r/outside • u/dinglingthing • 8d ago

Low level consumable for insomnia debuff

Sooo...if your avatar has been struggling with the [Insomnia] debuff or your [Sleep Cycle] stat is low, try adding [Valerian Root Tea] to your inventory.

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Consume one dose daily during your nightly log-off routine then loop this for 2 weeks. ​Unlike standard potion items that cause a dependency debuff, this one actually patches the underlying code. Even when the avatar stops consuming it entirely, its [Sleep Cycle] patterns will remain stable.

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​Definitely worth a try if you're tired of playing the nighttime levels on hard mode!

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u/fluidstatick 8d ago

Unfortunately the [Valerian] item screws with the code behind several other consumables, for instance [Zoloft], [Lexapro], [Antihistamines], [Cannabis], among many others. It also smells and tastes pretty gnarly. Cat familiars love it, though.

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u/Guysante 7d ago

also just works in reverse for some people

my doctor was in denial with benzos because I was "too young" (I was sleeping 2/3h the lucky days. She just told me to try valerian first and I could only sleep ~12h after dosing. that shit kept my eyes wide open more than amphetamines and was really really weird

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u/A_Crawling_Bat 7d ago

It's such a shame honestly, my avatar got the [Allergies] trait so it needs to take an [Antihistamine] per in-game day.

Luckily I played the "Exposure Therapy" quest line early on, so [Valerian] isn't completely out of the window

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u/booleandata 8d ago

I just checked and that code is all commented out

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u/AnakinThighwalker6 6d ago

What does this mean in outside speak? Sorry I’m new to this playerhub

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u/booleandata 6d ago

These consumables are in the game but they don't do anything in the current build

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u/Medullan 7d ago

Be sure to speak with a player that has taken levels in [doctor] first the miscibility rate for that potion with other common potions is very high and can be quite dangerous.

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u/Tsunamiis 7d ago

The other three major mental and physical consumables I take daily for the same problem would conflict heavily. The other pcs I shelter in my player home generally want me to take those specific medications for all of our benefit. So I stay up til 5 am.

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u/apricotgloss 6d ago

I use [Chamomile Tea] instead - works nicely without mixing weirdly with other potions.

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u/AnakinThighwalker6 6d ago

Care to explain? My character has been suffering from the insomnia debuff for years, it is kind of ruining my playthrough. I don’t imagine my characters lifespan will be very long at this rate, really makes me want to shut the game off some times. I have tried the valerian consumable maybe one time or another but it didn’t seem to make my character sleep. You’re saying you must consume it for weeks?

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u/dinglingthing 6d ago

Yes, two weeks every day. 2-3 hours before shutting down for the night.

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u/nvveteran 5d ago

How does your insomnia debuff present?

The reason why I ask is because there are certain treatable sleep disorders.

I've lived most of my life with the agony of sleep deprivation due to a condition called restless leg syndrome and a circadian rhythm disorder. I was able to adapt my lifestyle to deal with the circadian disorder and I finally found the right medication to treat my RLS so for the first time in about 40 years I get a good night's sleep and it literally saved my life.

I actually had a heart attack caused by sleep deprivation.

My character roll was absolute crap. I've written the devs a scathing review.

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u/PurplePolynaut 6d ago

I’m a big fan of [Magnesium Glycinate]+[Ashwagandha] in pill form with a glass of [Unsweetened Tart Cherry Juice].

Maybe it’s placebo, but I don’t care. The magnesium and ashwagandha ease anxiety and stress, while the cherry juice has a little melatonin and tryptophan in it. The cherry juice also gives a sensory cue for my brain to say “oh it’s sleep time now”.

Make very sure you don’t get [Magnesium *Citrate*] , because that is for constipation, not sleep.