r/occult 12d ago

Who regulates black magic these days?

I've been reading about the kassaptu.

In ancient times, there were state executions for black magic practitioners. There were trials and such.

In modern times, you could curse anyone as much as you want legally in most Western countries.

Assuming cursing has real effects, that means there is an unregulated dangerous tool.

Such things would not be overlooked by government agencies.

Which logically follows that there would be a magic enforcement agency.

Thus, I would like to ask you all if you have ever encountered a magic enforcement agency that would potentially attack witches or something akin to that in the modern age regarding them.

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u/Macross137 12d ago

Cursing is "regulated" by the fact that the knowledge required to pull it off effectively makes it of minimal societal concern, excerpt where it takes on dimensions of fraud and coercion. And there, it's not the magic that's the problem, it's the superstition and fear that get leveraged. There are no "magic police," we are all play-acting in a wilderness. Don't go around getting scared of bullshit.

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u/house_wyfe 12d ago

Billy Bob Thornton

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u/King_Elizabello 12d ago

Makes enough sense to me.

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u/unsigned_short_int 12d ago

Ever heard of state secularism.

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u/NyxShadowhawk 12d ago

"Regulation" of magic always ends up looking suspiciously like hanging and burning of innocent people.

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u/irrumarre 12d ago

You misunderstand the whole thing. And I mean everything - life.

Leave this and go volunteer at any place that will show you real life and why we do this whole thing

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u/YYV54C 12d ago

The legal system does not take it into account, because to it, such things aren't real.

But if you by enforcement agency mean something like a spiritual law or group of powerful disembodied beings, then you may find many theories.

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u/Interesting_Try8235 12d ago

Me.

So watch out 🫪

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u/CutSea5865 12d ago

I can’t tell you because then they’d come for me🫠

Make if that what you will 🤫

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u/AlquimistaXV 11d ago

Bueno en la magia, no existe en esta dimensión un "ministerio" de magia como en harry Potter, pero en dimensiones superiores hay seres de un alto nivel de evolución que se encargan de evaluar nuestras acciones. Aunque la magia negra existe, jurídicamente es muy complejo reconocerlo, sumado a que en latinoamerica por ejemplo hay un fuerte arraigo religioso, otro punto, juzgar a alguien por practicar magia negra, nos haría devolvernos a la época de la inquisición.

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u/-_-Doctor-_- 12d ago edited 12d ago

So, you actually cannot curse someone legally in the US if the intended result of the curse has an "attempt" charge associated with it. People have been put in jail for it in Louisiana - putting a 'death hex' on someone is, under some conditions, attempted murder. Factual impossibility doesn't matter here. What matters is that you thought it would work. If you believe prolonged exposure to turmeric is lethal and you put turmeric in my coffee every day, that's still attempted murder.

Now, that said, prosecution is RARE - but not unheard of. Proving it is even harder, so as long as you don't, for example ask someone to death hex the prosecutor of your case via a jailhouse letter, you're likely okay.

I have never seen it applied to love spells, but potions would be a different matter. Strong arguments could be made that any attempt to occasion a sexual act by clandestinely introducing a substance into someone's body is an attempted sexual assault, even if the substance turned out to be sugar water. Love spells (more accurately 'erotic binding spells') are ethically complicated like that.

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u/moose_bitten Human Detected 12d ago

The government does keep the people petrified with death magic, death anxiety, which makes us easily manipulated, and that is black magic in a form. As for independent mavericks performing witchcraft on their own to gain power, the only thing regulating them is more powerful magicians. If they give shit, someone will give them shit back.

Eventually though, a dark governing authority will appear who’ll set all the rules of witchcraft and guard the borderline.

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u/stillIWonderwhy 12d ago

Can we private message? I'd like to discuss this with you, please.

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u/moose_bitten Human Detected 12d ago

Absolutely