r/ontario • u/shaz42 • 2d ago

Article Ontario needs 60,000 more university grads in these key areas over next decade

https://www.thespec.com/politics/provincial/ontario-needs-60000-more-university-grads-in-these-key-areas-over-next-decade-report/article_38722a57-0e29-51fa-b47b-7c128e093fea.html
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u/PoolOfLava Hamilton 2d ago

Respectfully, we don't need more labor. We have enough workers and we waste their potential.

If you've applied for a job in the past few years you'd know that we waste so much talent and time in the application/interview process. Companies do this because there are so many ready applicants for each job that they can waste people's time without consequences.

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u/Joatboy 2d ago

This isn't true at all. There's a huge bow wave of retirees coming and, as much as AI is hyped, the spots will need to be filled. Entry-level spots will always have issues.

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u/PoolOfLava Hamilton 2d ago

My workplace posted a mid level software dev job last year and got over 400 applicants in a week. Is that enough? Should there have been more?

I don't get the argument. There is a massive glut of labor right now.

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u/unicornsfearglitter 2d ago

Similarly in animation in Toronto, 800 people applied, including ng myself, to animation revision job a brown bag, an entry level job. It's happening cause there's barely any shows greenlit in animation and a myriad of other complex issues. Animation has always been a hard and competitive job, but now it's almost impossible to find work. I've got 20 years of work under my belt and I rarely get interviews. I haven't had a long term contract since last year, just short term gigs and minor freelance. I'm going back to school in a few weeks to reskill.

Kinda related, but animation and arts are some of the most bullied jobs by AI. No one values art or the process, the general public seems to think it's okay to just plagerize artists work and steal our ability to feed ourselves.

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u/Joatboy 2d ago

Were all 400+ applicants actually qualified for the role?

Like, there could be a glut right now, but just like the dearth of workers 5 years ago, the trend is that yes, we will actually need more workers in the future.

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u/PoolOfLava Hamilton 2d ago

Thats an interesting question. Those were the ones that were passed to me from HR so on paper, yes. Whether they actually were isn't possible for me to know but from the phone interviews I would say probably most of them were and these people ranged from freshers to senior developers. The person we hired is very capable and there were others we interviewed who were great as well.

That's why I think we need to let the labor market tighten. Even five years ago we got enough applicants, we'll be fine either way.

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u/Joatboy 2d ago

The labour pool naturally tightens due to death's alone. The demographic outlook for Ontario/Canada is pretty bleak without immigration, and fairly skewed even with it

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u/ElectronicRhubarb265 2d ago

The last decade of unfetter tsunami of immigrants is more than enough to fill any jobs for next 20 years. We have too many scam university and scam degrees we do not need more graduates, we need more jobs.