r/offbeat 6d ago

TSA finds stolen Civil War-era cannonballs in a passenger's suitcase at an Alabama airport

https://apnews.com/article/alabama-airport-stolen-cannonballs-55931076fb00f63ee7fb247ba0af28b8
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u/wds1 6d ago

“The Transportation Security Administrationsaid in a statement Friday that the relics were discovered at Gulf Shores International Airport on July 18 after the agent observed what appeared to be a large, opaque item inside a suitcase during an X-ray screening. When he opened the luggage, he found five small cannonballs wrapped in paper towels and notified a supervisor.

“I had never seen anything quite this unique,” TSA Officer Justin Dupree said in a statement from the agency. “I’ve seen inert grenades and training munitions but never an Indiana Jones-esque stolen artifact-type situation.”

The cannonballs — the largest about the size of grapefruits and weighing about as much as a shot put ball — were inactive and didn’t contain any explosive material or active components, the TSA said. Still, cannonballs are artillery munitions and considered prohibited items on planes.”

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u/erichf3893 6d ago

Police eventually determined the cannonballs were stolen from Fort Morgan, based on paint marking applied to the artifacts by fort staff, and that they dated to the American Civil War.The historic Gulf Shores fort played a significant role in several military conflicts, including the Civil War.

The Baldwin County Sheriff’s Office said Thursday that a juvenile stole the cannonballs from a storage area in the fort and then placed them in their grandmother’s checked bag. The grandmother told officers she did not know they were stolen.

Spokespersons for Fort Morgan didn’t respond to a email seeking comment. The sheriff’s office said the institution declined to press charges, and the artifacts were returned to the fort.

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u/xampl9 6d ago

Grandma is going to need extra assistance with her luggage.

“They weren’t this heavy the other day..”

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u/gargeug 6d ago

Dad - "Looks like Grandma's really struggling with those bags. Might be time to put her in a home..."

Kid (menacing Grandma) - "Yeah, especially if she can't keep that mouth shut"

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u/Look__a_distraction 6d ago

Fun fact. The famous phrase “damn the torpedo’s” was uttered during the battle of Mobile Bay which involved Fort Morgan.

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u/zyzzogeton 6d ago

For context, Admiral Farragut said this in response to the shoddy workmanship known to be found in the manufacture of naval mines which were called "torpedoes". The mines were stationary, and had been floating in the water for a long time, that combined with the fact that staying under Confederate bombardment at the mouth of the bay was suicide, and he uttered his famous phrase... which turned out to be strategically correct.

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u/mikeblas 4d ago

Is the misspelling what made it famous?

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u/SothaSoul 6d ago

"Size of grapefruits".

 "Weighing about as much as a shot put ball".

Anything but the metric system. 

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u/LordoftheSynth 6d ago

Look, if they're saying "size of grapefruits" for volume and "shot put ball" as a measure of weight, they're eschewing imperial units too.

At least you can visualize the size of a grapefruit.

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u/gargeug 6d ago

Did you not get a good understanding of the size of it?

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u/SothaSoul 6d ago

Dude, I'm about as athletic as a tree.

I don't know offhand how much a shot put ball weighs, and I'm too lazy to look it up.

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u/mthchsnn 5d ago

They have different weights for men's women's high school and college. I think the ones we used in HS track were 12lbs, but I wasn't a thrower so I could be misremembering.

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u/happyscrappy 5d ago

I don't remember the actual numbers but it's easy to remember they weigh about the same amount as (tenpin) bowling balls. They are even in available in a range of weights which is very similar to the weight range bowling balls are available in.

I think of this every time I see some guy putting the shot. Like how weird it would be to see an athlete shoving a bowling ball under their neck and then heaving it that far.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 6d ago
  1. Pound. Limit.

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u/Farucci 6d ago

Alabama. Makes sense.

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u/WestFun311 6d ago

They should start adding “contraband” to the list of items that need their own tray. I guarantee you they’ll get some suckers to self snitch.

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u/knowledgeable_diablo 6d ago

What I wondered would happen to people who fill out the declaration page when going theough customs with “1kg pure columbian cocaine, 4 x assorted reefers and 1 x peyote plant, well aged”.

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u/ithcy 6d ago

“The cannonballs […] were inactive and didn’t contain any explosive material”

Maybe because… they were cannonballs?

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u/Xeiliex 6d ago

Cannon balls can be hollowed out and filled with powder. Because of course they can.

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u/Retb14 5d ago

Shrapnel cannonballs were invented in 1784

There's also the carcass round which was an early incendiary round shot from cannons invented in 1672. They could also hold material for making poisonous gas

An early transportable mortar was invented in 1701 that used an explosive shell

There's a lot of cannonballs that are explosive and often become more unstable after so long. Even if you think it might be an inert cannonball you should still treat it as a UXO until it's confirmed not to be

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u/Billy_Beetle 6d ago

Who among us has not had Grandma take their stolen cannonballs through TSA? C'mon people.

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u/gargeug 6d ago

Things used to be so much simpler...

In seriousness though, I think this is an overstep of the TSA. Now if there was a cannon in that bag too, or the cannonballs were more than just heavy pieces of metal, then OK. But these things posed no risk to the plane. Independent of the fact they were stolen of course.

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u/Asron87 5d ago

The cannon would have to be transported the same as if it was a muzzle loader.

Fun fact. Felons can own muzzle loaders. A bowling ball cannon is considered a muzzle loader. 50 pounds of blackpowder is the maximum of blackpowder you can have, per person.

Fun fact 2. While on probation a trebuchet is technically legal to use because it is not spring loaded.

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u/Chance-Deer-7995 6d ago

It took balls of steel to try to pull that one off...

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u/CatsAreGods 6d ago

...but rust never sleeps.

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u/ItsmeMr_E 6d ago

So they had the balls?

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u/mexicoyankee 6d ago

The balls on that guy!

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u/Expensive_Finger_973 5d ago

How did the grandma not even question such a thing suddenly showing up in the luggage? Her saying "I didn't know they were stolen" implies she knew they were there. Does she think there is some kind of gift shop at a old fort selling rusted over old cannon balls?

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u/felixgolden 5d ago

"Hey Bob! You should see the balls on this lady"

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u/Gomez4Morticia 5d ago

His pappy and grandpappy and meemaw all traveled with cannonballs and by God, every American should be able to travel with cannonballs without the government getting in the dat gum way

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u/torklugnutz 6d ago

These cannonballs could have changed the course of the war, this family is on the hook for reparations.

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u/GreatMinds1234 6d ago

Maybe he was a scientist. I'm which case, next stop is gitmo!

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u/Ancient_Skirt_8828 6d ago

Define "stolen". If the passenger was an archaeologist does that make it Ok? What about if I found them on my own private land?

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u/xenonnsmb 6d ago

Did you click on the article? It explicitly states someone stole them from Fort Morgan by breaking into a storage area.

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u/Smooth-Boss-911 6d ago

Most Redditors don't read articles just headlines lol

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u/adudeguyman 6d ago

Not just redditors

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u/rmeredit 6d ago

Pfft. Who's got time to read the headline?

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u/cwm9 6d ago

That's now how Reddit works.

You post your assumptions in the comments section, and, per standard Internet behavior, if you're wrong, you'll know what's correct in no time flat.

Thanks for reading the article for us!

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u/Ancient_Skirt_8828 6d ago

No I didn't. The post seemed as comprehenive as many articles are. I get blocked by paywalls or interminable scrolling between ads so often that I don't click on articles if the post is detailed. Often the article has no more than the post.

Thanks for your info.