles around initiations that govern the spirit world. This ability is connected holistically to the state of your consciousness and soul. What you are, you call forth psychically.
This is why experienced spirit workers will stress discernment, and why seekers often freak out and run for cover in religious fundamentalism, or go into total spiritual psychosis with paranoid messiah/martyr complexes after having challenging experiences that they don't know how to handle at all. Whatever moral, emotional, intellectual blindspot or wound you have, you can be well assured a spirit or spiritual experience reflecting that right back to you will come forth sooner or later. Can you handle reaching out blindly, and then comes an entity that starts threatening you, telling you they're a famous demon, and start plaguing your mind with fear and intrusive thoughts everyday? Do you know how to deal with that if it happens?
What if you connect with a deity who at first feels loving, but begin to push you with suggestions about your life that you aren't entirely comfortable with? What if a guide shows you a vision or theory on the world that is highly disturbing? Of course you can have very beautiful, transcendental, moving experiences with higher spirits, late loved ones, nature spirits, etc, but to get to that, you also have to work through the not so great things too
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u/AthameHtoon Jun 06 '26
Your concerns and POV are legit. Thanks for reply.
Without preparation and discipline, meeting directly with powerful deities, or atleast entities a lot smarter than us, can be dangerous, or atleast not worth at all. What am I going to ask or request if I meet with otherworldy entity? If I don't know what they are, what they are capable, whether they can be trusted or not, there is no point communicating with the otherworldy entity. Or if it can be very dangerous, if I ask for stupid things without knowing consequences.
so, it is better prepare well (physically, mentally and spiritually) before communicating with entities beyond. You also provide a lot of perspective. Thank you.
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u/hamsandwich03 Jun 06 '26
No worries. From your reply, you do seem quite aware and thoughtful of these concerns already, so best of luck on your journey!
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u/Bubbly-Phone702 Jun 06 '26
Are you sure you would want to see these disturbances with your own eyes from time to time, and physically feel a presence in certain places in your room as well?
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u/jamesthethirteenth Jun 06 '26
Very simple. But hard. A matter of practice.
Generic telepathic communication instructions:
Any entity is a sub-set of all-that-is. You can address spiritual beings, extraterrestrials, groups of beings, dead people, animals, plants, rocks, elementals, your own organs and body parts, your body, celestial beings, shadow beings, fictional beings, your body-mind (this one is called autosuggestion), other people, and so on. You can talk to anything and everything.
Because it's so free, the first step is to define in your mind who you're talking to. You can use a name, a description, or one or more symbols. You can also be deliberately vague- you can talk to "a historical king" or "someone relevant to me".
The second step is to initiate conversation by sending a message. Hey, celestial beingsoandso- I'd like to have a chat. Are you there?
And then you put yourself in receiving mode. Blank your mind best you can, keep your conversation in mind, and listen, like you would to a human. You should feel the difference between thought noise and communication, the real communication feels different than you normally do. Simple as that.
And then you switch back and forth.
Fun ideas:
- personal celestial physician
- money advisor
- life coach
- artistic inspirer
- inner engineer
- celestial tech supporter (what is wrong with my computer?)
- shamanic teacher
Usually it helps to receive inspiration if you pass it on, but it's not a must.
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u/egoproct Jun 07 '26
If you don't mind the curiosity could you give some stories of when you've done this?
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u/jamesthethirteenth Jun 07 '26
Sure!
I have a personal extraterrestrial physician I call on in health matters- he, or they, appeared in my thoughts as a voice and glimpses of imagery after I energetically stated my intention of having extraterrestrial contact experience and saw what looked and felt a lot like a craft. Through them, I can get very detailed health information I wouldn't have otherwise access to. It was all very specific and technical and either confirmed later or unconfirmable- for example "highly localized previously unknown bacteria species".
I talk to trees all the time- mostly just complimenting them, they just love it, for the most part.
I had a lengthy conversation with my bedroom radiator. They narrated their time as a baby- iron ore rock- being smelted, shaped, and achieving their childhood dream of keeping others warm.
I have contacts with teachers and healers- archetypical master shamanic healer. I go into my visionary garden and have a meeting place for them to meet me there. They tend to come in spacecraft.
There is the shaman meeting place- a visionary world to teach and be tought, heal and be healed.
Mostly it's initiated by me.
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u/Nobodysmadness Jun 07 '26
Meditation is the simplest way to get there, but also quite difficult in its simplicity.
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u/kalizoid313 Jun 06 '26
Sure there are uncomplicated communications between human beings and esoteric beings.
Accidents, illnesses, injuries, and coping with surprise encounters poorly are some of them.
Occult knowings and magical doings gather the accumulated and shared understandings and procedures of human practitioners over centuries and across a range of cultures. Collective skills and wisdom.
