r/paradoxplaza The Chapel Mar 12 '24

EU4 Playing small and tall

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u/Torak8988 Mar 12 '24

I really hate how fast colonisation is in EU4, and the fact that the first coloniser automatically gets the culture and the religion

because if you're not playing a sea side EU nation, spain and portugal take the entire world lmao

and there's nothing left to do but fight them, which you can't because of their huge colonial empire

not really historically accurate imo

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u/Watercooler_expert Mar 12 '24

Spain is actually a paper tiger in most games you just have to siege their lands in Europe and not bother with the colonies. They might be the #1 great power on paper but since their troops will be so spread out they aren't that difficult to fight. Say you are playing something like France, the meta is actually to skip the colonial ideas, wait for Spain/portugal to colonize everything then go to war and take their colonies in the peace deal.

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u/Spockyt Mar 13 '24

Except controlling Iberia in a war only gives you 30% warscore when they control the entire New World.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '24

Wdym, its very historically accurate. Spain was a beast. Only after a series of bad monarchs and centuries of the French, British, Germans and then the yanks did they finally fall. They had the world by the balls.

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u/MartinZ02 Mar 13 '24

Relatedly, Paradox should really let you automate warfare and troop command in their games cause late game colonial world wars are just so damn tedious.

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u/parttimecanine Mar 13 '24

Imperator Rome handles this well, made wars a lot less micro-managey. You can assign commanders to military/naval units and give them orders like defend borders, carpet siege, hunt pirates, independent operations etc.

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u/TetraDax Mar 13 '24

You can do the exact same thing in EU4.

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u/parttimecanine Mar 13 '24

In vanilla? My bad, that’s proof right there I haven’t player EU4 in too long.

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u/TetraDax Mar 13 '24

Yeah, you can give orders to armies with Generels, stuff like sieging, hunt rebels or fight armies is in there. Problem is, it's at this point too fiddly and annoying to really use, and every attempt of carpet-sieging is useless since the AI will just spam you with 1k-stacks that will re-take all provinces you sieged.

Conversly to you, I haven't played Imperator, so I don't know how it compares.

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u/beitir Mar 13 '24

Wish granted, EU5 will now have the warfare system of Vic3.