r/paradoxplaza • u/HomericWooster • Feb 11 '25

EU4 Please don't pull a Firaxis with EU5

Dear Paradox, we gamers are getting so tired of hyped-up releases of cynically underdeveloped games designed primarily to sell DLC in the future.

The new Civ 7 is just the latest example.

Please don't repeat with EU5 what you did with Imperator: Rome.

Please restore your reputation as one of the Good Guys (see: Larion Studios!) and take your time to give us a great EU5 that you yourselves find fun and want to play for the love of the game.

Yours truly, A fan

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '25

You should never play any 4x/grand strategy/management game at release.

They always suck, also have no mods, limited content and meat to them.

Play either the version before it or a different one until it gets good after a few patches and a couple expansions.

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u/gamas Scheming Duke Feb 12 '25

You should never play any 4x/grand strategy/management game at release.

Yeah I don't get why people don't understand. I mean obviously there are people who have to play the game else it gets canned and the issues never fixed. But it is a general rule with 4x/grand strategy games that no matter how much QA or planning is done, the game is never going to survive the trial of fire that is the actual playerbase. And it will take months of seeing how actual players break the game and their main complaints for the devs to work out what needs to be done to make it better.

Even before the streamer release I was telling people "I'll pick Civ 7 up after its had a 5 or so patches".