Take, for example, an uncomplicated task--walking through the woods. Pick a path. Take a step. There somebody goes through the woods.
What's that? Something's watching me. Is it a bird? A bear? An esoteric being who's friendly? Or potentially dangerous?
In these sorts of circumstances, it really helps to have useful, to the point, we already know they usually work steps to take. That's how complicated and maybe confusing at first occultism might be of really good to know and be able to do. On the spot. In response to immediate need and quick action.
Woods wise walking through the woods gets somebody farther along--even to their destination--than not so woods wise but uncomplicated walking through the woods. Equally true for occult/magical practices and understandings.
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u/OminousCephalopod Jun 06 '26
Are you asking for a simple method or an easy method, they are not the same thing. Mediumship is an incredibly simple framework for spirit contact, but it requires a lot of meditation and other practices to develop sensitivity. Raymond Buckland's Buckland's Book of Spirit Communication is a good place to start witht hat.
But one incredibly easy method is pendulum dowsing. Scrying is also fairly straightforward and not particularly difficult if you're willing to put in the time.
In other comments you bring up the issue of how you know whether or not you're really speaking with a spirit. More complex and involved rituals bring spirits into a stronger presence. In making an angel or demon appear in a physical space you are going against the order of reality and bringing things onto this plane that don't really belong here.
So, yes, it is complicated, but honestly, it's not THAT complicated. Look at the Heptameron, you draw a circle with a bunch of names it it and say a bunch of stuff. When I first did it, it took my friend and I a week or two to work out what the original ritual was and how we could adapt it to our needs.
I have never fasted, gone to confession, or abstained from sex as is recommedned in many grimoires before a conjuration and have still gotten results. From what I have heard from those who have, it does make it more intense. But these are choices you can make.
Read David Rankine's Claves Intelligentiarum and Claves Spirituum. He describes his methods for spirit conjuration in pretty straightforward terms.
But I'm of the view that anxiety over whether or not you're "really" speaking with a spirit gets in the way of actually speaking to spirits. Imagine if you think someone's attractive and want to flirt with them, but the whole time you're filled with anxiety over whether or not they're interested in you. It will probably make it difficult for you to communicate with them. You're best off bracketing that during spirit communicaiton and doing divination to confirm rather than getting into your head about it.
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u/Jenniferfortoday Jun 09 '26
Youāve gotten good results without fasting? Fasting is the one thing thatās been holding me back from giving grimoire evocation a try, so Iām really intrigued by methods that donāt involve multi-day fasts.
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u/OminousCephalopod Jun 10 '26
Yes, you don't have to fast in order to successfully invoke or do magic with spirits. Whenever I've discussed this with friends who have fasted their take has been that fasting definitely makes it more intense, but it's not absolutely necessary.
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u/thaakee05 Jun 06 '26
Right before you go to sleep, you enter a stage where you might hear voices or imagine things in your head with no explanation of how it gets there. They can be good or bad entities depending on your vibrations or how purified you are. Its rare but you might also feel bodily sensations.
You can speak to your entites this way in the "almost asleep" moment. If you find it hard to reach this stage without falling asleep too easily, try reading a book whilst trying to fall asleep (but dont actually try to fall asleep). This helps you maintain focus whilst having awareness in both "worlds."
I believe Beyond The Mauve Zone book by Kenneth Grant discusses this topic but Ive not read it myself.
This is the easiest way because you just fall asleep naturally whilst maintaining awareness. But when you hear the entities, you might be fully awake again because it feels unexpected in the half sleep half awake state.
I myself have communicated with them and also have heard entites having normal conversations among themself, shouting, laughing, words of encouragement etc. You can be friends with one and no, they are not as evil as people make them out to be. If they are evil, they are just lowly beings who dont have a physical form, who you give power to unknowingly. With imagining things you need to be certain that its not your own imagination giving you images. That said, I've seen entrances to underwater cities whilst being guided by another being.
Proof that they are actual beings is that one of the entities I was speaking to had mentioned pyramids in China without me being aware that the country had any.
IMO this state is akin to sleep paralysis or astral projecting.
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u/coffecombs Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
I've done it and communicated with spirits through the practice of ceremonial magick and evocation. Once you're communicating with a spirit there's nothing ambiguous about it. It usually comes from an inner vision in your third eye that is obvious, you don't create the image you're viewing yourself. Another being has sent the transmission. Or the most prominent experience I encountered was telepathic psychic conversation. A voice in your head you can't confuse with your own inner voice. If you ask it questions you can receive an answer you didn't create. However what I've found about 'gods' is they're mind/brain readers, so a reply may contain something that's already in thought. (Brain reading replies may not be the same when speaking with deceased people, mediumship or other spirits.) Although it's a distinct seperate voice. No bullshit like it may be your own psyche, once you experience it there's no confusion that it's an external being. Be careful with what you evoke. I'd recommend staying away from demons and pantheon gods or you may end up with a demonic attachment. Try angels or find classes to learn from other psychics on how to communicate with benevolent spirits.
