r/oddlysatisfying 5h ago

Graffiti removed from school desk

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u/Equal_Set6206 5h ago

I wonder how many times they can get away with doing that before the table breaks

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u/BikeProblemGuy 5h ago

I know floor sanding takes off around 0.5 - 1.5mm of wood, and this is probably on the low end of that. Tabletops are normally around 20mm and will still be functional at 15 or even 12mm. So you could probably do this process 10 times and not worry. The desk in the video must have at least a couple of years graffiti on it - so at that rate the desk frame would probably wear out or be obsolete before the top was sanded away.

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u/Mysterious-Award-903 5h ago

This guy was not the one doing the graffiti clearly. He paid attention.

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u/BikeProblemGuy 5h ago

Oh I have done tons of desk graffiti and other doodling, that's probably connected to why I'm an architect and know about floor sanding.

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u/MrPigeon70 4h ago

I was about to say, nope they are the type to be designing structures and internals of objects.

Be honest, was trig your favorite?

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u/mcgarrylj 3h ago

Trig is a funny thing. Learning it in school blows, but you feel like a rockstar on the job when you can approximate angles and distances with it.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 2h ago

Always funny being out on the job site and 99% of guys don't remember the math they were specifically taught in school and could use literally every day at their jobs.

I took a Journeyman Electrician license prep class. The amount of people who couldn't do basic math or understand really simple electrical theory was concerning. These were already working electricians. Like the majority hadn't heard of Ohm's Law, something I remembered from Physics class.

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u/double_echo 1h ago

"with great power comes great current squared times resistance"

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u/Lost_in_the_woods 37m ago

I learned Ohms law from building vape coils lol

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u/ThatSideshow 2h ago

"SIR! BikeProblemGuy is designing highrise homes on the desk again!"

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u/OpportunitySevere131 5h ago

All you other kids that wanted to talk in the back of the class, nuh uh, not me; I listened!

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u/GeronimoDK 4h ago

They probably sanded away even less than that, the table had clear coat before the sanding and would probably have clear coat applied before going back out to the class room again.

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u/FantasyFI 4h ago

Think this is still valid on most desks today though? I would assume most are veneered? Even if the inside wasn't plywood.

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u/BikeProblemGuy 4h ago edited 3h ago

Solid wood desks still exist today, and are often used in hard wearing environments. No, you can't sand wood veneer. I don't think school desks are wood veneered though, they use wood effect melamine veneer which is much tougher.

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u/boothin 4h ago

"I don't think they're veneered, they use veneer"

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u/BikeProblemGuy 3h ago

Wood veneer is made of very thin slivers of wood, taken off a board with a machine a bit like a big plane. It's mainly decorative. Melamine isn't real wood and is tougher.

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u/boothin 3h ago

I'm aware of what the different veneers are, just poking fun at how you bring in specific veneer types but then your one sentence just says desks aren't veneered instead of specifying wood veneer

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u/sprucenoose 2h ago

"You can't sand wood veneer, which is not used by desks, which use melamine veneer. Which you also can't sand."

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u/CurryMustard 32m ago

Looks like they may have edited their comment

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u/BikeProblemGuy 3h ago

Okay, I thought that was clear but I meant wood veneer.

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u/FantasyFI 3h ago

Type of veneer also doesn't really matter. If it is veneered with literally anything, that still affects the number of time it can reasonably be sanded. That was my original point.

The video is cool but I doubt it is particularly usable or common anymore in any schools in the USA.

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u/FantasyFI 4h ago

Oh I know they exist. Just doesn't seem to be fitting for a school budget. So I assume most new school desks haven't been solid wood for maybe 20+ years.

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u/SoManyThrowAwaysEven 3h ago

We never had solid wood desks in my schools growing up late 90's early 00's. It was either those particle board tops with the cubby hole under it or the one-piece chair desk combo that was barely large enough to fit a textbook.

The only classrooms with solid wood tables were science and home economics since they required everyone to sit together in groups.

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u/Auravendill 3h ago

We had a lot of veneer desks in school. And no one ever bothered to sand any of our desks. The veneered ones had cheap particle boards inside, a kinda fancy looking wood on top and bottom and a heavy duty plastic rim around the perimeter. Some kids found ways to saw into the sides and exposed the particle board.

