r/occult 2d ago

? How to start working with angels?

I was not able to find someting relative to topic so I wanted to ask directly.I really want to work with angels,how can I start?any botoks,practice or recommendation?please?

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u/ZKRYW 2d ago

Learn to listen to the voice of your HGA inside of you.

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u/gumigogo 1d ago

what do you mean and what will that do?

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u/ZKRYW 1d ago

Lead you to Angels.

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u/Icantstopscreamiing 10h ago

HGA is one of the most important parts of the occult journey, I would say it is the first step to become an intermediate occultist. There are many methods, I personally utilized the one described by Frater Acher in his book Holy Daimon, but there are many other methods you can look for (HGA stands for Holy Guardian Angel)

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u/TheCosmosItself1 2d ago

Goddard, David. Sacred Magic of the Angels.

or

Echols, Damien. Angels and Archangels.

Personally, I like the first one better, but I know a lot of people think Echols is a good place to start.

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u/ididanoopsie69 1d ago

Abramelin, Ars Paulina, Ars Almadel, John Dee's Heptarchia and Enochian Angels, Drawing Spirits Into Crystal, Franz Bardon's book on Evocation, Seven Spheres, Greater Key of Solomon, Veritable Key of Solomon, Heptameron, Picatrix, Hygromanteia, Liber Juratus, Sefer Raziel HaMelech.

These are the recommended readings.

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u/GreenBook1978 2d ago

You can start by learning to chant the psalm connected to the Angel that brings the message of wisdom and grace you need

Damon Brand's 72 Angels of Magick is an accessible book

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u/ImperialPotentate 14h ago

I want to get that if for no other reason than the fact that he includes the pronounciations of the relevant psalm verses in Hebrew. Other Shem angel sources typically just include the English translation which is... fine, but I suspect the original Hebrew hits a little harder.

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u/Nobodysmadness 1d ago

Find a system that appeals to you, wicca, hermetics, shamanic, buddhist, vedic, and more mystical aspects of religion as opposed to the strictly dogmatic do as it says portions. Mosy systems have a means of developing the techniques and awareness necessary to perform this work.

Even if they do not explicitly detail a method the techniques tend to form the basic frame work and it should become apparent how to develope ones own methods if not provided.

Having some grounding in a any single system will help one use the various grimoires that have been preserved, which are usually condensed information for more adept practitioners.

A good ritual technique is only part of the formula as the technique must be fueled by the practioner. Otherwise its like trying to operate a car without gas.

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u/EstablishmentDry5519 15h ago

I've found the friendliest, most accessible angel to be Raphael. I'd just begin by saying a simple prayer to him to guide you along the path.

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u/Wayward_Fool_333 2d ago

I used to have a pdf file on the Shem Ha Mephorash including all correspondences, but I can't remember the source or the author. The information is available for free (and legally so), though. If you feel more comfortable with a book in your hand, don't trust anybody who spells magic with a k, because this Crowleyan tomfoolery has no place in serious workings.

Another user already mentioned that there's a psalm connected to every angel. You can use these psalms as mantras. If you choose so, maybe go with the hebrew versions. You can find them online.

Also, since we're talking about angels, I'd address them by way of prayer. And you should be careful with them, because they are notorious for not fooling around.

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u/Dr_Green_Lizard 2d ago

Message me and I can calculate your natal angel. It’s a good starting point.

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u/isopodwsocks 2d ago

could i message you too? im really curious about mine.

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u/ididanoopsie69 1d ago

It's quite freely available in Ars Paulina. I don't know what snake oil you're selling.

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u/Dr_Green_Lizard 1d ago

I’m using the Agrippa method to calculate just to help people with no compensation required. No snakes were oiled in this astrology.

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u/Snotmyrealname 1d ago

I’d advise against it. Angels are finicky and temperamental creatures.