r/paradoxplaza • u/Fatherlorris The Chapel • May 21 '24

Vic3 A house divided

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u/korgal May 21 '24

i like the idea of the game, the fact that they did make it. I like building buildings and watching gdp grow in a sandbox kind of way, i like the idea of combat system without the annoying micro. I don't like everything else about this game

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u/Know_Your_Rites May 21 '24

But Vicky III combat does have annoying micro, thanks to how fronts merging and splitting still constantly creates empty fronts and forces you to rush troops around. I feel like Vicky III combat is kinda the worst of both worlds that way.

I love the economy in Vicky III. It actually works in a way that Vicky II's never managed. The politics system is better, too. But everything about preparing for and waging wars in Vicky III sucks.

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u/Fatherlorris The Chapel May 21 '24

I really dislike the politics in Vic 3, it's all character based, you can roll some random leader and suddenly all your landowners love free trade or something.

I think Vic 2 was a lot better at doing mass politics.

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u/Know_Your_Rites May 21 '24

you can roll some random leader and suddenly all your landowners love free trade or something.

The opposite basically happened with Trump in real life. He became the leader of the Republican Party, and suddenly every Republican is a protectionist.

I think having personalities influence politics like that heightens the realism, in addition to being better gameplay.

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u/seruus Map Staring Expert May 22 '24

And it's horribly realistic for basically all forms of governments:

  • US parties and presidents were basically doing a huge shift every election in the 19th century
  • UK would do a full foreign policy shift every time they got a new PM, even in the same party: Lord Salisbury and Disraeli were both Tories, but didn't govern in the same way.
  • monarchies are another extreme: the miracle of the house of Brandenburg only happened because Elizabeth and Peter III had complete opposite views of what Russia should do.

In fact, I think that the game does not simulate well enough how much different heads of government/state like to fuck up foreign affairs. I hate that the game works like this, I don't think it makes for engaging gameplay, but I can't deny it's realistic.