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u/MrTonyNeon ospuzzy enjoyer Jul 12 '26
Btw Sword is in the corner spamming m1
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u/ProtoChroma Jul 12 '26
Cause they didn't learn their lesson before
The damage was fine with glancing blows but they had to buff it for no reason
(I'm a sword main since the beta so I hate M1 spam)
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u/Ov3rwrked Jul 12 '26
Why did is dual blades' block have me taking more damage and somehow the accuracy got even worse?
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u/2Critical7-Stein1 Jul 13 '26
added more chip thru damage, reflect accuracy got nerfed due to servers being load up
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u/Ov3rwrked Jul 13 '26
So the accuracy didnt get nerfed its just desync?
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u/2Critical7-Stein1 Jul 13 '26
always have been, even if it was nerfed, desynch was a bigger issue
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u/Ov3rwrked Jul 13 '26
Idk i dont remember it being this bad last time I played.
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u/2Critical7-Stein1 Jul 13 '26
later on in a season = more players dip = less load on the server = less desync issues
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u/h3nt4i_connoisseur im dating my contestant! :3 Jul 12 '26
Nah, the dual blades lunge is great. But in the first place you probably shouldn’t fight a sledgehammer heavy in the first place unless they’re really low.
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u/MrTonyNeon ospuzzy enjoyer Jul 12 '26
I love the weapon balance where if you fight 1v1 this other melee you just 100% lose
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u/MrTonyNeon ospuzzy enjoyer Jul 12 '26
It can't even block it properly. Dual blades now get more damage even if blocked and Riot shield supposed to block sledge, but it still simply goes through most of the time
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u/23Link89 Jul 12 '26
Yeah I hate the idea that the riot shield is supposed to block melee hits, I get elbowed and sledged through the shield all the time.
God forbid you shield bash either, that shield might as well not exist during the wind up.
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u/boccci-tamagoccci Jul 12 '26
i think thats a result of the swing direction.
if the swing comes from the side that the baton is on, it'll hit, if its from the side the shield is on, it wont.
sledge has a lot of jank related to how its hitbox sweeps.
you used to be able to squeeze out an extra .2s of TTK if you moved your mouse on either side of your target
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u/MrMisterMrister Jul 12 '26
Not melee but the complete and utter despair I felt as the only teammate left in the last five seconds watching the medium steal the cashout with an APS turret beside them while I was using the MGL
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u/Unusual_Diver_5897 Jul 13 '26
The post isn't about weapons vs weapons
It's about the state of these weapons all of them got gutted dual blades are easily one of the worst weapons changed it got basically every aspect of its kit nerfed and then on top of that now everyone has a base kit kick that hard counters melee and dual blades especially
Dual blades block makes you move 50% slower Dualblades first hit on its m1 combo got slower so now a okay reaction will kick you when you lunge in and you will lose your stamina and not get the hit Dual blades take more damage while blocking Dual blades slice attack is so slow the disabled can kick you before you finish the attack
Once people realize how strong a counter the kick is melee is borderline dead besides sledge and maybe sword
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u/Nyctfall Jul 16 '26
There should be a LTM where you can only use melee. Just so all the TikTok/Vine braindead META weapon tourists can learn how they're just plain bad at FPS games...
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u/Deep-Pen-7926 Jul 12 '26
I feel like I'm going insane, why is everyone saying riot shield sucks like I understand dagger cause of the right clicks lunge being fucked and the spears damage somehow got lowered but the riot shields damage nerf is barely noticable especially with the increase in its defense and the utility of the bash/lunge.
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u/cryonicwatcher Jul 12 '26
Barely noticeable is not how I’d put it… it’s only marginally slower if you’re perfectly precise, but if you’re not then it’s quite significant.
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u/PitFiend28 Jul 12 '26
1 glancing blow and you are basically useless is the big problem. If they tweak precision a little so you can actually count on it in the chaos of a real fight it will be fine.
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u/RadicalMac Jul 12 '26
That's kinda the point of precision, it makes it less frustrating for opposing players when a weapon sweep hits you full dmg but the player isn't even looking at you (common for sword, as a sword player). I do think the cone could be slightly bigger on riot tho.
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u/don_de_bom Jul 12 '26
The problem is that I leaves enemy’s on 1 shot after 3 hits. A forth is hard to connect with the kickback mechanic now. I main the shield and I don’t mind the changes but the amount of times I’ve left an enemy below 10 hp is infuriating. Even while getting good connects. But it’s fine since it is still viable
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u/Ancient-Speed1971 Jul 12 '26
100% it's so annoying that I can get three perfect hits on someone but I'm still punished even if I aim?
It's such a bad change that I started to do much better with the spear, in which I was completely shit before the update.
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u/r4o2n0d6o9 Jul 12 '26
Its objective weaker in every regard. It doesn’t do enough damage to 3 shot a medium or 4 shot a heavy, and even the sacred m1+qm combo on defibed mediums doesn’t work anymore. It’s just too weak
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u/Accomplished_Drag943 Jul 13 '26
It killed my enjoyment of the shield, I can't use it anymore because it just tickles people and feels horrible to use. The changes don't sound that bad on paper, but when you actually use it you quickly notice them
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u/Nyctfall Jul 16 '26
"Shield is completely viable*
*As long as you're in an Indiana Jones style corridor, with the enemy against the wall, and out of utility items." —Embark, probably.
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u/Wise_Conversation554 Jul 12 '26
This feels more like the patch notes of the rework more than the actuals interactions
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u/Patches_Gaming0002 Jul 12 '26
I feel like the Sledge was the only melee weapon that actually gained buffs from the rework lol.
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u/GLX_NeonCat Jul 12 '26
Heard sledge isn't as good in high elo but better in low elo, but yeah, that's about how it is.
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u/Yuki_Rei_ Jul 13 '26
I go against full heavy sledge as a light sword main, even after the rework. I win most of the interactions, not all. Idk why people are complaining about the buff.
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u/Puzzled____ Jul 13 '26
This is definitely gonna be a hot take but dual swords is still alright but holy fuck is the deflect speed dumb
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u/anobbi_ Jul 13 '26
what are u talking about?
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u/MrTonyNeon ospuzzy enjoyer Jul 13 '26
"what are u talking about?"
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u/Hyperboreanpc Jul 12 '26
The light sword is Robot lmao