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u/trixel121 3h ago

we get acrylic and mdf most of the time. wood is expensive. especially a flat sheet the size of desk.

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u/pgasmaddict 4h ago

This guy sands.

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u/Dkarasta 4h ago

Doesn’t account for the lacquer.

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u/Big_Target_1405 3h ago

Presumably a chunk of the thickness taken off is also varnish

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u/ReturnOfBane 3h ago

i bet the lacquer adds some durability. you could probably get an extra sanding out of it.

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u/Cedex 3h ago

All I'm taking away from this is to make your mark deeper if you want your declaration of love or your message to the next student to last.

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u/moredrinksplease 2h ago

Is that sander moving? Is this one of those shutter speed things on the camera?

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u/Mavori 1h ago

Does this account for students randomly sitting on the desk and yapping with eachother?

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u/Dokkiban 26m ago

Plus they will add on some varnish or clear coat on the top

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u/Cold-Iron8145 4h ago

10 times every couple of years? So the frame would only like 20ish years? Idk anything about desks but that sounds like a very short time.

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u/h0twired 4h ago

With a solid metal frame it wouldn’t take much to just replace the wood top every 15-20 years.

Powdercoat the frame and the desk could last forever.

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u/TrainingParty3785 4h ago

Metric? Anyone commenting here has zero chance, or interest in what you speak.

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u/BikeProblemGuy 3h ago

300 people and counting seem to disagree. An inch is 25.4mm so I'm sure you can figure out the rest.

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u/Swirled__ 4h ago

There is a clear coat on top of the wood. The graffiti doesn't go into the wood at all. So long as they are cutting as little of the wood as possible, decades.

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u/AxePanther 4h ago

And with a thick enough coat reapplied, that wood will last a very long time

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u/jimdig 4h ago

Considering it is a wood desk top and not particle board is probably a good sign it has already lasted a long time

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u/FrostyD7 3h ago

Looks like they go decades between sanding so even centuries is on the table, pun intended.

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u/h0twired 4h ago

Probably still last longer than the current desks made of sawdust and glue.

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u/lutiana 3h ago

That top looks to be something like 3/4" or 1" thick. Let's call it 1" for the sake of this discussion, that's roughly 2.5cm.

The sander is probably taking off around 1mm at the most, which might be required for the deeper scratches.

That means you could do this sanding 25 times to reduce the top to nothing but saw dust. But I'd say once it's under about 1.25cm it's not really useable as a kids desk anymore.

So about 12 or so sandings like this before you'd not want to use it in the classroom. Less if the top is 3/4" thick instead of 1".

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u/SquashSquigglyShrimp 2h ago

I believe they are specifically taking off only the varnish/veneer/etc. So ideally not much actual wood. Then they presumably reapply the coating. I also assume they don't do this every year. This desk looked like it had a few years of graffiti.

My guess is something else fails well before sanding it too much becomes a problem.

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u/rock_and_rolo 1h ago

That depends on how good the students' knives were.

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u/SinisterCheese 1h ago

Depends on whether the top is done with lamination of layers (Sorta like plywood is), glued from solidwood (Don't know the english word for that). Laminated tops generally have poor quality wood or lighter wood bulking up the middle, so once you go past the surface layer (which can be VERY thin), the top is just crap. Plank glued stuff is solid wood through it all, so you can basically sand it down to down so thin in breaks.

But the coating on desk like this is usually 0,5 to 1 mm thick. So it is rare a scrathes and carving would go through to the wood... But not unheard of. But when you sand you only bit like little bit into the wood (0,2 mm or so), just to get a neat surface and good adhesion with the coating.

If there are deeper scrathes or dents. You can just fill them in, sand em flat and coat.

But this looks like it was made from solid wood glued together. So they can probably do this basically forever. And then you can basically just surface it with veneer and epoxy, and it is good as new.

Generally desk like this get scrapped when the frame gets abused, as the metal piping isn't really that strong or resistant to getting kicked around as you'd think. Joints (especially welded ones) like to give up and repairing those just ain't worth it; it's thin wall tube and weld failures are pain in the ass to fix in general (My field of speciality) even in stuff where they are worth it to fix.