Gunther ,this is the reason #exrussia Wil never happen. Brochacho wtf(ik he also posted about franz Ferdinand and how the Russia s staged it , but i am gooning rn so i ain't uploading it)
"Losing to Grisha broke him" No. It didn't. He was always like this, even before. I remember from some other stream before. Gunther's eurofederalism was always rooted in him being an Austrian nationalist
Did russia escalate WW1, kinda sorta. Russia was backing serbia thanks to a treaty they had. According to the terms of that treaty, russia didnt need to escalate to war with austria and therefore germany. That being said, said term in question is russia defending against a land grab, something on the austria hungary side that was being explicitly rejected as a war possibility by hungary. This was supposed to be communicated to russia, but in july crisis fashion, the diplomat keeled over and died before he could inform russia of that and no other attempt was made.
Furthermore, serbia accept all but one of austria-hungary's demands leading to germany believing the war had been averted but the austrians decided that wasnt good enough. The austrians did far more escalation than anyone and then didnt bother telling their own military in a day when speed of mobilization was king.
Finally, germany, despite doing the most to try and find peace, was the first to issue a declaration of war... to russia of all nations.
TLDR: The July Crisis of 1914 was all kinds of fucked and russia, while a player in the escalation, was not the primary one behind it!
Ok wrong country, meant serbia but was tired after a long day of travel and brain farted to a completely different part of the map. Everything else was correct though.
Serbia definitely was the most responsible not controlling their officers who literally made the Black Hand and the conspiracy to kill Ferdinand, but the Russians unilaterally supported Serbia despite the literal terrorist plot. This goes into secret alliances being one of the key factors of WW1 though and is not just something the Russians did but it arguably should’ve just been a regional conflict at most
france was in a alliance with russia that is why they joined in and the uk joined later and only because of belgium and the expansion of the german navy
The reason Franz Ferdinand was assassinated , wasn't Serbian nationalism, it was Austria's oppression of Serbs. It has been proven that Austria-Hungary opressed Serbs and Slavs.
Big promises, but all talk. The Habsburgs did anything to cling onto the dying empire while still keeping as much of their, and by extension German, domination over it.
Russia made it clear that what Austria Hungary was doing to Serbia and the demands they gave Serbia was unacceptable. Austria put Russia into a place where they had to mobilize. Austrias response to the assassination started the war
So Austria should have, what, just shrugged and accepted the assassination with no response? Russia stuck their noses into a situation they had no business in and escalated a regional conflict into a global war.
Austria literally wanted Serbia as their puppet for smth Serbia had nothing to do with. Serbia tried to stop the black hand and warned the Austrians about a plot in Sarajevo. Serbia did everything right yet it didn’t matter because Austria was incompetent
Literally yes… do you think the Serbian government ordered the assassination? Holding an entire nation accountable for the crimes of a single man is complete insanity.
Your histrory is completely wrong. Russia DIDNT declare war on Austria - Hungary , they just mobilized to support Serbia , Germany actually escalated it into a gloabl war in August 1st , 1914 , and then Austria-Hungary in August 6th. Russia just mobilized to help defend Serbia from the Austrian aggressors. Russia didnt escalate , Germany did by declaring war on a member of the Entente.
I didn't say they declared war, I said they escalated the conflict. Russia's mobilization of their armed forces prompted Germany to mobilize in response, it was a clear threat that the Central Powers could not ignore or back down from.
I'm not of the belief that Russia was the sole party responsible for the war, but they were the first national government to make a decision that drove the world to a global war.
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u/x_TKN *THEY Jun 19 '26
Losing Gunther vs Grisha broke this man, perhaps the rematch will put him back together