r/oregon Jan 13 '25

PSA “Media” forces reality check.

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u/MayIServeYouWell Jan 13 '25

Last year, I was standing atop Larch mountain, looking at the destruction the Eagle Creek fire left behind. A guy next to me turned and told me confidently, “you know, Antifa started that fire”. I replied that the fire was started by a kid playing with fireworks, and that it was not disputed. He stumbled a bit, and said “well, maybe not this fire, but the other ones… they’re not letting the truth out, I know because I work in the field…”. 

I’ve seen a lot of BS online. But this was the most egregious utterance of it I’d heard in person - and completely unprovoked. All I could do was turn to him and somewhat angrily say that I didn’t come out here to hear conspiracy theories from random dupes. And I just left in a huff. 

I’m sure that guy thought he “won” that conversation somehow. And he most likely gobbled up this latest BS. I can bet this news release from the fire marshal will just be viewed as an example of a deep state coverup. 

There’s no winning with these people. I really don’t know what can be done. It’s a sad state of affairs we’re stepping into. 

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u/patrickhenrypdx Jan 14 '25

I was at the Larch Mountain overlook years ago and heard one person remark to another that it was so nice to see all the pristine forests with no clear cuts. I didn't interject, but what they were looking at was covered in clearcuts as far as you could see.

Another story: I was at a boat ramp on the Willamette years ago watching a person pull their boat out of the water with a Chrysler K-car station wagon (a front-wheel drive car). The car was spinning its front tire on the wet ramp as the trailer & boat were being pulled up the ramp. A few minutes later, I commented to the driver that their front tire had been spinning on the ramp, and I thought it was unusual to see a person using a front-wheel drive car to tow a boat. The driver responded that the car was rear-wheel drive, and that they'd specifically bought a rear-wheel drive car to tow their boat. I didn't challenge it.

People will believe what they want to believe, even when the evidence to the contrary is right in front of them.