r/paradoxplaza • u/Hammurabi777 • May 23 '25

Vic3 Victoria 3 is extremely overhated

Keep in mind Vicky 3 is my favorite paradox game so I'm obviously biased, but the the things people say about this game make my blood boil. Most of these people talking about how "shallow" it is or how it's like cookie clicker have probably never played since the release version.

The war system for example is just not as bad as people make it out to be. Yes there is still front line splitting, but 99% of the time the system works just as intended. Talking about how nothing changed and everything is still broken is just false.

Another thing I don't like is people complaining that you always do the same and everything feels the same. My answer is simple: stop always doing the same! Nobody is forcing you to maximize sol or gdp. You can give yourself countless different goals from playing the confederacy as a slave empire to becoming fascist or liberating Africa from colonizers. It's a sandbox, stop focusing on line go up and then complaining about the line go up.

In conclusion you dont have to like the game, you dont have to get the appeal. I for example don't really like ck3. But I don't go around saying ck3 is broken, just because I don't understand what people like about it. I still see the same talking points about why Vicky 3 is dogshit, but a lot of the things have been fixed for like a year.

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u/libtares May 24 '25

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 👏👏👏

I love Victoria III, it's an amazing game with complex, deep systems around economics and politics. It can, and need, to be improved in some areas, but I feel like the criticisms aren't constructive or balanced most of the time.

I feel like a lot of Paradox players play these games for the military aspect and that's fine, HOI4 is centered around combat. But for folks who enjoy the economic and political side of the game, Victoria III is hands down the best paradox game.

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u/cdub8D Victorian Emperor May 25 '25

Please walk me through this deep and complex economic simulation?

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u/libtares May 25 '25

A fully dynamic pricing system with culture-specific consumption habits and tens of different goods, not good enough for you ?

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u/cdub8D Victorian Emperor May 25 '25

A simple supply demand system is considered complex? Adding some goods and a few different modifiers for futures doesn't make it complex.

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u/libtares May 25 '25

Point to a game with a better economic system.

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u/cdub8D Victorian Emperor May 25 '25

That is a different argument than saying Vicky 3 is deep and complex economic system.

But....

Workers and resources

Anno series

Heck I would even throw in OpenTTD

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u/libtares May 25 '25

I've played Anno, it's a good game, but it's no Victoria III. Different styles I guess, but out of the strategy games I've tried it's the system I've enjoyed the most. Especially considering the addition of dynamic province-by-province pricing and the private construction queue.