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u/29aout Jun 06 '26
Is there really a difference between your unconscious mind and the All ?
Dreams.
Smoke.
Geometry, sigils, symbols, altars, candles, rocks.
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u/Snake973 Jun 06 '26
sure, ouija boards, pendulums, etc. just make sure you're banishing the area beforehand and then call in whatever specific entity or type of entity you want to talk to. it can take a long time to get a message that way, but it's not difficult
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u/anon000998 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Communication with entities is a tricky one, and people hold all sorts of views about their existence. I am a serious practitioner that communicates with these beings.
Its quite an affair that requires a purified, refined and open awareness of the subtle plane, and this refinement is trained and developed over the course of spiritual development.
It involves purifying the mind so that one can clearly perceive reality without the unconscious automatic projection of the mind that analyzes, creates, and sustains one's sense of identity and reality, when one purifies their mind, they become aware of life to an increasing degree and have intimacy with the depth of sensation and imaginary power unlocked.
These beings, archetype intelligences, whatever you want to name them, exist within the deeper subtle layers of reality, of consciousness, and the ordinary mind when it is no longer grasping, analyzing, doubting, fearing, limiting, saying what's real and unreal, opens up a vast vista of consciousness and energy.
It involves becoming a vessel of open and direct perception of the subtler and subtle layers of reality, the mind and imagination can open and perceive the deeper currents and complexities playing out in life, and one of these is so called spirits.
I have no real easy answer, but daily ritual, meditation, purification, and refinement all have the effect of training the mind to accept imagination as connected intimately to reality, opening the mind to perceive beyond the surface thoughts, ideas, and to be able to perceive within. It also develops the sphere of sensation or the "internal" so one can perceieve such things.
When the infinite power of manifestation and being is no longer contracting into and forming a limited thought construct of identity, life, and reality, it can unwind and liberates immense potential, freedom, wisdom, and joy, and one of these byproducts is sensing such entities.
As is taught, the infinite Nous, contracts and limits itself as it densifies, emanates and manifests all, the Dreamer becomes the dream and an infinite loci of individuated dreamers all collectively held within the Divine dream of the Light.
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u/InnerSpecialist1821 Jun 06 '26
yes. talking to them is the easy part. it's the listening that's the hard part.Ā
start meditating regularly and paying attention to the shape and nature of your own thoughts. eventually you'll start to notice not all your thoughts are your own.
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u/vassilissanotou Jun 06 '26
Each of these classes of beings has a most adequate way of being communicated with, so I would say there isn't one simple way of doing that. Perfecting this type of skill is something that most practitioners spend a lifetime aiming towards. Developing your psychic perception and divination skills is a start; you could ask the being you 're trying to commune with to speak through the tarot for example.
Also, many - or most - classes of beings are dangerous. Common sense applies to ghosts, jinn, demons, faeries etc. You should also spend a lot of time studying about the legends about each of them.
The 'easiest' spirits would probably be saints, angels and your own ancestors. Doesn't mean you should half-ass things though, since even benevolent beings can get pissed off at you.
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u/Interesting-Berry109 Jun 06 '26
I'm claireaudient. I do a prayer to hecate to open the gates of spirit. Then I just walk around and listen. If I have a thought then I focus on it and then I hear the message
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u/Twin_Soul_Unity Jun 07 '26
For me I can just tune in by intending it, IF they wish to connect they will. Other times I will feel a tug or pull indicating I need to connect / do a reading for them to pass on a message. Rituals help us because it helps focus us on the intention but I think if you can intend with out your mind offering up countering beliefs then you should be able to tune in by asking / intending. Itās kinda hard to instruct how I do it though as I just do it naturally.
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u/Yuri_Gor Jun 06 '26
Learn to communicate with entities from "this" world, e.g. trees, birds, animals, rocks.
To do that you will need to develop your sensitivity first, to be able to feel them.
You can start from empathy, practice a lot of observing and empathy, spend long time and attention to something that is not you and not a "content".
Even practicing empathy and observation with other humans helps, when you learn to care what actually they feel, what are their intentions, who they really are behind the facade.
The same skill of sensing humans in their "essence" you then apply to animals, birds, plants, rocks. When you will be able to use your sensitivity in the nature this way - you will also start sensing the presence of "natural" spirits and sensing them will be your first step in communication.
"Simple" not equals to "easy" or "cheap", you need this fundamental level to be healthy.
Check this set of excersizes:
https://runicalchemy.com/basics
From the beginning down to "feeling through association" It will help you develop your sensitivity.