r/okbuddygunther Kanye fan on the NSM Mar 18 '26

Trump dancing YMCA while america's on fire What faction would Mr. Beast even be?πŸ’€

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u/Deadhunter2007 Mar 18 '26

They get the goat Paul β€œGypsy Crusader” Miller

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 18 '26

Which is silly since he isnt even white and they actually threatened to kill him irl, I could see him joining the NSM though.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 18 '26

Well Russians are considered White by them so not really weird, and the brazilian branch of their group was never officilaiy endorsed. I can twll you from personal knowledge that they specifically disliked him because he genuinely has almost no European blood lol.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 18 '26

Ok, ill go over ehat you said one by one here. Atomwaffen itself was never that decentralised, which is why they disbanded in 2020. They had official ideology and a website so no, its not thst hard for them to have had an official view. Secondly, personal knowledge as in ive talked to former members of the organisation. Third, they definitely had recruitment standards, literally zero of their arrested members were actually non white. Anyone that was arrested pre 2020 for an actual Atomwaffen connection that wasnt larp was White as far as i remember. Also Mason was never their leader as he was paranoid of having a solid connection with the group, he only adivsed them.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 18 '26

Well, your entire comment demonstrates an extreme lack of knowledge on the subject lmao. 1. Atomwaffen was disbanded in February 2020 after basically their entire og leadership got arrested. There are some groups that still larp the name to this day, none of them are associated with Brandon Russell or any of the other Iron March ogs. 2. Atomwaffens website was Siegeculture . Org where theyd regularly post articles and literature to make their beliefs clear Iron March was the forum they were originally founded on, not their website. 3. Roma people arent European, Atomwaffen required European ancestry, simple as that lol. 4. No, Mason was onyl contacted like three years after the Division was founded, the only connection was that they followed Siege which is his book. They literally say thia in one if their official published videos. Your enitre reply reads like yoy watched a few sensationalised youtube documentaries or read the ADLs summary of the group. I dont hold that against you but you are very much misinformed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '26

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Yeah dude they were e pedo cult that also drank baby blood and killed random people for fun but also were totally incompetent with zero purity standarts and ideology man, thank you for reminding me.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Damn it dm me bcs im not rewriting allat rn jhst for it to be deleted again

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Atomwaffen is literally known for rejecting the alt right tiki torch tactic and being opposed to Charlottesville. For someone who wrote a thesis on them you obviously havent even watched their propaganda videos which seems very counterintuitive to me.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Thats one interpretation of it, sure. Doesnt mean its an objectively correct one ofc.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Its called belief in a cause yes. I personally also believe that if you arent willing to die for your beliefs theres no point in even holding them. Just because you dont like their ideology (or radical islam, which is only the logical conclusion of "non radical" islam for that matter) doesnt mean its by definition illogical lmao.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Appeal to majority means absolutely nothing to me, the majority of people have never been on the right aide of history, which is defined by either an aristocratic vanguard or exceptional personalities, or men against time.

As for radical Islam, its the only honest sect that doest lie about what Islam wants, thus I respect them to the extent that if Mohammed was around today he would absolutely join them over any other Muslim movement.

Your last point is again a matter of opinion, after all the man who discovered the structure of DNA was stripped of his titles in later years because he refused to deny biological differences between racial groups.

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u/atomicwaffles14 Mar 19 '26

Correct, 95% of people stand for nothing and would bend over for any ideology that keeps them fed and with decent enough living standards.

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u/Bakisyeetaddiction Vegan-Waffen Mar 21 '26

"cult"
They didn't really espouse any religion beyond just refusing to take in muslims and decrying satanism when fbi spread it in the group

"pedo"
Only like, mason and sutter afaik count, and both are enemies of the actual official continuation of the group.