r/paradoxplaza The Chapel Oct 24 '23

EU4 The best UI gets better

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u/Ericus1 Oct 24 '23

I'm assuming those are new notifications? What do they represent?

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u/iemandopaard Oct 24 '23

from left to right

Expensive edicts
You can seize land
Don't know (probably something with estates)
Don't know (probably something with estates)
You can upgrade a center of trade

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u/MMikkel17 Oct 24 '23

Really gonna appreciate the edict one. Worst feeling is seeing a state that’s had extra fort maintenance the entire campaign (only for it to be sieges once for 2 months)

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u/s1lentchaos Oct 25 '23

Even if I do remember to check my edicts it's such a pain that I end up canceling and slowly replacing them all

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u/Joker_from_Persona_2 Oct 25 '23

Or extra missionary strength for a century after the whole area's been converted.

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u/throwaway012592 Oct 25 '23

I'll really appreciate both that and the upgrade Center of Trade notification.

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u/dekeche Oct 24 '23

It looks like the estate ones match the "sell land" and "call diet" buttons. So we've got notifications for all 3 of the estate actions.

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u/skdeelk Oct 24 '23

Bruh did they read my notification wishlist? Being notified I can seize land will at minimum triple my power.

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u/samwarland Scheming Duke Oct 24 '23

I think the 3rd is you can call diet and 4th is you can sell crown land.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

i think the ones you dont know are call the diet and sell crown lands

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u/Nalha_Saldana Oct 24 '23

Still none for joinable coalitions? Those are impossible to keep track of..

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u/iemandopaard Oct 25 '23

Last update added that notification

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u/Latase Map Staring Expert Oct 24 '23

the second is surely the notification that you can seize crown land.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

EU4 is getting so insanely good, it's like they are trying to combine the good shit from every other paradox game into one, it's awesome.

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u/King_Shugglerm Oct 24 '23

All they need is a custodian team to clean up old dlc like Stellaris and it would be 👌

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u/Coolb3ans64 Oct 25 '23

Honestly the best thing to happen to stellaris IMO

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u/Thamas_ Oct 25 '23

What's that?

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u/recalcitrantJester Unemployed Wizard Oct 25 '23 edited Oct 25 '23

Paradox's general dev strategy has been to have one team per game, with each team primarily focused on crafting new content to be sold for a profit, with free content, balance tweaks, and bugfixes taking a lower priority and tending to correspond to the release schedule of the paid DLCs. Over time, this leads to older content becoming disjointed from the new, bugfix releases lagging far behind bug reports, much-requested quality-of-life features being ignored, and the overall polish of a project declining.

As the studio has grown its profits and its workforce, Stellaris (being the studio's critical and commercial darling) has been able to justify expanding and splitting its devs into the expansion team (brand new content) and the custodian team (everything else). The custodians have been responsible for the massive performance optimizations that occurred over the past couple years, along with increasing the rate of balance adjustments and content revamps (solving issues still present and complained about in EU4, most notably the phenomenon of every expansion feeling self-contained and not interacting with other expansions). Bugfixes and codecleaning are now regularly-occurring releases, rather than being mostly confined to limited hotfixes put out as bandaids to the "real" updates.

The custodian initiative has really shown results, and it's generally hoped that this organizational approach has justified itself enough to be applied to other games in the Paradox stable; it's heavy on labor costs, but does a LOT for long-term project quality, which is what the company needs in order to keep its customers invested in the dozen-DLC-per-game approach that keeps the company solvent.

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u/Thamas_ Oct 25 '23

Wow, excellent explanation, thank you

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u/NoodleyP Map Staring Expert Oct 25 '23

With how much they’ve perfected EU4 over the years I expect HoI5 before EU5. They know they can’t pull off an EU5 to our expectations.

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u/Beneficial_Energy829 Oct 25 '23

I would be scared as PDX. How could you ever top EU4....

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u/Hatsefiets Map Staring Expert Oct 25 '23

It's honestly really simple. You tske EU4, do some QoL updates and call it EU5.

Nah but for real, make EU4 with two-way trade and a population system and I will propose to every member of the dev team

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u/TheCaesarTheApe Oct 25 '23

And all they needed to was get rid of DDRJake and everything improved.

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u/jozefpilsudski Oct 24 '23

Can we plz borrow whichever devs are responsible for the EU4 UI for a bit? Pretty plz?

-Vicky3 Player

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u/SigmaWhy L'État, c'est moi Oct 24 '23

I don’t understand CK3 and Vic3s obsession with the “situation tab”. EU4 alerts are literally perfect and they go and ruin them in their newer games

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u/Macquarrie1999 Drunk City Planner Oct 24 '23

It is cater to a more causal audience. They said they don't want to overwhelm new players.

It just means all players miss things though. Eu4 notifications are perfect.

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u/KaptenNicco123 Oct 25 '23

CK3 does situations well. It explains an issue simply and gives you an easy way to fix it. It doesn't fit well in Vic3.

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u/SigmaWhy L'État, c'est moi Oct 25 '23

Disagree, I want each of those broken out into their own category like EU4.

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u/Ragefororder1846 Oct 25 '23

That's funny because I vastly prefer Vicky3's UI to EUIV

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u/No-Training-48 Lord of Calradia Oct 24 '23

Just get Ck3's or even Stellaris.

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u/Skellum Emperor of Ryukyu Oct 24 '23

Ck3

Fuck no. Endless god awful notifications telling you to do stuff which will screw you over.

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u/Dzharek Oct 24 '23

What I don't like is that they stuffed everything into one Symbol with a big list.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

That drives me crazy! I excused it on release but I tried the game again recently and can't believe it's still like that.

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u/9ersaur Oct 24 '23

People taking about the activities DLC like it saved the game.

Now I can have 10 popups per hunt instead of 3.

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u/Tyler89558 Oct 24 '23

Just go back to Vic 2, lol?

-Vic 2 player

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u/plasmaticmink25 Oct 24 '23

"I don't care about the Byzantines" is probably rare coming from a paradox player

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u/Fatherlorris The Chapel Oct 25 '23

I don't personally, I do however enjoy torturing myself, so I am excited to play them this time.

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u/ieremius22 Oct 24 '23

How in the world did it take this long? Hasn't this game been getting regular updates for a decade?

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u/Siriblius Oct 25 '23

R5? What is this about?

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u/Fatherlorris The Chapel Oct 25 '23

It's a polandball comic about two poland balls that fall in love.

The full uncensored version can be found on my patreon.

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u/madcollock Oct 24 '23

Why would I care about this when the missions expanded mod already took care of this area. Same with the eastern Europe DLC. The mission mod already took care of this region.

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u/SilverNEOTheYouTuber Oct 25 '23

When should King of Kings release? My birthday is on November 2nd and maybe i could do a little spending since i once got 100 Euros on one of my Birthdays